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Wizzo 03-04-2011 12:30 PM

LED-LCD or Plasma?
 
Its time to pull the trigger on a new TV, should I go LED-LCD or Plasma?

Juicy D. Links 03-04-2011 12:35 PM

LED

TRUST me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SomeCreep 03-04-2011 12:35 PM

If the room is well lit, go with an LED-LCD with a matte surface. That will be very good for resisting glare. If the room is dark and the tv will be watched mainly at night with the lights off, then go with a glossy screen plasma.

lazycash 03-04-2011 12:37 PM

Definitely LED

Jman 03-04-2011 12:38 PM

Thanks for the post Wizzo as I'm going to shop for one today ;-)

Jim_Gunn 03-04-2011 12:48 PM

LCD or LED. Plasmas suck. With an LCD the image is right there on top of the screen like it is on a hi-res computer monitor. An LCD also doubles as a computer monitor btw if you hook up a media server to it. With plasmas, you are essentially looking through a glass window at the video image behind the glass. Watch an LCD and plasma showing the same tv show side by side and there is no comparison.

Puremeds-J 03-04-2011 12:51 PM

I'd say LED

Cyandin 03-04-2011 12:53 PM

I ALWAYS watch my movies with the room as dark as possible. That said plasma is the best for me, plus it's way more affordable. A 50" 1080p Samsung is only $800 at Best Buy. Nice. :2 cents:

just a punk 03-04-2011 12:54 PM

Plasma is dead.

mynameisjim 03-04-2011 01:03 PM

I have both and I prefer the plasma. The LED does have a nice picture though and you can you carry it in your house by yourself and set it up. A plasma is real pain to move around.

Just a quick note, plasma has always been the superior technology and LCD has been trying to match it. With LED they are very close but the reason LCDs have been pushed is because they are cheaper and easier to produce and ship. Now, your personal preference may be different, but plasma is the better imaging technology even though most people think it's old or outdated.

Glare can be an issue with plasma, but viewing angle is an issue with LED. So if you have a big room with chairs off to the side, they won't be used for watching an LED. So you have decide which is better for your room and viewing style.

cooldude7 03-04-2011 01:15 PM

i love crt tv.

Blake Rusko 03-04-2011 01:25 PM

LED ALL THE WAY! I have a 60in Plasma (2 years old) and the new LED's look twice as good. Especially if your a gamer.

bronco67 03-04-2011 01:26 PM

I have a 55 inch LEd, and a 32 incher for my monitor.

Great picture. They say the blacks are better on Plasma, but unless you're a die-hard cinephile tech freak, then don't worry about it.

Plasma is a dying technology. Don't buy into that. It's also super heavy, generates a lot of heat and sucks up more power. Not a smart buy.

qwe 03-04-2011 01:46 PM

plasma has the best picture quality hands down, people who say otherwise don't know much about tv's.... you only buy LED if your room is bright

bronco67 03-04-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 17957919)
plasma has the best picture quality hands down, people who say otherwise don't know much about tv's.... you only buy LED if your room is bright

yeah, that's the only reason...

ShellyCrash 03-04-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Rusko (Post 17957864)
LED ALL THE WAY! I have a 60in Plasma (2 years old) and the new LED's look twice as good. Especially if your a gamer.

I'm in the same boat. Got a plasma cause I wanted the ambilight. I fucking LOVE the ambilight, but the plasma itself is kinda eh. I know the big complaint w/ LCDs is the black isn't black enough, but sometimes with the plasma the picture looks a little too dark.

I'm not a big gamer but dark games like the Dead Space series I can't see shit. I mean, I know that's sorta the point but I really can't see shit. :1orglaugh

When this TV croaks probably going to go LED. I've got a few grand in it so I'm going to ride it out, no need to upgrade at the moment for me.

psili 03-04-2011 02:41 PM

I bought a 42" Panasonic Viera plasma from Best Buy back in December for a decent price. It's in a bright room and the image looks great, and the viewing angle is pretty decent. Watching it next to LCDs and LEDs in the Best Buy store, it just seemed like the Plasma refresh rate and image were so much better. I have no clue if that's true or not, but just a matter of opinion from what I saw.

WarChild 03-04-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 17957919)
plasma has the best picture quality hands down, people who say otherwise don't know much about tv's.... you only buy LED if your room is bright

:thumbsup

Ross 03-04-2011 02:57 PM

I just ordered a 60 inch Plasma for my basement, its going to be brightish during the day, but fuck it, the colours and so on, on Plasma are just way better. Most of my hardcore tv watching will be at night anyway. I have a 46inch Sony Bravia LED in my formal living area and I love it, but couldn't justify paying an extra $800 over the Plasma for the 60inch Version.

bronco67 03-04-2011 03:01 PM

I don't know what the fuck you people could be seeing when watching a plasma that is SO much better than LED.

LED looks so damn amazing that at my Christmas party almost everyone was creaming over the picture quality. I think I gave about 10 picture demos with a Blu Ray that night. Some of them actually own the same set now, just because they were so floored.

is this one those "vinyl is so much better" things?

arock10 03-04-2011 03:08 PM

if the room is dark, a large plasma will be better and half the price as a similar LED tv

pristine 03-04-2011 03:13 PM

There's no god damn way plasma is better than any LED or many LCD's for that matter.

