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Tekiloved 12-08-2010 05:55 AM

Kinky Dollars ratio....
 
Up to october it was the best BDSM and Gay BDSM partnership with 1:600 ratio. But from november very bad ratio..... And what about U?

signupdamnit 12-08-2010 06:48 AM

Things got very bad with them this year for me after many years. I quit putting up new links.

Fabien 12-08-2010 08:46 AM

1:23000 here

Tekiloved 12-08-2010 09:15 AM

Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

bns666 12-08-2010 10:30 AM

no signup or rebill for few days already there...

Qbert 12-08-2010 10:34 AM

All the Kink.com sponsored clips on Pornhub network can't be helping affiliate ratios. I pulled all my Kinky Dollars links earlier this year when I discovered those sponsored clips.

xxxjay 12-08-2010 12:28 PM

I won't promote them because they have so many trafic leaks to their DVD and VOD you don't get credit for.

It's a shame because they are one of the better studios.

Fat Panda 12-08-2010 12:30 PM

good information to know

Fletch XXX 12-08-2010 12:31 PM

used to do so good with em too.

signupdamnit 12-08-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 17759811)
used to do so good with em too.

Same here. They used to be my #2 sponsor for years. But suddenly I lost a lot of rebills and the ratios climbed at the beginning of the year. It hurt but when your ratio gets to 1:6,000 for the year I HAVE to pull the plug. It doesn't matter if you're my own mother. :upsidedow Business is business. They always paid though. I have to give them that.

DBS.US 12-08-2010 12:40 PM

0 sales last month:disgust

Roald 12-08-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 17759802)
I won't promote them because they have so many trafic leaks to their DVD and VOD you don't get credit for.

It's a shame because they are one of the better studios.

Are you sure you dont get paid for those? Cause I am pretty sure I see sales on those sites while we don;t really push them.

femdomdestiny 12-08-2010 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekiloved (Post 17759208)
Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

Here it is , captain.

TerryM 12-08-2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17759849)
Are you sure you dont get paid for those? Cause I am pretty sure I see sales on those sites while we don;t really push them.

Just to clear up any misconception: Webmasters are paid for all Kink On Demand purchases made from any tour. Also, we do not sell DVDs on our tours.

TerryM 12-08-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekiloved (Post 17758702)
Up to october it was the best BDSM and Gay BDSM partnership with 1:600 ratio. But from november very bad ratio..... And what about U?

Hey Tekiloved,

We have some new tools we are rolling out, hit me up via email and we can get started. It should help conversions. We are going to make an announcement soon about it.

Cheers,

Terry

djroof 12-08-2010 01:55 PM

nice ratio 1:600 ;)

Argos88 12-08-2010 03:57 PM

1:3500...

Hard to get sales... but their retention is incredible...

I wish the ratio was better, BUT their content is all over pornbb or extreme-board or torrents... so.. we can't expect better ratios really..

All their complete site rips are all over pornbb.org... TERA BYTES OF HD CONTENT...

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alias 12-08-2010 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17758833)
Things got very bad with them this year for me after many years. I quit putting up new links.

This ^.

Fuck em. :321GFY

alias 12-08-2010 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tekiloved (Post 17759208)
Are anybody know gay BDSM programs with good ratio?

http://convertingsponsors.com/ has Spice Cash listed! They are good for mobile fetish too.

SGS 12-08-2010 04:23 PM

We used to do ok with kink (our best non ccbill sponsor) but pulled all of our links as we had issues with our affiliate username being printed on checks.

femdomdestiny 12-08-2010 04:26 PM

dropped
 
I've pulled almost all of my links since conversion ratios went extremely high. Probably because their sites are oversaturated and content available on torrents and tubes.Alo ,in this moment, they are missing paxum payment option, so checks are pain in the ass for overseas webmasters like me.

RyuLion 12-08-2010 04:30 PM

Guys! their retention is crazy, I haven't put up much new content on my blogs but their retention is crazy good!

willwank 12-08-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 17760484)
Guys! their retention is crazy, I haven't put up much new content on my blogs but their retention is crazy good!

Agree but when signups are drying up retention really doesn't matter in the end, there is nothing to retain. Somehow this need to change soon. I hate this because KD sites are among the absolute best sites a customer will ever see.

TerryM 12-08-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 17760468)
I've pulled almost all of my links since conversion ratios went extremely high. Probably because their sites are oversaturated and content available on torrents and tubes.Alo ,in this moment, they are missing paxum payment option, so checks are pain in the ass for overseas webmasters like me.

We are implementing a new payout solution as we speak. I will post back in the thread when we have launched it. We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

signupdamnit 12-08-2010 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrykink (Post 17760531)
We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

Wise move. :2 cents:

I'll watch my stats and promote again if they start coming back to reasonable levels.

signupdamnit 12-08-2010 05:24 PM

Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

alias 12-08-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17760639)
Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

No lie there.

AmeliaG 12-08-2010 05:32 PM

1:1586 for me with Kink so far this year.

2009 1:1087
2008 1:980
2007 1:554

None of which is the glory of 2005 numbers or before, but, in the current economy, that doesn't suck.

signupdamnit 12-08-2010 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 17760663)
1:1586 for me with Kink so far this year.

2009 1:1087
2008 1:980
2007 1:554

None of which is the glory of 2005 numbers or before, but, in the current economy, that doesn't suck.

My problem is that my global average for all programs is around 1:1,400 in 2010. I'd be satisfied with that. But not 1:4,800. Hopefully 2011 is better.

Forkbeard 12-08-2010 07:00 PM

I was 1:3173 in October, and gross new sales numbers dropped so badly that I didn't get the 60% affiliate share for the first time in forever. So I said fuckit and pretty much stopped putting up new material for them. Like somebody else said, business is business -- I treasure my long and productive business relationship with the Kink.com people, but there's a limit to how much traffic you can send chasing ratios that bad.

