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andrej_NDC 01-17-2011 10:40 AM

Whats the average price of medical insurance in the states?
 
I'm talking about some family package and full coverage, something what pays for the basic stuff, but also surgeries, etc. Are we talking hundreds or thousands a month?

The Heron 01-17-2011 12:32 PM

Depends on the state first of all and then the coverage so you'd be best served just doing a google search for the area you are interested in.

_Richard_ 01-17-2011 12:36 PM

believe the scientific answer for this is 'an arm and a leg'

DateDoc 01-17-2011 12:37 PM

On average, the US family pays $13,375 for insurance per year. Those are 2009 numbers so it is probably higher now. http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ce-costs_N.htm

96ukssob 01-17-2011 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17850622)
On average, the US family pays $13,375 for insurance per year. Those are 2009 numbers so it is probably higher now. http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...ce-costs_N.htm

my :2 cents: is probably around $16,000 to $20,000 per year now for a family (2 adults + 1 or 2 kids)... if not more.

i was just looking at the new rates and on my plan would be around $800/mo for family benefits. you can get crazy with $0 deductibles, better prescription coverage, eye, dental (mine covers basic dental) and life, but that would probably set you back around $1,200 to $1500/mo

LauraLee 01-17-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17850620)
believe the scientific answer for this is 'an arm and a leg'

Sounds right to me!

Actually it depends greatly on the following:
-State you get coverage in
-The genders in your family/group
-The ages in your family/group

TheSenator 01-17-2011 12:51 PM

NJ HMO 1700.00 for a family of five.

20,400 a year! I love America!

Vendzilla 01-17-2011 12:52 PM

When I was in the union in the 80's, I didn't pay for anything, I miss that. NO payments, NO deductibles, didn't pay for meds either, was pretty sweet

DateDoc 01-17-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17850661)
When I was in the union in the 80's, I didn't pay for anything, I miss that. NO payments, NO deductibles, didn't pay for meds either, was pretty sweet

When I worked for DJT my health insurance was $3/paycheck. Covered family for health, dental and life insurance.

spazlabz 01-17-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17850661)
When I was in the union in the 80's, I didn't pay for anything, I miss that. NO payments, NO deductibles, didn't pay for meds either, was pretty sweet

Yup, I was UAW in Ohio and it was sweet. The problem is that jobs that offer any kind of decent health insurance to their employees without the employee having to pay a lot are getting rarer and rarer by the month.

a full time job that pays the bills and offers benefits are about as common as white buffalo now in the US, it is putting more and more pressure on the middle class and working poor

andrej_NDC 01-17-2011 01:04 PM

Thanks, that helps a lot. And I'm interrested mainly in 3 states, NY, FL or CA.

Sunny Day 01-17-2011 01:15 PM

Med Insurance
 
With a pre-existing condition, it's almost cheaper to pay for ANY surgery. My only hope is Obamacare stays as law. Otherwise, I'm facing a surgery for more than I've made in my entire life.

andrej_NDC 01-17-2011 01:22 PM

Just looking at some online rates and HMO type of insurance sounds interesting. With no deductibles($500-700 a month for 1 parent and 2 kids). Does it cover all surgeries that need to be done to save a life? If people sign the papers as 100% healthy?

Daddy Big Nuts 01-17-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17850698)
Thanks, that helps a lot. And I'm interrested mainly in 3 states, NY, FL or CA.

I'm in florida. Me, wifey, baby = $1200/month PPO $500 Deductable

Vendzilla 01-17-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by spazlabz (Post 17850682)
Yup, I was UAW in Ohio and it was sweet. The problem is that jobs that offer any kind of decent health insurance to their employees without the employee having to pay a lot are getting rarer and rarer by the month.

a full time job that pays the bills and offers benefits are about as common as white buffalo now in the US, it is putting more and more pressure on the middle class and working poor

I was lucky raising my daughter with a union job, insurance was never an issue. She found out when she got out of the Navy that she was covered with medical for 5 years, which will be a big help as she goes to school.

RycEric 01-17-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17850364)
I'm talking about some family package and full coverage, something what pays for the basic stuff, but also surgeries, etc. Are we talking hundreds or thousands a month?

You have to go through an underwriting process. Humana, for example, wanted over $5k a month with two months pre-paid for 4 employees (minimum requirement). That's group.

PornMD 01-17-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17850659)
NJ HMO 1700.00 for a family of five.

20,400 a year! I love America!

If you're lucky enough to live 50 years once achieving the family of 5, you can rest peacefully knowing that you've paid a million dollars for your health insurance. :(

suesheboy 01-17-2011 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17850698)
Thanks, that helps a lot. And I'm interrested mainly in 3 states, NY, FL or CA.

