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BluMedia 12-03-2010 06:28 PM

Epassporte the biggest scan in the adult industry ever
 
Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

marketsmart 12-03-2010 06:41 PM

in a perfect world i imagine chris thought that his movies would be a big success and epass would continue to exist..

unfortunately, he gambled and lost and in the process fucked a lot of hard working people out of their money..

if you know the history of epass after its involvement with epoch/paycom, it's a miracle that epass didnt get shut down by the feds years ago..

if chris ended up broke after this i would think people would feel better, but i doubt this is the case..

chris is no dummy and i am pretty confident that unless people continue to spray the internet with the epass story, chris will move on in better shape than when he started...




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garce 12-03-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BluMedia (Post 17747685)
Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

IBill? Anyone?

Personally, I lost a lot more money from SyPro, Lancelot, Globill, and Facial Cash (individually) than I lost with Epass. With Epass, I bought my scripts and traffic, I bought video games and baseball caps, and I used it to pay for my World of Warcraft account.

Petty change compared to the raping I took from the other thieves.

Still, I don't by scripts or traffic anymore, and I quit WOW. I don't buy or sell domains, and I don't buy content anymore. It was only a grand or two a month I spent with Epass, but the loss of convenience really hurts.

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluMedia (Post 17747685)
Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

alot of people did get their money back..:2 cents: if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.

Slutboat 12-03-2010 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17747736)
alot of people did get their money back..:2 cents: if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.


people are still getting their money back - the OP obviously has no clue about the whole situation

lagcam 12-03-2010 07:22 PM

Does anybody have a clue about the whole situation?

I got my money out, and I suspect the vast majority of people who used their real name or business have or eventually will.

mozadek 12-03-2010 07:49 PM

Adapt or die

BareBacked 12-03-2010 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluMedia (Post 17747685)
Seems like a great scam to me. Build a company and build up your reputation and then pull the plug when you have 25 million dollars. Nobody is ever going to see their money.

I feel you are way off on this one

botfurom 12-03-2010 09:40 PM

I think its not a scam because, why they are still paying thru wire?

epitome 12-03-2010 10:57 PM

Edit: Wait, are people getting wallet wires now?

Tjeezers 12-04-2010 12:47 AM

The bank who cut out the middle men did a good job
a lot of people got their money back.

AdultKing 12-04-2010 01:39 AM

Nobody is getting wallet wires, the people posting that they have received wires have received SKNANB wires of their VV funds.

These two are very different. SKNANB controls Visa funds, ePassporte controls wallet funds and it is wallet funds which are not being returned.

Anyone who doesn't think this is a scam either has no fucking clue or has no fucking clue.

djroof 12-04-2010 01:44 AM

I never had money in my epass... ATM works when I had cash there ;)

Machete_ 12-04-2010 02:07 AM

links pulled

Paul Markham 12-04-2010 04:56 AM

Was never an intended scam. Epass was worth more to Chris open and working than it is now.

He gambled on a film and lost. If he gambled with other peoples money he should pay for it. Prison and repay with every penny he has.

signupdamnit 12-04-2010 06:30 AM

It keeps happening because people let them get away with it. Sue him. Contact the authorities and ask them to consider fraud charges.

2intense 12-04-2010 06:31 AM

fuck epass.

u-Bob 12-04-2010 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17747702)
i am pretty confident that unless people continue to spray the internet with the epass story, chris will move on in better shape than when he started...

quoted .

u-Bob 12-04-2010 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17747736)
alot of people did get their money back..:2 cents: if it was simply a fill the sack and run op , nobody would have gotten anything.

The money that epass kept on the SKNANB cards is being returned by SKNANB.

But let's not forget that epass set up a special e-wallet, encouraged people to use that instead of the visa cards. The money that was in the e-wallet was never returned. Looks like intend to defraud to me....

u-Bob 12-04-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 17747759)
Does anybody have a clue about the whole situation?

I got my money out, and I suspect the vast majority of people who used their real name or business have or eventually will.

The SKNANB has been returning money, Epass itself hasn't returned a single cent.

u-Bob 12-04-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17747996)
Edit: Wait, are people getting wallet wires now?

No, seems a lot of people aren't really up to speed on things and don't understand the difference between the SKNANB issued virtual visa cards and the epass held wallet funds.

signupdamnit 12-04-2010 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17748558)
Looks like intend to defraud to me....

Weren't there numerous claims by Epassporte staff and Mallick that everyone would get their money? That could potentially be used as evidence in establishing the intent to defraud.

CaptainHowdy 12-04-2010 06:39 AM

Epassporte is epassporte...

u-Bob 12-04-2010 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17748576)
Weren't there numerous claims by Epassporte staff and Mallick that everyone would get their money? That could potentially be used as evidence in establishing the intent to defraud.

