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theking 07-05-2011 12:04 PM

My thoughts about the Casey Anthony verdict
 
...Having followed the case and trial I am of the opinion that the Prosecution simply did not prove premeditated murder nor did they prove felony murder...but I fully expected the jury to find her guilty of manslaughter...but she walks. A jury is completely unpredictable even though the talking heads try to predict what a jury is going to do.

CDSmith 07-05-2011 12:09 PM

No justice for the little girl.

And unless I'm wrong I don't think the mother can be retried ever, even if by some chance some new miraculous evidence is found that proves her guilty.

Jury was probably right though, there obviously wasn't anything in the evidence strong enough for a zero doubt conviction. To me the circumstantial stuff collectively was pretty damning though.

Harmon 07-05-2011 12:10 PM

Agreed, the case was not proven. The problem is that now the father and the meter reader guy had better watch out. This is a murder case. They will eventually have to attempt to pin it upon somebody.

My best advice for those people, be prepared to have you lives more uprooted than they already have been.

ShellyCrash 07-05-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18262041)
No justice for the little girl.

And unless I'm wrong I don't think the mother can be retried ever, even if by some chance some new miraculous evidence is found that proves her guilty.

Jury was probably right though, there obviously wasn't anything in the evidence strong enough for a zero doubt conviction. To me the circumstantial stuff collectively was pretty damning though.

Theoretically they can bring a different set of charges- criminally negligent homicide, improper disposal of a corpse, abuse of a corpse, etc. It can happen, but it's rare.

theking 07-05-2011 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 18262041)
No justice for the little girl.

And unless I'm wrong I don't think the mother can be retried ever, even if by some chance some new miraculous evidence is found that proves her guilty.

Jury was probably right though, there obviously wasn't anything in the evidence strong enough for a zero doubt conviction. To me the circumstantial stuff collectively was pretty damning though.

You are not wrong...the state of Florida can never charge her with the death of her child even if she announces that she is responsible for the death of her child. Federal charges could be filed for a violation of the child's "civil rights" if she announced that she is responsible...but probably would not be.

CyberHustler 07-05-2011 12:18 PM

I hate to say it, but if she was some big lipped nappy headed dark skin booty bouncer or a spicy tit shaking tan skin reggaeton listening puta... shit would have been different.

ShellyCrash 07-05-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18262058)
I hate to say it, but if she was some big lipped nappy headed dark skin booty bouncer or a spicy tit shaking tan skin reggaeton listening puta... shit would have been different.

I don't even know if it's just a race thing alone. I mean, the West Memphis 3 are still in jail...

CyberHustler 07-05-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 18262068)
I don't even know if it's just a race thing alone. I mean, the West Memphis 3 are still in jail...

Did they have the same jurors?

The Demon 07-05-2011 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18262025)
...Having followed the case and trial I am of the opinion that the Prosecution simply did not prove premeditated murder nor did they prove felony murder...but I fully expected the jury to find her guilty of manslaughter...but she walks. A jury is completely unpredictable even though the talking heads try to predict what a jury is going to do.

Cant wait to see what my law professors think of this lol.. But in 100% agreement with you.

GatorB 07-05-2011 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18262025)
...Having followed the case and trial I am of the opinion that the Prosecution simply did not prove premeditated murder nor did they prove felony murder...but I fully expected the jury to find her guilty of manslaughter...but she walks. A jury is completely unpredictable even though the talking heads try to predict what a jury is going to do.

First off in most cases the jury is not given the option of a lesser sentence. The prosecutor usually goes for all or nothing. So no the jury is not unpredictable they did their job exactly as they were supposed to. Unfortunately 95% of the idiots out there think otherwise. Go to Yahoo and read the comments on this verdict. 95% think somehow the justice system is screwed. They have ZERO knowledge of the US Constitution. In America we do NOT convict on "PROBABLY did it". Occasionally that means the guilty go free. If that means a innocent person is kept out of prison then so be it.

JosephFM 07-05-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedi (Post 18262058)
I hate to say it, but if she was some big lipped nappy headed dark skin booty bouncer or a spicy tit shaking tan skin reggaeton listening puta... shit would have been different.

I thought about that too but then i remembered how OJ walked.

CDSmith 07-05-2011 12:29 PM

I'm quite sure the prosecution isn't going to just let this go. They will keep digging until they can haul someone into court (or back into court) to answer for it.

I will say this though; what with the bag and the duct tape and the body being found where it was etc, plus all the other evidence involved, the person or persons who were directly involved in this girls' death all deserve the death penalty, period.

Btw you'd think this 'mom' would be outraged and angry that her daughters' killer is still out there and going uncaught and unpunished, but all I see from her (aside from mostly emotionless looks) is worry about herself and the well-being of her own hide.

VikingMan 07-05-2011 12:55 PM

lets hear it for all the wonderful "gubment" employees who screwed up the investigation and prosecution!

CyberHustler 07-05-2011 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephFM (Post 18262090)
I thought about that too but then i remembered how OJ walked.

OJ had Johnny Cochran

ShellyCrash 07-05-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ******* (Post 18262162)
lets hear it for all the wonderful "gubment" employees who screwed up the investigation and prosecution!

They always fuck it up. When my uncle was killed the only print they found @ the crime scene belonged to one of the detectives, full on palm too. Also it took them like a week to find the car, which was parked only a few blocks away and is visible in the crime scene photos, etc.

One thing the DA did in our case that wasn't done here was they presented the jury with their mistakes. If the prosecution brings the mistakes into the light they control the conversation. If they don't and let the defense bring it in, the defense gets to play the angle of "look at what they don't want you to see", like was done here.