WarChild 03-04-2011 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine (Post 17958137)
There's no god damn way plasma is better than any LED or many LCD's for that matter.

Try looking at them side by side. Then you'll see.

iMind 03-04-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pristine (Post 17958137)
There's no god damn way plasma is better than any LED or many LCD's for that matter.

Plasma is hands down the best.
I own a 40 LCD, 50 Plasma and 32 LED
the plasma's picture is superb.

MrBottomTooth 03-04-2011 03:25 PM

If you go with LED try to get a local dimming set instead of the edge-lit ones. Blacks are better and more uniform compared to an edge-lit, which will often have splotches of uneven light across the screen just because of the how the screen is lit.

WarChild 03-04-2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17958109)
I don't know what the fuck you people could be seeing when watching a plasma that is SO much better than LED.

LED looks so damn amazing that at my Christmas party almost everyone was creaming over the picture quality. I think I gave about 10 picture demos with a Blu Ray that night. Some of them actually own the same set now, just because they were so floored.

is this one those "vinyl is so much better" things?

It's not SO much better, it's just better. Go to a television store, look at the same brand plasma side by side with the LCD.

F-U-Jimmy 03-04-2011 03:49 PM

If you have to buy now then its got to be a Samsung 9000 series LED if you can wait 12 months then you can have a TV that will beat the shit out of any set on the market today
See below

I brought a small 46inch 9000 Samsung which will be replaced with 64 inch OLED when they are out.

Key advantage OLED Televisions
Superior Picture Quality
With more vivid, lifelike colors, better representation of fast action video, wider viewing angels, and much higher contrast ratios, Organic light emitting diode Tvs dramatically enhance the viewing experience. Ech frame is sharp, ech detail pops! Thats because this display technology naturally refresh up to a thousand times faster than an LCD. Their color gamut can exceed NTSC standards. And this displays feature almost 180 degree viewing angle and in inherent contrast ratio of > 1.000.000:1.


High Efficiency
This display technology use power more efficiently than existing LCD and PDP HDTVs. With Tvs getting larger, they are becoming an increasingly energy intensive consumer of electricity. Purchasing power efficient Tvs will save money and critical energy resources.

Very thin
Much thinner and lighter weight than existing PDPs and LCDs, this displays can be the thickness of a pane of glass, and with gains made in flexible electronics could get even thinner. They can also be lightweight enough so that even large OLED screens will be easily moved or hung on the wall.

Cost effective
While the first Organic displays hitting the market today are expensive, those prices will fall dramatically as the technology matures and volume ramps. Ultimately, OLED televisions will prove more cost effective because they require fewer materials and fewer processing steps than LCDs and PDPs. As the process matures and larger-scale manufacturing capacity is in place, this displays will be as cost effective, if not mor so, than current products.


Samsung at SID-2010 OLEDs will be the next big thing in displays!
At the SID-2010 Sang-Soo Kim, executive vice president and chief technology officer of Samsung Mobile Display says that OLED is the future of displays. Both in mobile phones and in the TV market, Samsung expects to sell 1 Billion OLED Displays in 5 Years. Samsung invest $2.2 billion to the 5.5 Gen OLED factory which starts production in 2012.

Sam - Mr. Skin 03-04-2011 03:53 PM

New plasmas are better. There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Jakez 03-04-2011 04:18 PM

http://www.ehow.com/how_5043694_choo...led-hdtvs.html

NaughtyRob 03-04-2011 04:21 PM

My LED is awesome.

F-U-Jimmy 03-04-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 17958279)

This article is more than 2 years old. Things have changed a lot !

Phoenix 03-04-2011 04:28 PM

go led....if you need to buy it now..then do so

but what i do...is pick the one i want...and then wait 6 months and buy it at half price :)

only works if you dont need the replacement tv right away
but you can save thousands off your purchases this way

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-04-2011 04:42 PM

The prices on Plasma TVs are very reasonable these days too. Personally I think the picture on the LEDS is incredibly sharp, and for a gaming TV, I say LED. You can get a great 0" Plasma these days for right around $1000 though, the picture is nice, and the colors vivid. You really can't go wrong with the Plasma right now. With passive 3D on the way, and new technology just around the bend, I'd say you will probably be able to grab a good LED in that size range for right around the same price in about a year though.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-04-2011 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 17958230)
Samsung 9000 series LED

Agreed. One sexy television.

DudeRick 03-04-2011 04:48 PM

I repaired this stuff for over 20 years... LED - LCD without question is the best for picture quality and reliability! :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 17957720)
Its time to pull the trigger on a new TV, should I go LED-LCD or Plasma?


EZRhino 03-04-2011 04:49 PM

I've been looking for TV's for myself lately and I found that LED is the way to go. Worth the extra bucks and worth getting a tv thats internet ready. I love my plasma too but the sheer engergy comsumption of my plasma far exceeds a LED that I am looking at right now.