3 very different states. Florida is the cheapest with the lowest taxes, but pays the poorest.

cybermike 01-17-2011 03:22 PM

Ny is pretty damn expensive for even a 2k high deductible plan :(

Supz 01-17-2011 03:25 PM

for a family, good insurance. in the XXXX range for sure. 1200-1500

topnotch, standup guy 01-17-2011 04:27 PM

It's pretty much the same as when shopping for a yacht. If you have to ask what it costs, you can't afford it :(
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Morgan 01-17-2011 11:05 PM

I pay around 1k per month for my wife and I.

will76 01-17-2011 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17850364)
I'm talking about some family package and full coverage, something what pays for the basic stuff, but also surgeries, etc. Are we talking hundreds or thousands a month?

that's a very vague question. Family of 5, a married couple, or just solo person. Person in good health, avg or bad? no deductible or high deductible ?

To answer your question it could be $100 - $5,000.


Need more details.

garce 01-17-2011 11:15 PM

Sorry, friends. This is a heartbreaking thread.

The_Photographer 01-18-2011 04:44 AM

If you have a decent office job, you pay nothing. Your employer usually picks it up.

If you are poor, you go to the emergency room and the hospital is stuck with the bill.

If you self employed, you have two options:
-regular plan that will cost about $400-600 for you
-high deductible plan where you are responsible for the first X,XXX/year of health cost, but everything after that is covered. This sort of plan will cost $150 or so/month.

andrej_NDC 01-18-2011 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17850750)
Just looking at some online rates and HMO type of insurance sounds interesting. With no deductibles($500-700 a month for 1 parent and 2 kids). Does it cover all surgeries that need to be done to save a life? If people sign the papers as 100% healthy?

Thanks a lot, guys, what about the above question?

Nurgle 01-18-2011 05:08 AM

fucking hilarous what you guys pay / month we pay per year in Australia.

will76 01-18-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurgle (Post 17852045)
fucking hilarous what you guys pay / month we pay per year in Australia.

How much you do you pay in income tax ????

Paul Markham 01-18-2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17850661)
When I was in the union in the 80's, I didn't pay for anything, I miss that. NO payments, NO deductibles, didn't pay for meds either, was pretty sweet

Which is why so many jobs disappeared from the US. Someone has to pay and in the end it comes out of wages and into the price of the goods.

I pay nothing and go to the hospital for check ups once every 2 months. I'm retired and after a lifetime of paying for health it's now free. My cure for cancer was also done on the CZ National Health scheme.

IMO we pay too little for medical insurance here and facilities are basic unless you're in grave danger. Like Eva and I were.

woj 01-18-2011 10:34 AM

self insurance FTW :thumbsup

pornguy 01-18-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunny Day (Post 17850727)
With a pre-existing condition, it's almost cheaper to pay for ANY surgery. My only hope is Obamacare stays as law. Otherwise, I'm facing a surgery for more than I've made in my entire life.

Consider going to another country.

My wife had eye surgery in 2001 cost about 12k. Insurance picked up about 9 so it was not bad. Now she needs the other eye done. Cost in the US is more than 20k for ambulatory. means she walks in and walks out same day. Instead she is going to Cuba. ( She is from there ). The best Hospital in the country will do it for 2.5k. 3 days in the hospital 7 in a hotel and check ups daily for a total of 10 days care.

ReGGs 01-18-2011 10:41 AM

I can't understand for the life of me how a family of 4 is paying 800 dollars a month. I pay 100$ for decent coverage. Even if you had full coverage for your kids and just the regular for your wife I would assume that couldn't be more than 600 (100 per adult 200 per kid.) Just seems like people are getting ripped off.

AmeliaG 01-18-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Photographer (Post 17852013)
If you have a decent office job, you pay nothing. Your employer usually picks it up.

If you are poor, you go to the emergency room and the hospital is stuck with the bill.

If you self employed, you have two options:
-regular plan that will cost about $400-600 for you
-high deductible plan where you are responsible for the first X,XXX/year of health cost, but everything after that is covered. This sort of plan will cost $150 or so/month.


Or you can pay for medical care, instead of making insurance company middlemen rich.

BlackCrayon 01-18-2011 11:12 AM

some people are paying more for insurance than the average canadian making 50k/year pays in income taxes total. sad situation. i really hope the care and treatment you get is above and beyond and that the insurance companies don't dare dick you around after paying such insane sums.

