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BSleazy 01-12-2011 10:17 PM
Femdom sites gone from programs?
 
I was just looking for femdom flvs and embeds and all the programs that had them in the past don't even have the sites listed anymore. Strange.

Anyways...if you know of any that are still around reply here.

macker 01-12-2011 10:44 PM
FetishAssets.com has you covered :thumbsup

tiger 01-12-2011 11:38 PM
What programs?

AHarper 01-12-2011 11:53 PM
Check out Fetishwealth, Redlinescash and NBB Cash

Peter Romero 01-12-2011 11:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 17840693)
I was just looking for femdom flvs and embeds and all the programs that had them in the past don't even have the sites listed anymore. Strange.

Anyways...if you know of any that are still around reply here.
Try www.TushyCash.com they have plenty of Fem Dom sites.

AmeliaG 01-13-2011 12:14 AM
http://ads.divinebitches.com/imagedb...i/h/830/16.jpg

Divine Bitches is still up

Danny B 01-13-2011 01:07 AM
MEATCASH has CATFIGHTGANGBANG for your lesbian femdom GB fix.

justfreemovies 01-13-2011 01:12 AM
maybe its because femdom is retarded?

bns666 01-13-2011 02:56 AM
it's not retarded, just as everything else people who shoot the content should know how to do it on a proper way and what the end user is really looking for.

one of the biggest mistakes is mixing in sex with femdom, most of the femdom consumers are male subs who feel inferior towards women and think they don't deserve to screw the dominatrix who punishes them.

that's why divinebitches.com doesn't convert too well on femdom traffic and bdsm sites from fuckyoucash at some point stopped converting because content was nowhere near something surfer would want from a bdsm site, and my guess is that content wasn't that appealing to an end user.

macker 01-13-2011 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 17841034)
it's not retarded, just as everything else people who shoot the content should know how to do it on a proper way and what the end user is really looking for.

one of the biggest mistakes is mixing in sex with femdom, most of the femdom consumers are male subs who feel inferior towards women and think they don't deserve to screw the dominatrix who punishes them.

that's why divinebitches.com doesn't convert too well on femdom traffic and bdsm sites from fuckyoucash at some point stopped converting because content was nowhere near something surfer would want from a bdsm site, and my guess is that content wasn't that appealing to an end user.
Yep, you have a point. Although if the sex is forced on the male sub and he is doing it simply to please his mistress on her orders then this would fit into the psyche of a male sub.

That said, you are absolutely right... simply dressing a woman up in a mistresses outfit and filming a sex scene is defo not femdom.

Sex in femdom is best shot with the male sub tied.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-13-2011 03:25 AM
Any covered fat dommes?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-13-2011 03:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by macker (Post 17841060)
Sex in femdom is best shot with the male sub tied.
Or stuffed into a box/crate. Those sets always made me giggle... :1orglaugh

AmeliaG 01-13-2011 04:36 AM
You try DogFart or is that still too much sex alongside the BDSM, even if the male sub doesn't get any?

SmotheredSlave and BondageOrgasms from DungeonCorp are respectively bi (she tops guys and chicks) femdom and lesbian femdom, although I think their tops could be more domme-y.

sojproductions 01-13-2011 05:40 AM
check out www.straponjane.com from www.bluepixelsprofits.com, we have hosted flvs etc, site updated weekly since 2003, absolutely shedloads of content and great value.

BSleazy 01-13-2011 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17840802)
What programs?
extremepaychecks - femdom abuse

realbucks * Femdom Reality
* FemDom Time
* In Fem Dom


serious partners * My Slave Life
* My Smoking Mistress



Probably more.

SGS 01-13-2011 12:26 PM
We have some 100% exclusive Femdom promo content at Soniacash together with Bondage, Cuckold, sub female etc, etc, etc. :)

Dirty D 01-13-2011 12:39 PM
Check out http://www.StrapOnSessions.com

RyuLion 01-13-2011 12:41 PM
http://www.clubdomcash.com/tools_linkcodes.php

signupdamnit 01-13-2011 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SGS (Post 17842214)
We have some 100% exclusive Femdom promo content at Soniacash together with Bondage, Cuckold, sub female etc, etc, etc. :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 17842266)
:2 cents:

Usually I wouldn't make it easier for competition but these two are quality high converting fair programs which deserve the praise.

