Vaccine kills girl hours after injection
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...-vaccine-facts

this girl was injected and died hours later, but hey "it couldnt possibly be from the vaccine" LOL :1orglaugh

over and over: "the vaccine is safe" "the vaccine is safe" "the vaccine is safe" "the vaccine is safe"

so, if this was your daughter would you be cool about it and think its still safe for girls to get the vaccine?

because that is the message the media is sending...

Thing is this kind of thing happens to certain people with just about every vaccine thats ever been made. The only time you hear about it though is when its a new vaccine, like this one or the swine flu vaccine.

this is understandable, however, if it kills, it kills. Repeating "this vaccine is safe' over and over, doesnt make it so. I have a daughter on the way, so I follow this stuff now, as for before i didnt care, now I do.

So rather then take the 1% risk you are going to take the higher risk and just let her get exposed to everything? Math is your friend and especially when it comes to parenting. If you worry about every non event, you will be the parent with his kid on a leash and that is not good either.

dont make this about me, its not. Simply reading the news.

are you a parent>?

Maybe she was kosher.

it's an allergic reaction perhaps.

yes, all over the new here. However, one out of the MANY that have it every year is a very small risk.

Yes, I would have my daughter have it and protect herself from cervical cancer. Imagine NOT having your daughter get it and watching her die of cervical cancer..a very not pretty death..because one allergic reaction scared you.

see this is the problem for me, everytime someone says this "either give it to her or she will die from cancer'; it makes me wonder how much of this angle is total bullshit.

i am beginning to actually see what others have said. its usually people without kids who want to tell others how to raise theirs LOL

sarah, do you have kids?

I cant imagine being forced to vaccinate a child and then having her die hours later... no matter how many people say its safe.

Something like 4600 suspected allergic reactions to the vaccine out of 1400000.

heres the kicker, a bunch of girls are sick at the school, although she is the only death so far, when flocks of girls are sick and vomiting from a vaccine and one dies, yeah it will tend to raise suspicions LOL :1orglaugh

Yep, I would have thought so :)

I have step kids from my first marriage that are now grown but weren't when I was married. Both are girls and both were sexually active before either myself or my husband would have liked. Therefore, prime candidates to be protected by anything aimed at cutting the risk of cervical cancer.

I am speaking as a woman on this one too. This is something that can help to prevent one of the most horrible forms of cancer a woman can get. When they started to implement it into schools, there were are many more people against it because 'girls shouldn't be encouraged to have sex' that there were those worried about the safety of the injections. I feel horrible for this girl and her family but the idea that it could be used by those people as a reason to pull it out of schools worries me.

You are correct about virtually every vaccine...if not every vaccine...kills someone...and this applies to virtually every type of medicine as well. You have to play the percentages when it comes to medicine and medical procedures.

And allergic reaction doesn't mean death.

Heck, a lot of women have allergic reactions to condoms. Some will even die from the reaction to the latex. There will always be somebody that reacts to things that the majority don't.

where are you people p[ulling ythis "allergic reaction" shit from, doctors dont even know how she died yet, saying its allergic is silly.

Either way, a death occured and something tells me if it was any one of your children, all of us would sing a didfferent tune but hey, since it doesnt affect us directly, sure inject all schoolkids, only so many will die.

a few lives to save the many right? LOL

hopefully on vaccination day, my daughter doesnt die so yours can live. LOL see how that works?

yeah, screw protecting women from cancer

well when "protecting" women from cancer ends in the death of YOUR child you cant expect everyone to just sit by and wave the pom poms while children are sick and dying.

its easy for folks like you and me to sit here and talk about this, but really, the death of a child is terrible. to lump this in to a roll of the dice downplays the importance of questioning man made vaccines as well as deminishs the value of the lives at risk.

It is always a roll of the dice when medicine...or medical procedures are involved. People die every year from over the counter medicines. People die every year from an allergic reaction to something they ate. People die every year from virtually everything imaginable.

poor girl, she gets the shot so she wont get cancer and she dies from it instead. Life is a paradox

wow youre like the only one in the thread ot even grasp that! you actually acknowlege her LIFE!

you deserve prize.

the mob will continue to shout "her life was meaningless, the ones we saved are valuable!"

yet this family now gets tossed to the side, family ripped apart by a medical gamble they had to make because hey "she might die from cancer" - And people want to inject another million kids this week LOL

amazing.

i wonder how many years she would have lived had she just took her chances at life LOL

^ is about all that need to be said

Wasn't suggesting it did. Just putting some figures into the discussion.

The figures are what was being reported in the media yesterday. The key word in the original post being 'suspected'.

Please point out where the "mob" shouted that "her life was meaningless, the ones we saved are valuable!"...I missed that part. I also missed the part where anyone said she had an allergic reaction...please point that out as welll.

