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PornGreenDavidK 01-13-2011 12:00 PM

Paxum VS Payoneer or what ever
 
Which one is everyone using for payouts these days? And what are your opinions. Are there any red flags being put up from either one?

RuthB 01-13-2011 12:13 PM

Hi David,

We have over 160 adult sponsor programs, numerous hosting companies, traffic sellers, website designers and more using Paxum as a payment option.

Thousands of personal clients are using our services, and I invite you to signup and give us a try yourself. It's fast, free, and easy to signup, you're verified within 24 hours and you can load your account through Wire, Check, and ACH (in US).

Our fees are located here - https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...views/fees.xsl

I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, so feel free to hit me up anytime :thumbsup

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth :)

Chris 01-13-2011 12:17 PM

What ruth said :D

Chosen 01-13-2011 05:11 PM

Many sponsors using Paxum now, and some of them using Payoneer.
Payoneer fees suck...

Kiopa_Matt 01-13-2011 05:17 PM

Paxum.

Payoneer would probably get more business if they actually let people join from their website. I still don't get that -- "here's an awesome payment solution, but we're not going to let you signup by yourself. Find one of our partners instead!"

Hermes 01-13-2011 06:55 PM

List of most Paxum sponsors
List of most Payoneer sponsors

So I think most make the decicion based on what they need and Can use.

Slick 01-13-2011 06:57 PM

Sorry i messed up and can't edit my post. I meant to say alert pay and not payoneer !!

Payoneer is just fine :)

femdomdestiny 01-13-2011 07:44 PM

paxum,of course

Cyber Fucker 01-13-2011 08:44 PM

It looks like paxum is the winner so far. Personally I like old-fashioned wires.

Yngwie 01-14-2011 01:50 AM

And I'm working my ass off trying to get mainstream sponsor to use us. :)

BoardiesBitch 01-14-2011 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17843080)
Paxum.

Payoneer would probably get more business if they actually let people join from their website. I still don't get that -- "here's an awesome payment solution, but we're not going to let you signup by yourself. Find one of our partners instead!"


I like both Paxum and Payoneer, Paxum is a great simple solution, Payoneer is a bit more expensive.

but i think Payoneer is just not that interested in going into adult, probably only large companies :

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=40...&&u=paxum.com&

Odysseus 01-14-2011 05:01 AM

We need both..

Sid70 01-14-2011 06:14 AM

Consider im not using Paxum but if i had to it would be no doubt id sign up with them, not Playoneer.

michael.kickass 01-14-2011 08:33 AM

Paxum is better. :2 cents:

Talia_Payoneer 01-17-2011 09:21 AM

Payoneer is a leading provider of Payout for web based business worldwide. We support hundreds of companies in a variety of industries with their payout needs.

Recently, we significantly increased our Portfolio in order to support the entertainment industry, adding over 200 companies that will be paying their affiliates, models, and studios through us as.

Many of these companies are industry monoliths who have moved to Payoneer to support their payout needs.

If you are interested in a Payoneer Account please feel free to contact me at [email protected]

I promise my team and I will work hard to secure and retain your business. =)

Klen 01-17-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17850194)
Payoneer is a leading provider of Payout for web based business worldwide. We support hundreds of companies in a variety of industries with their payout needs.

Recently, we significantly increased our Portfolio in order to support the entertainment industry, adding over 200 companies that will be paying their affiliates, models, and studios through us as.

Many of these companies are industry monoliths who have moved to Payoneer to support their payout needs.

If you are interested in a Payoneer Account please feel free to contact me at [email protected]

I promise my team and I will work hard to secure and retain your business. =)

I was doing some biz today and was thinking about my finances,while i remembered funny thing claimed by payoneer support-how if my payoneer card is stolen,they will get my money back,which completely doesn't have sense since i dont see how you can get back money which is stolen.Are you going to find a thief and ask him nicely to return money to me?Lol.

richart3 01-17-2011 09:54 AM

payoneer is good!

tranza 01-17-2011 10:00 AM

I still haven't got my Paxum card. Over a month of wait now.

:(

RuthB 01-17-2011 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 17850261)
I still haven't got my Paxum card. Over a month of wait now.

:(

I'll hit you up on ICQ tranza so we can look into that for you. Usually we ask you to allow 4-6 weeks delivery for International clients, and I know you're in Brazil so that could be why it's not there yet.