LeRoy 01-18-2011 11:13 AM

I got it made :)

DTI Cash pays 100%. For the whole family :thumbsup:thumbsup

I'm at Kaiser so no complaints. If I need to I can switch to PPO also.

kristin 01-18-2011 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 17850641)
my :2 cents: is probably around $16,000 to $20,000 per year now for a family (2 adults + 1 or 2 kids)... if not more.

i was just looking at the new rates and on my plan would be around $800/mo for family benefits. you can get crazy with $0 deductibles, better prescription coverage, eye, dental (mine covers basic dental) and life, but that would probably set you back around $1,200 to $1500/mo

I have insurance covered by TB but I pay for my husband and kid's - $10k/year. Oy vey.

AndreaM 01-18-2011 11:20 AM

We have insurance through my husbands work, union, via the county/state. For our family of 4 our plan costs (though is 100% covered) about $1300/month. I still have co-pays on things ranging from $5 to $75. I totally understand why most people have no health insurance here. :(

_Richard_ 01-18-2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReGGs (Post 17852707)
I can't understand for the life of me how a family of 4 is paying 800 dollars a month. I pay 100$ for decent coverage. Even if you had full coverage for your kids and just the regular for your wife I would assume that couldn't be more than 600 (100 per adult 200 per kid.) Just seems like people are getting ripped off.

in Canada my rates are $58 per month, for spouse i think it's $75, for full family its $108

canadian.

baddog 01-18-2011 11:27 AM

My corp pays $1,466/mo for group health and $46/mo for group dental. Covers me, employee, their family. We have a $15 co-pay, no deductibles.

spazlabz 01-18-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17852698)
Consider going to another country.

My wife had eye surgery in 2001 cost about 12k. Insurance picked up about 9 so it was not bad. Now she needs the other eye done. Cost in the US is more than 20k for ambulatory. means she walks in and walks out same day. Instead she is going to Cuba. ( She is from there ). The best Hospital in the country will do it for 2.5k. 3 days in the hospital 7 in a hotel and check ups daily for a total of 10 days care.

I'm jealous. I have keratoconus in both eyes bad enough that they both require surgery. Cornea replacement in the left and a round stint in the right to prevent it from getting worse. Neither are 'correctable' with glasses but I would be considered a 'cash patient' which means I would have to shit a healthy $50K combined costs before they started cutting

I squint a lot :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

IllTestYourGirls 01-18-2011 12:10 PM

Well since the public sector has to compensate for the insanely low price fixes the government puts on pay outs for medicare/aid, insurance prices will just continue to go up and up and up.

Sid70 01-18-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17850659)
NJ HMO 1700.00 for a family of five.

20,400 a year! I love America!

If you still can pay that it means you earrn at least 5 times more, if so, why complain? Majority of the world earn this much for a life time.

andrej_NDC 01-19-2011 11:58 AM

Found out some interresting stuff. For a family of 3, tourists, non-US citizens, a $1mil health insurance for 6 months costs only $1600, with no deductibles, insurance covers 90% of the first $5k and 100% of the rest, until $1mil. Thats crazy, its better to stay a non-US citizen to get better threatment than an US citizen? And you can renew this insurance until forever, too.

kristin 01-19-2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 17855475)
Found out some interresting stuff. For a family of 3, tourists, non-US citizens, a $1mil health insurance for 6 months costs only $1600, with no deductibles, insurance covers 90% of the first $5k and 100% of the rest, until $1mil. Thats crazy, its better to stay a non-US citizen to get better threatment than an US citizen? And you can renew this insurance until forever, too.

That's fucked up.

seeandsee 01-19-2011 12:02 PM

I get free insurance for now

jesse_adultdatingdollars 01-19-2011 12:23 PM

I pay $400 a month for mine.

Vendzilla 01-19-2011 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17852679)
Which is why so many jobs disappeared from the US. Someone has to pay and in the end it comes out of wages and into the price of the goods.

I pay nothing and go to the hospital for check ups once every 2 months. I'm retired and after a lifetime of paying for health it's now free. My cure for cancer was also done on the CZ National Health scheme.

IMO we pay too little for medical insurance here and facilities are basic unless you're in grave danger. Like Eva and I were.

That same union now is not paying 100% for things

Nurgle 01-19-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17852366)
How much you do you pay in income tax ????

a reasonable amount but then not a huge amount extra than what many americans on the same wage would pay.

Id take our tax / medical system any day over the nonsense you guys have over there.

Sunny Day 01-19-2011 05:38 PM

I used to be in a union. Go to the doc in January, pay the visit in full. After that everything was covered 100% for the rest of the year.
Later I worked at a small business. The owner had pooled with a few other small businesses to self insure. I can't remember what big insurance company to actually manage the plan, but their self insured company was registered in the Netherlands Antilles. So every winter, they got a tax deductible trip to the annual meeting.


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