PR_Glen 01-13-2011 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 17841034)
it's not retarded, just as everything else people who shoot the content should know how to do it on a proper way and what the end user is really looking for.

one of the biggest mistakes is mixing in sex with femdom, most of the femdom consumers are male subs who feel inferior towards women and think they don't deserve to screw the dominatrix who punishes them.

that's why divinebitches.com doesn't convert too well on femdom traffic and bdsm sites from fuckyoucash at some point stopped converting because content was nowhere near something surfer would want from a bdsm site, and my guess is that content wasn't that appealing to an end user.
that's assuming all your users are die hard bdsm types, which is silly in its own... I'd say there are more people who are into pseudo bdsm/domme sites with lots of sex in it than there are non contact power exchange sites.

remember we are all in business to make money at the end of the day and not just to satisfy the purists of a specific niche...


btw that picture that AmeliaG just posted reminded me of the last blind date i went on.... :1orglaugh

signupdamnit 01-13-2011 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17842306)
that's assuming all your users are die hard bdsm types, which is silly in its own... I'd say there are more people who are into pseudo bdsm/domme sites with lots of sex in it than there are non contact power exchange sites.

remember we are all in business to make money at the end of the day and not just to satisfy the purists of a specific niche...
I'd say he's actually right for about 75% of femdom seeking traffic. You shouldn't be surprised by this because it appears he primarily does BDSM and femdom from his sig and makes his living from knowing this stuff. If you throw regular sex into it begins to seem like vanilla porn which your fetish surfers can get anywhere and have seen 20,000 times. Most of the big guys don't really know how to do fetish. They'd do well to randomly select five surfers a month and ask them exactly what they'd like to see and what they don't like. Then give them a free 3 months. You'll probably be surprised if you do this. :2 cents:

Not sure I agree with his reasoning behind it but I can back up that he is correct on what the femdom surfer is seeking.

tranza 01-13-2011 01:09 PM
Here's a bump for you....

Lamis 01-13-2011 01:10 PM
there are tons of femdom sites out there.

the problem is that extreme-board.com has all their stolen content with links to oron.com and sharingmatrix, filesonic, etc..

so people hardly pay for extreme stuff or BDSM stuff anymore, its all for free, TERA BYTES are being posted every single day, and if the sponsors take the links down, they re-post them again in seconds, using a script for that. So no worries for them...

Check duke from duke dollars, who finished paying extreme-board a fee to prevent them posting the shitty facial abuse content with the giant redhead touching duke's cock in the double penetration.

Quite ridicolous, but this is the current situation of the adult biz 2011.

Angry jew cat your avatar really sucks, fucker. I always knew that extreme-Jews (sionists) and extreme nazis are the same shit. And don't say that it's a parody/joke or some shitty excuse.

Period.

stephane76 01-13-2011 01:11 PM
Check us out :)
Example here: http://premiumgalleries.aebn.net/gal...id/AEBN-016323

you can also hand pick individual embed codes, mass export the FLV galleries and use the RSS tool

I am on icq if you have any question

signupdamnit 01-13-2011 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17842354)
there are tons of femdom sites out there.

the problem is that extreme-board.com has all their stolen content with links to oron.com and sharingmatrix, filesonic, etc..

so people hardly pay for extreme stuff or BDSM stuff anymore, its all for free, TERA BYTES are being posted every single day, and if the sponsors take the links down, they re-post them again in seconds, using a script for that. So no worries for them...

Check duke from duke dollars, who finished paying extreme-board a fee to prevent them posting the shitty facial abuse content with the giant redhead touching duke's cock in the double penetration.
I agree. I believe the guy (was it argos88?) who posted the thread calling them out was shortly banned after making the post. Sometimes I wonder if it might be possible for affiliates to sue US sponsors who openly support piracy in that way (buying prepaid ads on pirate sites). After all an affiliate is still operating a business and clearly we are being hurt. I'd say there may be a good case for it. The hard part would be proving damages. Anyone else?

Quote:
Quite ridicolous, but this is the current situation of the adult biz 2011.

Angry jew cat your avatar really sucks, fucker. I always knew that extreme-Jews (sionists) and extreme nazis are the same shit. And don't say that it's a parody/joke or some shitty excuse.

Period.
No it's a joke. I think AJC is jewish if I recall. The guy in the picture is baddog and it was photoshopped. Dirty White boy has been doing various custom chops for people. I don't think he intends any disrespect. :2 cents:

PR_Glen 01-13-2011 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17842338)
I'd say he's actually right for about 75% of femdom seeking traffic. You shouldn't be surprised by this because it appears he primarily does BDSM and femdom from his sig and makes his living from knowing this stuff. If you throw regular sex into it begins to seem like vanilla porn which your fetish surfers can get anywhere and have seen 20,000 times. Most of the big guys don't really know how to do fetish. They'd do well to randomly select five surfers a month and ask them exactly what they'd like to see and what they don't like. Then give them a free 3 months. You'll probably be surprised if you do this. :2 cents:

Not sure I agree with his reasoning behind it but I can back up that he is correct on what the femdom surfer is seeking.
I don't doubt that he is an expert on the niche, my point was that the non purist form of the traffic most likely brings in more sales at the end of the day. More people like sex than pure form bdsm.