Hitting you up now. :thumbsup

Talia_Payoneer 01-17-2011 02:14 PM

Hi,

First off, all MasterCard are insured. If you report card loss or theft and open a claim, MasterCard will investigate and handle accordingly. It is all handled on a case by case scenario, but if they believe it truly is fraud they will fund your card with the money.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17850220)
I was doing some biz today and was thinking about my finances,while i remembered funny thing claimed by payoneer support-how if my payoneer card is stolen,they will get my money back,which completely doesn't have sense since i dont see how you can get back money which is stolen.Are you going to find a thief and ask him nicely to return money to me?Lol.


Talia_Payoneer 01-17-2011 02:15 PM

Ruth! It was a pleasure to meet you in Vegas. Take care, Pearl

RuthB 01-17-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17850860)
Ruth! It was a pleasure to meet you in Vegas. Take care, Pearl

Thanks Pearl! It was great to meet you too! :upsidedow :thumbsup

Klen 01-17-2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17850855)
Hi,

First off, all MasterCard are insured. If you report card loss or theft and open a claim, MasterCard will investigate and handle accordingly. It is all handled on a case by case scenario, but if they believe it truly is fraud they will fund your card with the money.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Well that have sense if for example someone steal my cc number and use it to buy something on internet,then mastercard can reverse transaction,but if someone steal physical card and withdraw money on ATM i doubt anything can be done.

Klen 01-17-2011 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17850871)
Thanks Pearl! It was great to meet you too! :upsidedow :thumbsup

Did you banged her behind doors :upsidedow

2intense 01-17-2011 02:25 PM

my cam sponsors dont use PAXUM ,anyway payoneer sucks

blonda80 01-17-2011 02:31 PM

I like Paxum

nikki99 01-17-2011 02:59 PM

Paxum :)

Talia_Payoneer 01-17-2011 03:42 PM

2intense, I'm open to your feedback. Please let me know what we can improve.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2intense (Post 17850876)
my cam sponsors dont use PAXUM ,anyway payoneer sucks


willwank 01-17-2011 03:59 PM

Paxum for acceptability, ease, straightforwardness and low fees
EMC2/I-Payouts for tons of options

No need for Payoneer

Adraco 01-17-2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17851035)
2intense, I'm open to your feedback. Please let me know what we can improve.

Suggestions for improvements:

1. Fee structure.
Right now it's very many different fees and me among others get upset when I do not understand what I'm paying for. I have my physical Payoneer card from AWE and all other accounts are connected to it as secondaries. An example, being paid from AWE costs me $1 for 2 businessdays payment, or $3 for 2 hours alternative. Being paid from Moneytree costs me $2 / $4 and being paid from FPCtraffic costs me $3 / $5. it just pisses me off to not be able to see those terms somewhere. Having a fee is one thing, but not showing it is completely different. It feels very unfair to have to wait for a payment, and first then be told how much it's going to cost you to get your money. Either make it a standardized fee, say $2 per payment, or create a tool or something where I can enter a sponsor name and see ow muh itäs going to cost me.

2. Allow for yearly payment of the fee.
The need of having to have money present to pay $2 per month just feels silly. Charge me $24 at the beginning of each year and be done with it. Or at least give us the option to choose.

3. Long response times
My primary cam sponsor have been claiming to be in the process of setting up things with you. But that has been going on for three months now and they keep telling me you guys are dragging your feet and being non-responsive or at the very least taking very long time to return answers.

4. The point of sales charge
Now, who thought up this? I'm sure it sounds like a great idea in a boarroom, but sure do piss off the people who use the product. I tried to pay $500 to my hosting company for one of my servers, and it wouldn't let me. Why? Because they system wanted to charge me $7.50 for the transaction. So when me and my host tried $490 instead, it went through. Now, my card balance is carried in USD, I'm being paid in USD from the sponsors but still have to pay an out of the country charge when paying to an American company in USD??? It sure feels like I'm being scammed on this one!

5. ACH
You, or at least this nick, mentioned somewhere earlier that one could, on a case by case basis, get an ACH account number connected to one's Payoneer account. What's the charges for such a setup, how long time does it take and where could I read more about it? Also, withdrawal from my card to my regular bank account. Without paying an amazing number of different fees, please!