You know, I think this kind of talk is just as much a scare tactic that then scares people..in this case women ..from NOT getting protected. That gets me just as worked up as you are for your own reasons.

If MY child died in such a circumstance, yes I would be amazingly upset and I would want an investigation into why MY child died when all the others that had the same batch did not. However, I would like to think that I wouldn't then try to stop other young women from getting protected when obviously the majority aren't dropping dead the moment they have a shot.

Hate to tell you but life is a roll of the dice. MY child could eat a blueberry and die from some reaction. I am not going to go on a campaign to stop all other kids from eating blueberries. Try to figure out why MY child reacted would be energy better served in my view.

But hey, only people with actual biological children can have a view.

gotcha, i think the one figure I am concerned about now is, if she had not been vaccinated and killed, how many years would she have lived?

Are we so afraid that we are willing to thow away this girls entire life, just so we can inject a million girls with a vaccine to make Gardasil rich?

There is a very good chance this girl could have lived to be 100 and never gotten cancer. But the fear mongers carrying cancer flags got her family to inject her and now her life is gone.

I dont think parents have the right to end a childs life out of fear.

i dont think schools have a right to inject children.

and it goes on and on... but the main thing that MUST be asked, is how long would she had lived without this vaccine?

Chances are, a long happy life.

Women lived without this vaccine for thousands of years....sorry, I have to agree that this vaccine is way strange to me. The cause for cervical cancer is not limited to sexually active girls.

I never got a swine flu shot back in the 70's (lots of people died from that one) and wont ever get a flu shot..neither have any of my kids.. OMG..they are still alive and have a great immune system. My daughter doesnt have cervical cancer .

It seems the pharm companies are finding more demographics to market than the typical hyporchondriac sitting in front of the TV.....sickening.

hey girl we were just wondering where you been!!

The swine flu vaccinations in the 70's brought rise to many cases of normally rare Gillian-Barre (it was proven there was a link). I am not going to have myself or my family vaccinated for swine flu this time around either, I prefer not to take a risk with my children. As for the gardisil or whatever it is, that's all fine and well and good, but it's a much better option to me in my mind to teach my children when they are of age about things like safe sex, the dangers that lurk, and how to protect themselves. Most cases of hpv are directly related to risky sex, forwarned is forarmed.

i gotta make up with stickyfingers now though, we had this vaccine discussion in the past and now I feel more like he does about this shit.

lol

sticky you readin this? i see your point now dogg, lets shoot anyone who tries to touch the kids brah

Drinking diet coke can cause cancer, leading a generally unhealthy lifestyle can cause cancer, walking down the road can cause cancer, everything causes cancer these days, aside from the obvious ones like smoking. Cancer is an uncontrolled division of cells, it can be triggered by any mutagen that moves repressor genes further away from oncogenes. We live in a stew of mutation-causing crap, what more is to be expected? However, mutation is also nature's way of helping the evolutionary process along. The idea of exposing one's self to potentially unneccessary vaccinations is merely a stop-gap measure. Some illnesses (read mutations) even serve a positive purpose (such as people afflicted with sickle-cell anemia having a natural protection from maleria). Not saying it's nice that people die from stuff like that, but the more we mess with mother nature, the more nasty ways she finds to mess back.

still west coastin it brother...and I see you have a baby on the way. Do I get to be Aunt Betty?

Dont mess with mother nature!!!! :thumbsup

hey I know many have strong feelings about this, but nowhere did I say only people with biological children can have a view.

All I did state was I have noticed now what others have told me in the past. Its people without kids who speak the loudest about what others should do or shouldnt do with their kids. That was all. I asked if you had kids, becuase I was curious if you did... I have no idea if you do or dont.

I used to be one of those without kids telling people how to raise them, now I am wearing their shoes. Its easy to sit back and say what others should do, but unless you are in their shoes its hard to grasp the circumstances.

One thing is for sure though: a healthy young girl walked into school, got a shot, then died.

her life was ended and it was from a vaccine she did NOT have to undergo. She could still be alive and I know that thought will haunt the parents for the rest of their life.

"if we had not injected her, she would still be here"

that is fact.

Doc says wouldn't give the FLU Vaccine to his children.

Vaccines are child abuse.

due nov 22nd. just about ready to come out the oven!

i am in the process of painting her room and stuff pink LOL tons to do, have to sand and painthuge areas still

u need to email me so we can exchange some phone numbers. OMG..Nov 22 is here already!!!!

bettylinx at hotmail dot com

Seems like too much of a risk for the disease its trying to stop :2 cents:

no kidding, the look on his face is like "hell fucking no" i wouldnt give it to my kids.

LOL

he makes the vaccine sound more toxic than cancer :1orglaugh