I may not be an expert on the niche myself, but I don't think I need to be to answer that one, our program covers a lot more niches than most and we have a lot more sales data to go over than others for comparison as well--which i think is relevant.

Lamis 01-13-2011 02:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17842388)
I agree. I believe the guy (was it argos88?) who posted the thread calling them out was shortly banned after making the post. Sometimes I wonder if it might be possible for affiliates to sue US sponsors who openly support piracy in that way (buying prepaid ads on pirate sites). After all an affiliate is still operating a business and clearly we are being hurt. I'd say there may be a good case for it. The hard part would be proving damages. Anyone else?
Yes, Argos88 is a great guy and I have him in my ICQ list, one of my collegues.

I think they already un-banned him, because it was really unfair, since he was saying 100% truth that DukeGAYWALKER didn't like and asked for ban.

However he says he doesn't come back to this forum because its full of asshole and bullshit that say: "We are against piracy" and then run a HUGE TUBE on the side. Full of fucking hypocrites like robby-gay-sucker and those.


Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17842388)
No it's a joke. I think AJC is jewish if I recall. The guy in the picture is baddog and it was photoshopped. Dirty White boy has been doing various custom chops for people. I don't think he intends any disrespect. :2 cents:
Well, that's what I said, Extreme-Jews (sionists) are the same shit as nazis, even considering that they were burned and mass murdered by them, they have the same Escense in their sentiment as the nazis had..

Check mossad for example...

Is it true that the PAYONEER OWNER is an ex-member of MOSSAD (the criminal illegal jew organization) ?

every time I ask this, nobody answer and I see STILL and quiet people..

And Im completely sure the STAFF OF PAYONNER READS this... 100% sure, so why don't answer? With silence you are answering YES.

SGS 01-13-2011 02:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17842277)
:2 cents:

Usually I wouldn't make it easier for competition but these two are quality high converting fair programs which deserve the praise.
Thank you :)

PR_Glen 01-13-2011 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17842580)
Yes, Argos88 is a great guy and I have him in my ICQ list, one of my collegues.

I think they already un-banned him, because it was really unfair, since he was saying 100% truth that DukeGAYWALKER didn't like and asked for ban.

However he says he doesn't come back to this forum because its full of asshole and bullshit that say: "We are against piracy" and then run a HUGE TUBE on the side. Full of fucking hypocrites like robby-gay-sucker and those.




Well, that's what I said, Extreme-Jews (sionists) are the same shit as nazis, even considering that they were burned and mass murdered by them, they have the same Escense in their sentiment as the nazis had..

Check mossad for example...

Is it true that the PAYONEER OWNER is an ex-member of MOSSAD (the criminal illegal jew organization) ?

every time I ask this, nobody answer and I see STILL and quiet people..

And Im completely sure the STAFF OF PAYONNER READS this... 100% sure, so why don't answer? With silence you are answering YES.
why would anyone answer a claim like that? especially if it is not backed up by anything...

Rochard 01-13-2011 02:36 PM
I don't know if these guys have what you need, but they take their site very seriously.

http://deadlydommes.com/

NBBCash Matze 01-13-2011 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AHarper (Post 17840816)
hey thx a lot for mentioning us! We've got lots of 1min embedded .flv clips for Femdom-Violations.com :thumbsup

signupdamnit 01-13-2011 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17842580)
Yes, Argos88 is a great guy and I have him in my ICQ list, one of my collegues.

I think they already un-banned him, because it was really unfair, since he was saying 100% truth that DukeGAYWALKER didn't like and asked for ban.

However he says he doesn't come back to this forum because its full of asshole and bullshit that say: "We are against piracy" and then run a HUGE TUBE on the side. Full of fucking hypocrites like robby-gay-sucker and those.
I'm glad they unbanned him then. I also thought it was bullshit to ban him when the proof was clearly visible on the forum and they later admitted to it in the thread. I just wasn't sure if they banned him solely for that post or something else.

Lamis 01-13-2011 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17842623)
why would anyone answer a claim like that? especially if it is not backed up by anything...
Hehe.. Man..........

Google Payoneer and it's connection with terrorism. :pimp

Google "Payoneer Mossad"

willwank 01-13-2011 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by macker (Post 17841060)
Yep, you have a point. Although if the sex is forced on the male sub and he is doing it simply to please his mistress on her orders then this would fit into the psyche of a male sub.