That's a good start. Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions!

Klen 01-17-2011 04:27 PM

ACH charge is 20$ yearly,and 2% fee for receiving.I didnt used it since i opened it since that fee plus atm withdraw fee is way way toobig.

Chosen 01-18-2011 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17851146)
ACH charge is 20$ yearly,and 2% fee for receiving.I didnt used it since i opened it since that fee plus atm withdraw fee is way way toobig.

Fuck... I thought it is free... Won't request one for myself then...

Denny 01-18-2011 03:28 AM

Paxum for sure :pimp If there are options I prefer:

1. Paxum
2. Paypal
3. Check
4. Payoneer
5. Wire (around $30+ fee)

Talia_Payoneer 01-18-2011 11:23 AM

Adraco, I appreciate this. I will soak this in and relay this to my team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adraco (Post 17851140)
Suggestions for improvements:

1. Fee structure.
Right now it's very many different fees and me among others get upset when I do not understand what I'm paying for. I have my physical Payoneer card from AWE and all other accounts are connected to it as secondaries. An example, being paid from AWE costs me $1 for 2 businessdays payment, or $3 for 2 hours alternative. Being paid from Moneytree costs me $2 / $4 and being paid from FPCtraffic costs me $3 / $5. it just pisses me off to not be able to see those terms somewhere. Having a fee is one thing, but not showing it is completely different. It feels very unfair to have to wait for a payment, and first then be told how much it's going to cost you to get your money. Either make it a standardized fee, say $2 per payment, or create a tool or something where I can enter a sponsor name and see ow muh itäs going to cost me.

2. Allow for yearly payment of the fee.
The need of having to have money present to pay $2 per month just feels silly. Charge me $24 at the beginning of each year and be done with it. Or at least give us the option to choose.

3. Long response times
My primary cam sponsor have been claiming to be in the process of setting up things with you. But that has been going on for three months now and they keep telling me you guys are dragging your feet and being non-responsive or at the very least taking very long time to return answers.

4. The point of sales charge
Now, who thought up this? I'm sure it sounds like a great idea in a boarroom, but sure do piss off the people who use the product. I tried to pay $500 to my hosting company for one of my servers, and it wouldn't let me. Why? Because they system wanted to charge me $7.50 for the transaction. So when me and my host tried $490 instead, it went through. Now, my card balance is carried in USD, I'm being paid in USD from the sponsors but still have to pay an out of the country charge when paying to an American company in USD??? It sure feels like I'm being scammed on this one!

5. ACH
You, or at least this nick, mentioned somewhere earlier that one could, on a case by case basis, get an ACH account number connected to one's Payoneer account. What's the charges for such a setup, how long time does it take and where could I read more about it? Also, withdrawal from my card to my regular bank account. Without paying an amazing number of different fees, please!

That's a good start. Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions!


Milfer 01-20-2011 10:15 AM

Paxum is a shit payment processor. My account was verified 10 days ago, but my paxum card is not printed yet let alone shipped to me. And that too had to be found out after logging into my paxum account, as they don't inform via email. Even though I am subscribe to every notification option in my account.

As for the payoneer, it is the best payment processor I have ever used. They immediately keep you informed about the status of your account, via email. Like when I add funds via my credit card, they will send a confirmation email right away. And then once the funds added to my card, they will again send an email to inform that funds are added. Their online support and support ticket system is the best.


I am no way associated with payoneer, but just wanted to share my experience with both of them. Good Luck

RuthB 01-20-2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milfer (Post 17857882)
Paxum is a shit payment processor. My account was verified 10 days ago, but my paxum card is not printed yet let alone shipped to me. And that too had to be found out after logging into my paxum account, as they don't inform via email. Even though I am subscribe to every notification option in my account.

As for the payoneer, it is the best payment processor I have ever used. They immediately keep you informed about the status of you account, via email. Like when I add funds via my credit card, they will send a confirmation email right away. And then once the funds added to my card, they will again send an email to inform that funds are added. Their online support and support ticket system is the best.


I am no way associated with payoneer, but just wanted to share my experience with both of them. Good Luck

Hi there, I'm sorry you feel you had a negative experience with Paxum. Once you submit your application request for a Paxum card to be sent to you it is printed (usually takes about a week) and then shipped to you (usually takes about 1-2 weeks for delivery in North America).