Then in November on zero effort and old links (of which I have umpty-jillion) my Kink ratio went back up to 1:1734 and I got a ton of small sales. Ratio so far this month on modest renewed effort (a few blog posts) is 1:1817. So, the long horrible ratios slide seems to have taken a breather for me. I did see some modest search engine placement improvements that might explain it -- I can't swear it's part of any broader trends.

2007: 1:1079
2008: 1:1392
2009: 1:1735
2010: 1:1988

Argos88 12-08-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17760639)
Just to show how bad pirated content hurts sales (if that's the reason)

To kink.com

2007: 1:600
2008: 1:1,100
2009: 1:1,300
2010: 1:4,800

Anyone paying attention? Numbers don't lie.

quoted for truth.

Their content is all over pornbb and extreme-board and torrents and rapid clones and and and....

I send kinkydollars staff many threads with complete site rips to help them report them, but unfortunately it takes lots of time to do, I'm not an employer and nobody pays for the time I do that... Other webmasters should do the same when they see such threads..

KINK and Peter should hire employers to do that 24/7 if they really care about their content.

their complete site rips with updates are available for download for FREE all over the internet.

Which surfer will be so stupid to join and pay for that if they can get it for FREE at one of those ILLEGAL SITES suported by AWEMPIRE.

AWEMPIRE is definitely an enemy to this business, can't believe so many stupid webmasters promote AWEMPIRE... Suckers.

.

botfurom 12-08-2010 10:24 PM

1:30 Chat Traffic here!!

Forkbeard 12-08-2010 10:48 PM

I stopped sending Kink.com links to pirated content many years ago ... so many years ago that Tony was still the affiliate manager. His response back then was basically "as long as it's got our watermark on it, we basically consider it free advertising." Ahh, those were the fat days!

CunningStunt 12-08-2010 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forkbeard (Post 17761180)
I stopped sending Kink.com links to pirated content many years ago ... so many years ago that Tony was still the affiliate manager. His response back then was basically "as long as it's got our watermark on it, we basically consider it free advertising." Ahh, those were the fat days!

Spot on.

1:1915 last month, I haven't touched their sites in about 3 years. Still getting rebills after rebills though on historic sales, they really do retain those customers well.

Shame about their stance on piracy :Oh crap

jimmycooper 12-08-2010 10:54 PM

Fuck AWE!
this is kind of unrelated, but I just whipped this site up on a whim so we could have a master list of traffic pissers. Check it out.
http://trafficleaks.wordpress.com/

Slappin Fish 12-09-2010 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terrykink (Post 17760531)
We have also stepped up our Anti-Piracy efforts across the board.

It's badly needed. Shame to put so much effort producing a quality product then let i go to waste by not dedicating at least some resources fighting against piracy.

2intense 12-09-2010 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien (Post 17759137)
1:23000 here

nice ratio :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tekiloved 12-09-2010 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 17759943)
Here it is , captain.

Already! :thumbsup They launch new site with excellent ratio :2 cents:

BradBreakfast 12-09-2010 03:56 AM

I suggest you people start sending traffic to BoundGods, gay always converts better. With that being said, I think KINK.com is an upstanding company, while nobody is perfect, try to do their best.

just a punk 12-09-2010 04:30 AM

I'll wait for paxum or payoneer :2 cents:

dev777 12-09-2010 04:39 AM

1:4000 last month but they retain twice as good as anyone else. I average $60 per join on rev share.

Like everyone else said.. their content is widely available for free on various forums. Full HD site rips. No doubt that has played a role in the ratios.

bns666 12-09-2010 06:15 AM

1:3414 for 2010

Tekiloved 12-09-2010 07:20 AM

Last months:
Bound Gods
July - 1:316
August - 1:551
September - 1:675
October - 1:596
November - 1:1306
December - no sales for any site.....
Traffic from Gay BDSM Cj`s with a lot of SE, Gay BDSM blogs, top lists..... From this traffic ratio for Kashcaboom sites - 1:300 or over that......

BradBreakfast 12-09-2010 07:59 AM

People become Kink members for the quality and community it provides, those who would rather download multiple split files from file-sharing forums and sites like RapidShare and Hotfile are the people who will NEVER pay for content, and not the kind of people you want in your membership base anyways. A lot of the people [though, not all] who do that are on fixed incomes or disability thus they have unlimited time on their hands to locate and re-pair such downloads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dev777 (Post 17761512)
1:4000 last month but they retain twice as good as anyone else. I average $60 per join on rev share.

Like everyone else said.. their content is widely available for free on various forums. Full HD site rips. No doubt that has played a role in the ratios.


Forkbeard 12-09-2010 08:10 AM

It occurs to me that a smart program would have a BOUNTY program to help catch pirates -- an automated submission URL for tips about pirated stuff. Good tips would be rewarded with free access -- in Kink.com's case, this would be easy to calibrate using Kinks.

stever 12-09-2010 08:16 AM

1:35 this year with kink
members area traffic though

bns666 12-10-2010 01:52 AM

Something could really be happening on their billing side, almost whole week no signup OR rebill...

All those months at least if there would be no signup, a rebill here and there would happen...

Davy 12-10-2010 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 17759837)
0 sales last month:disgust

Time to change your sig, don't you think? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

bns666 12-13-2010 02:35 PM

with all of the kink.com siterips and vids on tubes and torrents why would anybody actually buy membership.......

CunningStunt 12-13-2010 02:53 PM

I've signed up with 3 other programs which cover all bases, pulling all links this week other than one super niche site which sells off the charts.


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