That said, you are absolutely right... simply dressing a woman up in a mistresses outfit and filming a sex scene is defo not femdom.

Sex in femdom is best shot with the male sub tied.
Thank god, at least a few ppl in here that get it :thumbsup

Actually, you can extend this to many niches. Tons of sponsors have no fucking clue what they are selling. And affiliates, well... they have no fucking clue either. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why someone who knows what he/she is doing are making more $ than the next guy with 10x the traffic. Sex is emotions, porn is emotions. Try faking anything fetish and you are dead in the water.

willwank 01-13-2011 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17842306)
that's assuming all your users are die hard bdsm types, which is silly in its own... I'd say there are more people who are into pseudo bdsm/domme sites with lots of sex in it than there are non contact power exchange sites.

remember we are all in business to make money at the end of the day and not just to satisfy the purists of a specific niche...


btw that picture that AmeliaG just posted reminded me of the last blind date i went on.... :1orglaugh
"Your" pseudo femdom sites does not work in any of the femdom niches. You can do all kinds of femdom sub-niches on one site or spread them over many sites but do them properly with credibility. Anything pseudo done with actors with no credibility will fail in todays market. Obviously you can put something together with a cheap crew, throw tons of general hardcore traffic at it and hope some shit stick. You'll probably turn a buck or two. I just don't think you should call it femdom, or fetish for that matter.

AmeliaG 01-13-2011 11:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17842306)
that's assuming all your users are die hard bdsm types, which is silly in its own... I'd say there are more people who are into pseudo bdsm/domme sites with lots of sex in it than there are non contact power exchange sites.

remember we are all in business to make money at the end of the day and not just to satisfy the purists of a specific niche...
As a purist myself in many areas, I have to remind myself to turn that part of my brain off some of the time for business. Sometimes I have to go with what I prefer, but I know I'm leaving money on the table doing so.

The sex in fetish thing is honestly my personal preference though. I've written and shot for all the major fetish magazines in pretty much the world, but I used to be fairly worked up on the issue of "true" fetish vs. sexual fetish. I usually found that anyone who told me what counted as fetish in real life tended to want to do whatever that was with me, but others' mileage may vary. Too much information?


Quote:
Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17842306)
btw that picture that AmeliaG just posted reminded me of the last blind date i went on.... :1orglaugh
Ha, ha, didn't mean to give you flashbacks.

MsCheyenne 01-15-2011 05:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 17841034)
it's not retarded, just as everything else people who shoot the content should know how to do it on a proper way and what the end user is really looking for.

one of the biggest mistakes is mixing in sex with femdom, most of the femdom consumers are male subs who feel inferior towards women and think they don't deserve to screw the dominatrix who punishes them.
Having operating a sucessful FemDom site for 15 years, I have to disagree that sex doesn't have a place in FemDom. It doesn't mean the man simply gets to turn around and screw the Dom who just punished him. You are correct, that is a turn off to the FemDom fan. However, being forced to provide oral to her...or allowed to have sex with her knowing that the consequence will be that he is castrated immediately afterwards...those are big turn ons. The sex in my videos goes over well with hard core FemDom fans. There just has to be a cacth.

The reason that not all FemDom traffic converts well is that there are a lot of people shooting it that do not understand it. A person has to be a real to life bdsm kinkster to get it.

Cheyenne

MsCheyenne 01-15-2011 05:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamis (Post 17842354)
there are tons of femdom sites out there.

the problem is that extreme-board.com has all their stolen content with links to oron.com and sharingmatrix, filesonic, etc..

so people hardly pay for extreme stuff or BDSM stuff anymore, its all for free, TERA BYTES are being posted every single day, and if the sponsors take the links down, they re-post them again in seconds, using a script for that. So no worries for them...

Check duke from duke dollars, who finished paying extreme-board a fee to prevent them posting the shitty facial abuse content with the giant redhead touching duke's cock in the double penetration.

Quite ridicolous, but this is the current situation of the adult biz 2011.

Angry jew cat your avatar really sucks, fucker. I always knew that extreme-Jews (sionists) and extreme nazis are the same shit. And don't say that it's a parody/joke or some shitty excuse.

Period.
I have an employee that does nothing but have pirated content removed. Please tell me, how did this man manage to get extreme board to take a fee to block their content from getting posted? That would be a dream. It takes hours out of our day to track down and remove content. Extreme board is the worst.