We print/ship in batches, so it usually depends on which day of the week you submit your request as to when the card would be completed and shipped to you.

I'm unsure why you did not receive notifications regarding your account verification since our system will email you to inform you your account is approved/verified.

We do not send you a notification about loading funds to your credit card since the credit card load is instant with Paxum, and you don't have to wait at all for the funds to be available on your Paxum CC for withdrawal, since they are immediately there for you to access.

We send notifications when funds are loaded to your ewallet, and when you send funds via P2P to another Paxum user. You can access your notification alerts inside your Paxum account admin under My Account - Profile Settings - and then under the Account Information section 'Notifications' where you have a number of options you can select/deselect.

I'd be happy to help you out on a personal basis, simply get in touch with me!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth :thumbsup

Milfer 01-20-2011 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuthB (Post 17857922)
Hi there, I'm sorry you feel you had a negative experience with Paxum. Once you submit your application request for a Paxum card to be sent to you it is printed (usually takes about a week) and then shipped to you (usually takes about 1-2 weeks for delivery in North America).

We print/ship in batches, so it usually depends on which day of the week you submit your request as to when the card would be completed and shipped to you.

I'm unsure why you did not receive notifications regarding your account verification since our system will email you to inform you your account is approved/verified.

We do not send you a notification about loading funds to your credit card since the credit card load is instant with Paxum, and you don't have to wait at all for the funds to be available on your Paxum CC for withdrawal, since they are immediately there for you to access.

We send notifications when funds are loaded to your ewallet, and when you send funds via P2P to another Paxum user. You can access your notification alerts inside your Paxum account admin under My Account - Profile Settings - and then under the Account Information section 'Notifications' where you have a number of options you can select/deselect.

I'd be happy to help you out on a personal basis, simply get in touch with me!

ICQ #233-854-608
Email [email protected]

Ruth :thumbsup

all help I need is to have my card get to me on time, if you really want to help me, send me an email at enovatit(at)gmail.com

RuthB 01-20-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milfer (Post 17857983)
all help I need is to have my card get to me on time, if you really want to help me, send me an email at enovatit(at)gmail.com

Email sent :thumbsup

Chosen 01-20-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milfer (Post 17857882)
Paxum is a shit payment processor. My account was verified 10 days ago, but my paxum card is not printed yet let alone shipped to me. And that too had to be found out after logging into my paxum account, as they don't inform via email. Even though I am subscribe to every notification option in my account.

As for the payoneer, it is the best payment processor I have ever used. They immediately keep you informed about the status of your account, via email. Like when I add funds via my credit card, they will send a confirmation email right away. And then once the funds added to my card, they will again send an email to inform that funds are added. Their online support and support ticket system is the best.


I am no way associated with payoneer, but just wanted to share my experience with both of them. Good Luck

I just LoL'd :1orglaugh
It only took TWO WEEKS and about ten one way letters from me to Payoneer support to get my account approved and card sent to me...

Chosen 01-20-2011 11:18 AM

And Paxum always sending email notifications when you get money from someone, and when you send them as well.

Inter-Sex 01-20-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chosen (Post 17858049)
And Paxum always sending email notifications when you get money from someone, and when you send them as well.

Yes thats great at Paxum, but tbh personally i dislike it that in the e-mails the amounts are mentioned.
It would be great if they could add a function to have at least the option to disable/enable that. :2 cents:

~ Renaldo,

Agent 488 01-20-2011 03:58 PM

any feedback from program owners?

willwank 01-20-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milfer (Post 17857882)
Paxum is a shit payment processor. My account was verified 10 days ago, but my paxum card is not printed yet let alone shipped to me. And that too had to be found out after logging into my paxum account, as they don't inform via email. Even though I am subscribe to every notification option in my account.

As for the payoneer, it is the best payment processor I have ever used. They immediately keep you informed about the status of your account, via email. Like when I add funds via my credit card, they will send a confirmation email right away. And then once the funds added to my card, they will again send an email to inform that funds are added. Their online support and support ticket system is the best.


I am no way associated with payoneer, but just wanted to share my experience with both of them. Good Luck

I can send you e-mails too. Should be around 2 bucks a pop, let me know.


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