There's the fact that they created the wallet and encouraged people to use it.
There's the fact that the funds in those wallets went missing.
there's the fact that they erased their customers history.
There's the fact that Chris Mallick lied about working hard to fix things while he in reality was partying in Cabo.
There's the fact that Chris Mallick has a history of fraudulent bankruptcies.
There's the fact that communications from epass have ended.
there's the fact that the epass mother company was dissolved a couple of days after the shit hit the fan.
There's the fact that non of the deadlines epass itself set for returning the money, for answering emails, for confirming dates that wires would be sent,.... were all ignored.

Forest 12-04-2010 07:02 AM

ibill took off with more money

at least the people who had their money in the VV got or are getting it back

Most of the sponsors who had funds got them back

iggysick 12-04-2010 07:13 AM

until next time

woj 12-04-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Forest (Post 17748666)
ibill took off with more money

at least the people who had their money in the VV got or are getting it back

Most of the sponsors who had funds got them back

No one got their $$ back from the wallet.... :2 cents:

MrCain 12-04-2010 07:37 AM

I have money in my Epassporte wallet and never even received a reply to my emails expect for the standard "everything will be ok by October the 18th 2010". Chris Mallick is a THIEF!

BlackCrayon 12-04-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17747749)
people are still getting their money back - the OP obviously has no clue about the whole situation

the only people now getting their money back are those with virtual visa money, the money chris never had access too. i wouldn't say that is getting your money from epassporte. thats getting your money from visa the wallets, which were handled by epassporte seem to be totally gone.

emill 12-04-2010 07:52 AM

Ehh Epassporte, what to say. :(

Slutboat 12-04-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17748925)
the only people now getting their money back are those with virtual visa money, the money chris never had access too. i wouldn't say that is getting your money from epassporte. thats getting your money from visa the wallets, which were handled by epassporte seem to be totally gone.


I get that - but the premise of the thread is that epass existed as a scam - Chris fucked up badly yes...and he probably walked away with other peoples money in his pocket... but I doubt that he set it up solely to scam people from the beginning...

u-Bob 12-04-2010 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat (Post 17749184)
I get that - but the premise of the thread is that epass existed as a scam - Chris fucked up badly yes...and he probably walked away with other peoples money in his pocket... but I doubt that he set it up solely to scam people from the beginning...

It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

Lykos 12-04-2010 09:10 AM

He won't end up good way if he scam so many people...

John-ACWM 12-04-2010 09:47 AM

And then was karma :)

directfiesta 12-04-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17749190)
It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

Amazing how you seem to be the only one to get the big picture ....:2 cents:

Forest 12-04-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17748757)
No one got their $$ back from the wallet.... :2 cents:

even so. it would still bet the amount of money lost to ibill was more. large programs lost 100's of thousands if not millions each

Forest 12-04-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17749190)
It turned into a scam when they set up the wallet system. Epassporte worked fine for years, why would they want to create an e-wallet unless they wanted to use that money for their own projects?

guarantee you when mallick decided he wanted to produce a movie and needed funds to leverage the investment against thats when the wallet idea came into effect.

i thank god i missed that email and never put my money in the wallet. i would be out xx,xxx.xx

Davy 12-04-2010 05:00 PM

The movie titles he "prodoced" = gave money for are Middlemen and "Exit: Live after porn". You have to wonder...

vvvvroom 12-04-2010 05:10 PM

i agree,epass was scam

Slutboat 12-04-2010 06:24 PM

does anyone know who made the actual decision to yank the visa account from epass - and if they had just seen the movie... it cant be a coincidence...

Probably some suit in a corner office somewhere had just watched a screener of Middle Men - and thought to himself "This is the clown shuffling millions of dollars through our system?" - then picked up a phone and made the executive decision to yank his shit.

pinkbits 12-05-2010 02:16 AM

I am still waiting on my $ 50 k.

Mike Dutch 12-05-2010 03:03 AM

+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.

webchris 12-05-2010 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 17750991)
+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.

from eP wallet ?

facialfreak 12-05-2010 05:13 AM

All this talk and what I want to know, is if anybody has had the balls to go to the FBI Cyber Crimes Division yet??

I have a $2000 horse in the race, so I am curious???

gpaps 12-06-2010 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Dutch (Post 17750991)
+25k received successfully, it took a while but thats how these things work.


Did you do anything out of the ordinary to get your wire? lawyers?

We could all appreciate any help you can give us.

Fletch XXX 12-06-2010 09:12 AM

crazy thread title:upsidedow

kazbalah 12-06-2010 10:11 AM

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.

kazbalah 12-06-2010 10:21 AM

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.

Agent 488 12-06-2010 10:25 AM

Dont be silly it wasnt setup as a scam.. as marketsmart said - Chris mallick gambled and lost.

Although he gambled with other peoples money...

He would have made more then 25 mil if he kept it going, he had a virtual monopoly on the adult biz.

a 10 BILLION dollar industry - as big as hollywood movies.

25 mil is chump change.


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