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 05:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 17846563)
I have an employee that does nothing but have pirated content removed. Please tell me, how did this man manage to get extreme board to take a fee to block their content from getting posted? That would be a dream. It takes hours out of our day to track down and remove content. Extreme board is the worst.
He paid them to put up his ads. In return they took down his stuff. But another way of looking at it is that Duke Dollars is indirectly financing the free distribution of your members area by purchasing ads from them. If they couldn't pay their server bill there would be no Extreme-Board.

Just a sec and I'll find you the thread discussing it.

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 06:04 AM
Here you go.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=1002481

http://gofuckyourself.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=58

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-15-2011 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 17846558)
Having operating a sucessful FemDom site for 15 years, I have to disagree that sex doesn't have a place in FemDom. It doesn't mean the man simply gets to turn around and screw the Dom who just punished him. You are correct, that is a turn off to the FemDom fan. However, being forced to provide oral to her...or allowed to have sex with her knowing that the consequence will be that he is castrated immediately afterwards...those are big turn ons. The sex in my videos goes over well with hard core FemDom fans. There just has to be a cacth.

The reason that not all FemDom traffic converts well is that there are a lot of people shooting it that do not understand it. A person has to be a real to life bdsm kinkster to get it.

Cheyenne
And how about missing out on the obvious sex acts? Who said HE had to fuck HER? :1orglaugh

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-15-2011 06:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17846571)
He paid them to put up his ads. In return they took down his stuff. But another way of looking at it is that Duke Dollars is indirectly financing the free distribution of your members area by purchasing ads from them. If they couldn't pay their server bill there would be no Extreme-Board.

Just a sec and I'll find you the thread discussing it.
You could probably damn near host extreme-board on a $10/month package. Not like they're burning up tons of bandwidth. Everything is hosted off-site from these forums... :2 cents:

signupdamnit 01-15-2011 06:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17846607)
You could probably damn near host extreme-board on a $10/month package. Not like they're burning up tons of bandwidth. Everything is hosted off-site from these forums... :2 cents:
Actually that's not true. Very busy ones do take up a lot of resources. The database alone can become huge and all the queries and the bandwidth is still likely a lot higher than you think. We might not be talking $xxxx but definitely $xxx. It's a very busy forum.

MsCheyenne 01-15-2011 08:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17846604)
And how about missing out on the obvious sex acts? Who said HE had to fuck HER? :1orglaugh
For the first 10 years I filmed FemDom I did not film any female nudity or sex acts. As a lifestlye and professional Dom I was very traditional and didn't want my Sm friends or clients to expect sexual acts with me. When I moved on to full time film making I decided to bump it up a notch and include sex acts, from oral to ass worship to foot jobs, forced milking, male/male bi and f/m intercourse. It was WILDLY received. My sales went from being pretty good to off the charts. As long as it is true to the niche, sex does help sales in FemDom. At least that has been my first hand experience over 15 years.

Thanks for the advice on extreme-board.

Cheyenne

bns666 01-15-2011 08:45 AM
as mix in sex into femdom i was referring to male sub penetrating dominatrix, that part seems to turn off the hard core femdom fans.

everything else listed does convert good.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 01-15-2011 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsCheyenne (Post 17846737)
For the first 10 years I filmed FemDom I did not film any female nudity or sex acts. As a lifestlye and professional Dom I was very traditional and didn't want my Sm friends or clients to expect sexual acts with me. When I moved on to full time film making I decided to bump it up a notch and include sex acts, from oral to ass worship to foot jobs, forced milking, male/male bi and f/m intercourse. It was WILDLY received. My sales went from being pretty good to off the charts. As long as it is true to the niche, sex does help sales in FemDom. At least that has been my first hand experience over 15 years.

Thanks for the advice on extreme-board.

Cheyenne
I was more refering to HER fucking HIM, than no sex at all... :2 cents:

CamTraffic 01-15-2011 09:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17842653)
I don't know if these guys have what you need, but they take their site very seriously.

http://deadlydommes.com/
oh yeah, you can tell by the amount of leeks they have in the bottom page....

Deckard 01-15-2011 10:04 AM
Don't know if this is what you need, but they take their site very seriously.
Old school BDSM and Bondage... fetishnation.com
Promote via CCBill at twistedpartners.com

Pornopat 01-15-2011 10:36 AM
check out www.harshhandjobs.com from www.bastabucks.com

MsCheyenne 01-15-2011 10:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17846813)
I was more refering to HER fucking HIM, than no sex at all... :2 cents:
Do you mean strap on? Fucking his face that has a dildo strapped to it..fucking his ass with a dildo strapped to her...fucking his cock with a metal rod....or Her fucking his cock with his vagina. All of these are staples on ClubDom. If you have any more kinky ideas please feel free to share. :-)


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