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Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 02:19 AM

So if google doesnt care, im giving away all my porn for free now too..
 
It looks like googles new brilliant panda algorithm is doing every porn surfer a favor.
All the illegal tubes have jumped up the serps, so by the time they get to our paysites, they already KNOW they dont have to buy shit from you because everything they saw up till then is free.

Another nice factor is the weight of bouncerate and pv's. Great idea google, guess you didnt count the fact that paysites often have a higher bouncerate and less pv's because of all the free surfers that immediatly close any paysite now.

Great fucking idea. As if we wherent fucked already :thumbsup

So as off today, im going to gradually give away FREE porn on my paysites. As a gift, to google, for the love of getting things for free!

grumpy 04-13-2011 03:17 AM

sure, blame google

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18052899)
sure, blame google

Not blaming them, but surely you agree they arent helping us either.
And if nobody cares, why would i?

Chris 04-13-2011 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 18052899)
sure, blame google

this is one of those rare times that you can actually blame google

search for porn

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 18052916)
this is one of those rare times that you can actually blame google

search for porn

Exactly my point. :2 cents:

And its for any major keyword.
If you arent in the webcam biz (or selling products), you will notice the big fucking ownage anytime soon.

Chris 04-13-2011 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 18052920)
Exactly my point. :2 cents:

And its for any major keyword.
If you arent in the webcam biz (or selling products), you will notice the big fucking ownage anytime soon.

Products such as myself we have seen a major hit in the SEO world. Things that worked last month just flat out don't work anymore.

Until google stops fucking with ppl i am going to stick to the tried and true ppc method of things - hell the rules for that even changed with your landing pages..you will now get paid if they feel like its just a page to advertise and offer now real value lol

Aussie Rebel 04-13-2011 03:53 AM

adapt or die :)

PornHero 04-13-2011 03:53 AM

A pornsite is a website that links to porn.

By that definition, Google is the biggest pornsite in the world.

Sure, other people upload and host the porn pics and videos, but Google has the most links to porn.

It's Google's world, we are just squirrels trying to get a nut on the information superhighway.

http://pornhero.com/squirrel_highway.jpg

Chris 04-13-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornHero (Post 18052924)
It's Google's world, we are just squirrels trying to get a nut on the information superhighway.

http://pornhero.com/squirrel_highway.jpg

lol i said something like that to a friend yesterday

Chezter 04-13-2011 04:22 AM

i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chezter (Post 18052942)
i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

I think you missed the news about googles new geniusly build algo.

plsureking 04-13-2011 04:42 AM

u are preaching to the choir...

.

BlackCrayon 04-13-2011 04:51 AM

google fucked me this time around. was number one for a term for a couple years, made some decent money off it. now my site is nowhere to be found and tubes fill the first couple of pages..

seeandsee 04-13-2011 04:53 AM

they dont care about what site have, they care about backlinks

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 18052954)
u are preaching to the choir...

.

The choir already got fucked by god for free, amen google.

Barefootsies 04-13-2011 04:54 AM

I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

That being said, it sounds like you need to re-invent a more interactive website that keeps people clicking on it longer. Maybe a free tour with a decent chunk of scenes to keep them clicking before asking for the sale. Or some other form of interaction.

Then you should decrease bounce rates, and increase time on site, hence climb back up.
:2 cents:

DamageX 04-13-2011 04:57 AM

Google serves the surfers, not the webmasters.

OT Friskyman, hit me up on ICQ yo!

Si 04-13-2011 05:17 AM

I noticed my sites that have high bounce rates but still produced results (people clicking through to what I was selling) have dropped.

So obviously keeping that visitors on a site longer is a big thing to them at the moment.

Django 04-13-2011 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18052972)
I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

That being said, it sounds like you need to re-invent a more interactive website that keeps people clicking on it longer. Maybe a free tour with a decent chunk of scenes to keep them clicking before asking for the sale. Or some other form of interaction.

Then you should decrease bounce rates, and increase time on site, hence climb back up.
:2 cents:

Good point.

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 18052968)
they dont care about what site have, they care about backlinks

Maybe you should get out of your cave a lil more ;)

TeenCat 04-13-2011 06:37 AM

you know, google is not our babysitter ... google is search engine, and if someone is looking for porn and some stolen content website have best backlinks and content and traffic, that website have to be first sure. they cannot ban the sites, you know what it will ends? banned anything, people complains, only shit ... so, do better to get before the stolen site, its what you have to do, do not sleep, business is still fight ...

Paul Markham 04-13-2011 06:37 AM

So you all know the problem and it's going to get worse and never get better.

The days of selling tons of memberships to sites with the same boring pre recorded porn are coming to an end.

There are solutions, but few want to bother with them.

Go to live sex that can't be downloaded.

Make the experience and cost of a site something people want to buy.

Don't tell us problems, look for solutions.