PornoMonster 03-04-2011 04:56 PM

LED no question

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:00 PM

Plasma offcoz

LED is just other way to spread light evenly over the screen.. Plasma has pixels that emit light them-self, black is black as pixel state is off..there is no light passing trough any pixels so the screen can show real black.

Viewing angle on plasma is much better as well and color seem much more life like..
I have 3 LEDS screens to compare and i would not go for anything else than Plasma..
The LCD's are nice and seem to have better frame-rate with games though, but for watching movies in darkened space i prefer plasma..
For anyone that is willing to take some time to understand how LCD/PLASMA works will understand plasma is the obvious choice.

Light passing trough a pixel will never give 100% black..which is the case with ANY LCD..LED is just the way light is distributed evenly under the LCD layer.
Plasma doesn't need any back-light as the pixel itself emits the light so black is just an OFF state of the pixel.

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17958349)
I've been looking for TV's for myself lately and I found that LED is the way to go. Worth the extra bucks and worth getting a tv thats internet ready. I love my plasma too but the sheer engergy comsumption of my plasma far exceeds a LED that I am looking at right now.


Who cares about energy consumption on a TV?, isn't it all about picture quality?
When i shop for a TV i look at picture quality.

qwe 03-04-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 17958109)
I don't know what the fuck you people could be seeing when watching a plasma that is SO much better than LED.

LED looks so damn amazing that at my Christmas party almost everyone was creaming over the picture quality. I think I gave about 10 picture demos with a Blu Ray that night. Some of them actually own the same set now, just because they were so floored.

is this one those "vinyl is so much better" things?

it's not SO much better, but it is better for picture quality and LED right now is not a TRUE LED, it's a different type of LCD, new OLED or whatever they are called will be true LED's but they are not out yet... just because at your party everyone was screaming over picture quality doesn't mean LED is better, I bet any money if you had decent plasma they would scream same thing... and lastly I don't really give a fuck and I'm not here to argue, the guy asked a question and I answered... this guy summed it good http://www.buzzle.com/articles/plasma-vs-led2011.html

suesheboy 03-04-2011 05:06 PM

LED.

Awesome picture, lower power consumption and does not heat up a room as much a the plasma does (which have an terrible life expectancy).

The LCDs are nice and a great cheap alternative.

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 17958349)
I've been looking for TV's for myself lately and I found that LED is the way to go. Worth the extra bucks and worth getting a tv thats internet ready. I love my plasma too but the sheer engergy comsumption of my plasma far exceeds a LED that I am looking at right now.

Getting a PLASMA or LCD has nothing to do with the Internet :-)

suesheboy 03-04-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godsmack (Post 17958386)
Who cares about energy consumption on a TV?

Some of us care about the earth we live on.

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 17958399)
LED.

Awesome picture, lower power consumption and does not heat up a room as much a the plasma does (which have an terrible life expectancy).

The LCDs are nice and a great cheap alternative.

Thats old info, life expectancy is same for plasma as lcd these days..

Dirty Minds 03-04-2011 05:11 PM

LED TV's are LCD's they are LED backlit

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Minds (Post 17958410)
LED TV's are LCD's they are LED backlit

yep, exactly, instead of TL lighting they use LED'S now to evenly distribute light behind the pixels.
LCD means light is passed TROUGH each pixel, even when pixel is BLACK there is still light passing trough them so black is not possible!
Black can only be done when NO light passes the LCD which isn't the case yet.
Plasma is the only way to show real black as there is no light passing the pixels as they emit light themselves. If pixels emit NO light you have real black!

thickcash_amo 03-04-2011 05:29 PM

I bought a 50in plasma a few years back, and wish I would have gotten the LCD or LED. I can't pause anything without turning it off in fear that it will burn into the screen and it gets pretty hot.

Dirty Minds 03-04-2011 05:31 PM

LCD = Liquid Crystal Display

LED = Light Emitted Diode

LED TV's are actually full LCD screens back lit by LED's

Godsmack 03-04-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thickcash_amo (Post 17958453)
I bought a 50in plasma a few years back, and wish I would have gotten the LCD or LED. I can't pause anything without turning it off in fear that it will burn into the screen and it gets pretty hot.

This "burn in" problem has already been solved many moons ago ...

BTW, there is NO LCD or LED, LED = LCD.
LED is just the way LCD pixels are back-lid
Few years ago LCD screens were back-lid by a TL tube on the far edges of the screen resulting in dark spots in the center of the screen.
With small screens this problem wasn't such big deal, but when higher res screens became mainstream the worse the problems got.
The only thing LED does is spread light evenly over a large surface area so all areas of the screen look as bright as the rest.

Spudstr 03-04-2011 08:35 PM

before my house burned down a few weeks ago I had a Pioneer Kuro 151FD.. 65" plasma.. THE BEST tv ever made. The picture on it was amazing. Unfortunately pioneer doesn't make tvs anymore but panasonic got their engineers and is making way better tvs. the new panasonic V30 is suppose to be almost as good as the kuro tvs

We had a LED-LCD in the master bedroom and frankly, it sucked compared to the plasma down stairs but we are comparing a 6500 tv to a 1000 tv.


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