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Rochard 03-23-2015 10:14 AM

Where was Senator Ted Cruz born?
 
Senator Ted Cruz just announced he is running for President. He was born in Canada.

Don't you have to be physically born in the United States to be President?

Wizzo 03-23-2015 10:18 AM

You have to be a natural born citizen and since his Mom was American he is but will give them something to debate on the news channels for a few months since it's a year and half away from the election...lol

Rochard 03-23-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 20426409)
You have to be a natural born citizen and since his Mom was American he is but will give them something to debate on the news channels for a few months since it's a year and half away from the election...lol

I get that. But doesn't that make the entire Obama Birther Movement invalid? Let's just say Obama was not born in the US.... Even if that was true his mother was American, which meant Obama boy would have been entitled to US citizenship at birth which.... Means Obama would have qualified for US President no matter what.

I'm sorry, I think a natural born citizen means you are physically born in the United States. Not in Canada, and not on a military base in a Panama.

Harmon 03-23-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426430)
I get that. But doesn't that make the entire Obama Birther Movement invalid? Let's just say Obama was not born in the US.... Even if that was true his mother was American, which meant Obama boy would have been entitled to US citizenship at birth which.... Means Obama would have qualified for US President no matter what.

I'm sorry, I think a natural born citizen means you are physically born in the United States. Not in Canada, and not on a military base in a Panama.

Natural means something you do not get. It goes much deeper. It has nothing to do with tits.

L-Pink 03-23-2015 10:51 AM

"be a natural born U.S. citizen. Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States. The only exception to this was for those around at the time the Constitution was adopted. Their requirement was that they had to be a citizen when the Constitution was adopted."

Vendzilla 03-23-2015 11:02 AM

Had the same conversation when McCain ran

Rochard 03-23-2015 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20426469)
"be a natural born U.S. citizen. Someone may be born abroad, but only if both parents were citizens of the United States. The only exception to this was for those around at the time the Constitution was adopted. Their requirement was that they had to be a citizen when the Constitution was adopted."

So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

Rochard 03-23-2015 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20426492)
Had the same conversation when McCain ran

And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

baddog 03-23-2015 11:21 AM

Sorry, he is an American citizen by birth.

L-Pink 03-23-2015 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426522)
So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

The source I first quoted said "both" parents

What are the Requirements to Become US President?


The below source says "one parent"

Requirements to Become President of the United States

Fat Panda 03-23-2015 11:23 AM

cruz is a radical right wing fascist who was born in kanada, went to harvard and has spent his entire life working in government.

typical gop, anti-gov freeloading phony

L-Pink 03-23-2015 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426533)
And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.


"one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen"

"The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged"


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baddog 03-23-2015 11:27 AM

Citizenship Through Parents | USCIS

Does the President Have to Be Born On U.S. Soil?

TheSquealer 03-23-2015 11:29 AM

Rochard is like Rainman without the math.

Joshua G 03-23-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426522)
So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

the whole thing that a person must be born in america, is anti-american. it was fine in 1789. but nowadays its obsolete, especially since 100% of white peoples ancestors are not from america anyway. the age requirement is obsolete too. so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now. amendment 3? OMG what a fossil.

:2 cents:

MrBottomTooth 03-23-2015 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426533)
And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

No one in America is going to vote for someone that spent most of their life in Iran so you are probably safe.

arock10 03-23-2015 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Panda (Post 20426540)
cruz is a radical right wing fascist who was born in kanada, went to harvard and has spent his entire life working in government.

typical gop, anti-gov freeloading phony

But since he isn't black it's ok

Rochard 03-23-2015 12:06 PM

You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

dyna mo 03-23-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426616)
You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

you don't think anti-republitards are going to latch on to this and make it an issue?

crockett 03-23-2015 12:09 PM

Ted Cruz.. yet another fucking shithead Canada has imported.


#BanCanada

BlackCrayon 03-23-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426616)
You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

Vendzilla 03-23-2015 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426616)
You are all missing my point.

The birther movement claimed that Obama wasn't legally able to become President because he wasn't born in the United States. Assuming for a moment that this is true, he would still legally be able to become President of the United States because he was in fact - no matter what - a US citizen.

Shouldn't everyone who ever believed in the birther movement believe that Cruz cannot run for President?

We should start with Vendzilla.

Dosn't matter, as soon as he became president, nothing can be done about it

Vendzilla 03-23-2015 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20426555)
so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now.

:2 cents:

Wrong

Supreme court ruled on that The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

Vendzilla 03-23-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20426641)
the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

Cruz's father was from Cuba

dyna mo 03-23-2015 12:39 PM

Cruz? sounds mexican, so it could be worse.

Rochard 03-23-2015 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20426641)
the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

But his mother was.

L-Pink 03-23-2015 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20426670)
Cruz? sounds mexican, so it could be worse.

Irish Cuban born in Canada living in Texas.

Rochard 03-23-2015 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20426650)
Dosn't matter, as soon as he became president, nothing can be done about it

For once we agree - It doesn't matter. Even if he was born outside of the US, his mother being an American citizen made him a natural born citizen with rights to American citizenship upon birth.

Even if the birther movement was right, he should legally would be able to run for President.

Vendzilla 03-23-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426533)
And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

I think is McCain's case, it was a good call, he was born on a military base and served in the military.
But have to agree with you, if you spent your life somewhere else, you don't know the people.

baddog 03-23-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20426555)
the whole thing that a person must be born in america, is anti-american. it was fine in 1789. but nowadays its obsolete, especially since 100% of white peoples ancestors are not from america anyway. the age requirement is obsolete too. so is the 2nd amendment. militias havent provided the national defense for over 200 years now. amendment 3? OMG what a fossil.

:2 cents:


dyna mo 03-23-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20426677)
Irish Cuban born in Canada living in Texas.

like a trendy shitty fusion restaurant!

MaDalton 03-23-2015 01:05 PM


rogueteens 03-23-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426533)
And I still feel the same exact way. I believe that unless you were physically born in the United States, you cannot be president of the United States.

Here's why.... Imagine some day we can legally have someone born in Iran or Turkey or some other country, have them be raised their entire life in another country, and still became President of the United States. I think that's wrong.

You are lucky, the rats over here think that as soon as someone gets off the plane at Gatwick, they automatically become British!

crockett 03-23-2015 01:53 PM

Funny thing.. A Lawyer in Az whom has the same name owns TedCruz.com

Seems he like to troll the politician. :1orglaugh

UniqueD 03-23-2015 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 20426641)
the main difference being obama's father was not a US citizen.

Neither was Cruz's father. He didn't become a naturalized citizen until 2005.

kane 03-23-2015 03:18 PM

What is more interesting to me is that Cruz basically has exactly the same experience an credentials that Obama had when he ran. With those right wing pundits that went after Obama's lack of experience give Cruz the same treatment?

directfiesta 03-23-2015 03:41 PM

I am so proud :at last a Canadian citizen ( well x ) will be POTUS :)

bronco67 03-23-2015 03:43 PM

I was listening to some soundbytes from this tool earlier on the news. This lunatic will never make it.

If he does, he'll win the president with the most punchable face ever award.

bronco67 03-23-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20426522)
So someone who was born in Canada can become president of the United States?

HUH?

What kind of nonsense is that?

He could be born in Guatemala for all I care. What I do care about is him being an ignorant fuckwad Tea Party idiot. And he is.

mineistaken 03-23-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 20426561)
But since he isn't black it's ok

LOL, it is the exact opposite. He did not attact Obama for that because he was black. He attacked cruz for that because he was not black. So it is the exact opposite of what you claim.


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