I am Adam Lanzas mother...
 

good read..

http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

I read that over breakfast this morning. Excellent read, and I've known a few kids like this. Messed up situations, but what can a parent do?

not take them to the gun range maybe?

Quite a thought provoking read, thanks for posting.

It's easy to point at American gun culture and laws as the reason for the high gun death rate in the US vs other countries with similar levels of gun ownership e.g. Switzerland. However maybe a more compelling reason is the enormous clusterfuck fail that is the American public health system.

Anyone ever see We Need to Talk About Kevin?



Must be scary to think you gave birth to the thing that could take your life.

Very good article - and unfortunately I'm in the position of knowing someone who's in a similiar situation with their young son. In fact, the topic came up during a dinner party just last night we attended with a few friends and co-workers. Everyone voiced their concerns with the child...and the situation. My wife and I were relieved to realize we weren't the only ones with concerns...everyone was unanimous about what was going on.

But we had no solutions...and really nothing constructive to offer in the way of advice. My wife and I talked about it further during the drive home - and the conversation ended with, "One of these days we're going to see that kid in the headlines."

Start by not having guns in the home:2 cents:

How is this any of your business besides you being a busy body!
If you lived in the United States your post would matter.
Gotta love these fucking foreigners!

That would be an obvious start.

Poor woman. A lot of families are suffering with loved ones with mental issues like this. It's ultimately the cause of all these mass murder sprees.

If your kid's a nutcase maybe you shouldn't keep a semi-automatic weapon in the house. Derrrrrrp.

Is mental illness exclusive to the United States?

How does it matter where MaDalton resides?

It was an insightful and thought-provoking link - unlike your drivel post.

wow, that was hard core :(

What a colossally stupid, ignorant fucking comment. :321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY:321GFY

Our society punishes crimes rather than assisting people in need because we are more concerned that someone might get 'more than they deserve' than we are that someone in need will be unable to get help. It's shameful.

I have no idea how people cope with stuff like that.

That, and the fact that more inmates = more profit$ for the private prison industry :disgust

:thumbsup

I don't know what's up with GFY lately - but there's a greater abundance of retarded assholes coming out of the woodwork lately than usual.

Fake nicks, trolls, hate-mongers...it's epidemic.

Don't blame the health care system, it is naive to do that if you know anything about the the personality disorders/behaviours we call for lack of anything better 'mental illness'. This mother is a working journalist with healthcare insurance. The system isn't failing her or her son. Medical science is - read the different disorders she mentions, those aren't diseases the same way diabetes or cancer are diseases. They are a group of symptoms/behaviours that the medical profession assigns a name to. Medical science has barely scratched the surface in its understanding of the brain/mind. According to this mother her son's behaviour could fit in with any number of these made up disorders/diseases. Doctors are arrogant people, they won't admit to the parent or to the public at large 'the kid's disturbed, something isn't right but the hell if I know what's really wrong with him'. At this point in time all they have is behavioral therapy and drug therapy, with the big pharmaceutical companies pushing their latest psychiatric wonder drugs on doctors and parents - even though most of them don't work, and in some cases make things worse. People want to believe that there is a treatment that works for kids like this, but it just isn't so. We accept sadly that many cancers are untreatable, in the end they kill our loved ones and us ourselves. We refuse to accept it with mental illness, especially with young people, we must blame everything else, their parents, society and culture, our enviroment, our foods and none of them may really be to blame in many if not most of these cases.

What to do with people like this? Exactly what is being done for this mother's son, you try - the drugs, the talk/behavioral therapy, the hospitalizations, the special programs at schools. And it's not working. Because most likely it can't work. If you really don't know what the problem is the chances of solving the problem aren't very great. We read about 'chemical imbalances', psychiatrists really don't know shit at this point about those, it's a vague term they throw around that makes us and them feel better about the situation and the drug companies love. This mother's son could be the next Adam Lanza and we can do nothing about it. We can't lock him away in a hospital for the rest of his life. For every Adam Lanza who goes on a killing spree there are 100,000 others like him who won't, they'll just spend their lives in and out of treatment that doesn't work, terrifying their families.

A mother's cry for help, what if there really is no help?

[QUOTE=CT-Content;19373887]How is this any of your business besides you being a busy body!
If you lived in the United States your post would matter.
Gotta love these fucking foreigners![/

I didn't get the memo that we were now geo-blocking thread content. Now, what about a foreigner living in the US, can they comment? Or how about a US citizen living abroad, can they chime in? Or can I, from the Bronx, tell you to go fuck yourself?

Which native tribe do you belong to?

They could stop being pussies and start parenting properly.