But I'm too old to have a clue. Like you young ones. :1orglaugh

The problem isn't Google. It's your sites. People hit them and say NO. People hit Tubes and say YES, bookmark and you're fucked, because you just lost a potential customer.

arock10 04-13-2011 06:48 AM

google owns youtube, so what do you expect?

Chris 04-13-2011 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chezter (Post 18052942)
i blame google, but tubes are on the first places in google for at least half a year, it is not anything new...

the rankings they picked up in the past few weeks is nothing like it was a few months ago

dyna mo 04-13-2011 07:31 AM

should google change their algo because we give porn away?

Jack Sparrow 04-13-2011 07:39 AM

Lots of people completely missing the point.

FlexxAeon 04-13-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18052972)
I doubt that the 'G' gives porn and it's concerns much thought in the algo.

:2 cents:

G & Matt have already said they are proud of their results. they're clearly looking at specific types of results and not porn. we're one of the last things on their minds when it comes to algo tweaks. it's like in a car accident, the last thing you're worried about is if your big gulp of mountain dew spilled or not. :1orglaugh all we can do is hold on for dear life and/or figure out how to work the panda to our benefit

i'll tell you this much, if it wasn't for branding and longtail i'd be destroyed. lost some major top spots that i've literally been the authority in and had for years. looking like it's climbing back (slowly), but it's the branding and longtail that is keeping me afloat right now

Agent 488 04-13-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 18052824)
It looks like googles new brilliant panda algorithm is doing every porn surfer a favor.
All the illegal tubes have jumped up the serps, so by the time they get to our paysites, they already KNOW they dont have to buy shit from you because everything they saw up till then is free.

Another nice factor is the weight of bouncerate and pv's. Great idea google, guess you didnt count the fact that paysites often have a higher bouncerate and less pv's because of all the free surfers that immediatly close any paysite now.

Great fucking idea. As if we wherent fucked already :thumbsup

So as off today, im going to gradually give away FREE porn on my paysites. As a gift, to google, for the love of getting things for free!

i agree man this update sucked.

although the bounce rate theory, people are spreading it but has google said anything (link?), or an any proof?

i suspect they devalued certain types of backlinks though, increased the weight of link spammed from twitter and facebook.

should call it the tube update.

Agent 488 04-13-2011 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=FlexxAeon;18053480

i'll tell you this much, if it wasn't for branding and longtail i'd be destroyed. lost some major top spots that i've literally been the authority in and had for years. looking like it's climbing back (slowly), but it's the branding and longtail that is keeping me afloat right now[/QUOTE]

i shared one of those with you for years man but site got deindexed for no reason. i feel your pain. unless you got me deindexed ...

2intense 04-13-2011 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 18053280)
Lots of people completely missing the point.

i agree :disgust

FlexxAeon 04-13-2011 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18053550)
i shared one of those with you for years man but site got deindexed for no reason. i feel your pain. unless you got me deindexed ...

:1orglaugh nah i don't do that.

sucks though because right now those top spots are either tubes, thin landing pages, or really shitty sites that had no chance at getting a top spot over me pre-Panda

AdultKing 04-13-2011 09:29 AM

http://in.vu/images/sadpandajp.jpg

Klen 04-13-2011 10:49 AM

Funny how on keyword sex pornhub is still there,but brazzers dot com is completely gone.

cooldude7 04-13-2011 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18053153)
So you all know the problem and it's going to get worse and never get better.

The days of selling tons of memberships to sites with the same boring pre recorded porn are coming to an end.

There are solutions, but few want to bother with them.

Go to live sex that can't be downloaded.

Make the experience and cost of a site something people want to buy.

Don't tell us problems, look for solutions.

But I'm too old to have a clue. Like you young ones. :1orglaugh

The problem isn't Google. It's your sites. People hit them and say NO. People hit Tubes and say YES, bookmark and you're fucked, because you just lost a potential customer.

whats ur point ?
we should start illegal tube site ?

arock10 04-13-2011 05:31 PM

illegal puzzle tube site that counts bathrooms

shermo 04-13-2011 05:51 PM

Was interesting to wake up yesterday to see 50% less google traffic for some terms that I've had top spot on for YEARS. Time to reduce those bounce rates and increase time on the sites. There are a few ways to do so, and one of them includes giving away more :X

Go figure! Thanks Google!

Seth Manson 04-13-2011 06:34 PM

I never really liked the business other than how easy it was to make a large amount of money. I didnt care for anything else that goes with it. I have to say I'm kind of glad its on the way out and I'm really glad the other stuff I started working on months ago is really picking up now.

And one thing I've always said about Google: Relying on it for your sole source of income is just retarded.

Jack Sparrow 04-14-2011 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornopete (Post 18053833)
Who you kidding, you don't have a paysite.

Lol ok, i dont then. Im just pretending because erm..


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