This woman tells us that her kid threatens her often and that he called her a bitch while taking him to school. Her response was to ground him from video games for the rest of the day. Since he was supposed to be at school and then come home that really only grounds him that evening. Big fucking deal. That kind of bullshit punishment does not fit the crime. At that point the kid should have lost his electronics for good plus additional punishment.

The kid is mentally ill and has violent tendencies. Shouldn't he be focusing on reality instead of playing video games? Parents need to start taking more personal responsibility with how they raise their children. If your kid has mental issues, he's not a regular kid, adjust accordingly.

Every generation it gets worse. Idiocracy.

Fucking moron

As anti-gun, anti-violence as I am - I must admit I am very glad that woman is dead.

My theory is that she emasculated him so much, that she didn't think he was capable of shooting anything.

There was a time when mental defectives like that were locked away and, as cruel as that might sound . . . it was for the best.

How many of these mass murders do we hear about happening fifty years ago, and before?
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People with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome are clueless. They need help.

Yeah, in Europe and early US people were chained to trees and let the elements take care of it. It was practiced in Morocco until....now. In the countryside of course. In the cities people get injections.
This guy was chained to a tree for awhile but managed to escape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Chester

If you are interested in accuracy, I believe the worst school killing in America was in the 1920's.

The woman who wrote that article is a horror show. She syndicated that article to high traffic sites all over the internet, along with a PHOTO OF HER SON sent to most. Changing his name to Michael, when her name is on the byline, and his photo is alongside the article is an invasion of her child's privacy.

Her 13-year-old is melodramatic and she makes an emergency room visit out of it and she wonders why he is getting worse. That woman is right. She does need help. Labeling theory, anyone?

When a parent overreacts to that kind of thing, they make it real and they make it worse. She took him out of a gifted program and put him in an unpleasant school. She responded to whining about video games by taking him to an adult institution (when she could easily have dropped him off at a behavioral school he was already enrolled in) where they had already prescribed him inappropriate (for a child) adult medication.

He acts out once -- does not actually stab anyone -- and she trains his siblings to be frightened of him and makes a huge show of gathering up and carrying all the sharp things in the house around with her. Children model on their parents and, gee, I wonder where he learned to be overly dramatic.

Then, to demonstrate that, yes, she definitely has a touch of Munchausen's, she writes an article for the Huffington Post and Gawker and anyone else who wants a few views more than they respect a child's privacy, so the whole world can give her sympathy for how difficult her child is.

Wow...just wow.

I read that article and felt sympathy for this poor woman pouring out of me. Then I read what you wrote and the logic of it is unavoidable. Well written and well thought out :thumbsup

this is your theory about this woman? your theory is very plausible but it's also possible she's a writer and this tragedy spurred her to write about her own nightmare with a mentally disturbed kid.

how do you know she sent a photo of the boy to most? did you see the photo?

if there is more people with mental illness these days, why is it happening? because women are having children later in life which increases the chances of passing on genetic defects? something else?

Nice to see you really spent some time with the article and grasped the point.

No, it is not logic it is simply a self righteous judgement call from an outsider Amelia who has a very limited understanding of the situation and has never walked in the other ladies shoes.

All the talk here about mental health and how something needs to be done about it and then you have someone write about their experience with her own son who is unpredictable, violent and getting bigger and beyond her control. She is desperate, scared of her kid and asks for help and describes her situation and the lack of help available to her in the current system.

Of course Amelia is a perfect parent and knows its not the mental health of the child but the parenting skills of the mother in dealing with a special needs child who threatens to kill her. Some kids are just fucking crazy and some otherwise good parents need help rather than judgement, some kids even kill and much worse. For example there was some shooting last friday I heard about...

Thank you. I try.

1. Call me a stupid bitch and I slap the shit out of the kid and then take the electronics away.

2. Living with having to have an escape plan for my other 2 kids?? WTF! If I was that worried about my other 2 the mental kid would have been gone long ago.

I know this woman loves her kid just as I love min. But put my others in jeopardy like that? Thats fucked.

Yes, I did see the photo of her son. She has it on her original blog and big venues (every one I've seen, except Gawker who had more taste) have re-published the image. As facial recognition software becomes more effective and more prevalent on sites from Facebook to Google . . . well, what she did will haunt that boy forever.

Reading what she wrote, I just didn't see anything which indicated that her kid was that seriously disturbed. From her level of detail, it seems like she would have mentioned if he had actually been violent with other children or animals or anything.

The hospital she dropped him off at didn't put him in a psych ward. Who drops their kid off at an ER, just because he has a minor tantrum over being grounded from video games?

People are scared of giving kids a diagnoses - The PC brigade go mad because kids are being medicated for mental illnesses.

My life would have been very different if they had worked out what was wrong with me when I was young.

I'm sorry, but what?