Honestly, I thought the prosecution put on a good case and am kinda shocked by the verdict, but that was a pretty glaring fuck up in my mind. I didn't think it would cost them the trial, I don't know if it did, but they needed to be the ones to put Kronk on the stand, etc.

Joshua G 07-05-2011 02:17 PM

surprising verdict. Now that we live in a CSI world, abundant circumstantial evidence is meaningless.

If the DNA dont fit, you must acquit.

officemike 07-05-2011 02:19 PM

Getting away with murder got mainstream. Not just for washed-up athletes anymore.

ShellyCrash 07-05-2011 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18262307)
surprising verdict. Now that we live in a CSI world, abundant circumstantial evidence is meaningless.

If the DNA dont fit, you must acquit.

In a CSI world there's DNA and semen on everything.

CyberHustler 07-05-2011 02:58 PM

This is the start of a lot more people getting away with murder. Blame Dexter.

Anthony 07-05-2011 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by officemike (Post 18262310)
Getting away with murder got mainstream. Not just for washed-up athletes anymore.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...71c46/340x.jpg

epitome 07-05-2011 03:23 PM

She's certainly guilty of stupidity.

If the child drowned, why not call paramedics? It'd be considered an accident. Happens all of the time.

If the child is missing with a babysitter for a month, call the cops.

The one thing I keep hearing, but I know nothing about, is this meter reader. What's his story? Why was defense saying he may have more involvement? Was that just something they threw out there or is it something like they're accusing him of kidding her?

epitome 07-05-2011 03:25 PM

I was at the DMV when the news broke and just got home, but wasn't she found guilty on four counts of lying to the cops?

If so, each count carries a possible jail term of 4 years.

The judge could decide in their mind that she's guilty and give her all 16 years.

We can hope. Then we can hope that the other prisoners exact justice on her.

I think she's guilty. Too many lies, changes in stories, non-reporting off missing/dead child, etc.

onedree 07-05-2011 03:27 PM


Time served
on Thursday!


The
Jury
has
spoken !!!



L-Pink 07-05-2011 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18262405)

That's priceless !

.

Holly Lez! 07-05-2011 03:43 PM

She lied from the get go.. Casey initially told detectives Caylee had been kidnapped by a nanny, triggering a nationwide search that ended on December 11, 2008.
That's when Caylee's skeletal remains were found in woods near the Anthony family home with duct tape dangling from her skull.

A nanny who never existed.. a job she never held and on and on.. Than they claimed she accidentally drowned.. if that is the case why the duct tape? and why not just call it in..

CDSmith 07-05-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18262425)
I was at the DMV when the news broke and just got home, but wasn't she found guilty on four counts of lying to the cops?

If so, each count carries a possible jail term of 4 years.

The judge could decide in their mind that she's guilty and give her all 16 years.

We can hope. Then we can hope that the other prisoners exact justice on her.

I think she's guilty. Too many lies, changes in stories, non-reporting off missing/dead child, etc.

She'll get time served and be on her way.

Party this weekend btw, at her best friends' lake house. BYOB. Don't get drunk and fall in the pool, no lifeguard on duty.

baddog 07-05-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18262425)
I was at the DMV when the news broke and just got home, but wasn't she found guilty on four counts of lying to the cops?

If so, each count carries a possible jail term of 4 years.

Incorrect. Each guilty verdict was on misdemeanor charges which equals a max of 1 year and $1,000 for each, total 4 years and $4,000.

She has served over 3. She will walk on Thursday unless the judge is a total prick, which he did not come across as to me.

GregE 07-05-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18262480)
Incorrect. Each guilty verdict was on misdemeanor charges which equals a max of 1 year and $1,000 for each, total 4 years and $4,000.

She has served over 3. She will walk on Thursday unless the judge is a total prick, which he did not come across as to me.

And to add insult to injury, she'll be able to cash in on her new found celebrity (such as it is) with a book deal and all the rest.

Her having been found innocent of the main charges, the Son of Sam law won't affect her :disgust

TCLGirls 07-05-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 18262680)
And to add insult to injury, she'll be able to cash in on her new found celebrity (such as it is) with a book deal and all the rest.

Her having been found innocent of the main charges, the Son of Sam law won't affect her :disgust

I believe the attorney Baez has the book/movie rights as compensation for representing Anthony for free or reduced fee.

Anthony 07-05-2011 05:47 PM

http://i56.tinypic.com/70i4jc.jpg

thickcash_amo 07-05-2011 05:55 PM

The whole freaking trial was a circus show from the beginning.

VikingMan 07-05-2011 05:59 PM

The entire family is trash and will have to watch their backs for the rest of the the days they pollute this planet with their disgusting existence. :2 cents:

cykoe6 07-05-2011 06:35 PM

Poor little girl. :( Such a fucked up world.

Lace 07-05-2011 06:49 PM

No one cares what the fuck you think.

Btw - This message is hidden because theking is on your ignore list.

seeandsee 07-05-2011 06:55 PM

gfy judges spill the verdict

theking 07-05-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 18262680)
And to add insult to injury, she'll be able to cash in on her new found celebrity (such as it is) with a book deal and all the rest.

Her having been found innocent of the main charges, the Son of Sam law won't affect her :disgust

If I am not mistaken the Supreme Court pretty much gutted the "Son of Sam" law...although some states have their own version of the "Son of Sam" law.

CyberHustler 07-05-2011 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18262695)

I'd wack it to that sex tape...

GatorB 07-06-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 18262307)
surprising verdict. Now that we live in a CSI world, abundant circumstantial evidence is meaningless.

You are never supposed to convicted anyone based on circumstantial evidence anyways.

Slambino 07-06-2011 06:30 AM

I haven?t read all the replies but I did anyone consider some type of jury corruption?
All it would take is one or two holdouts to convince the others.

Money is the name of the game and it doesn?t take a rocket scientist to realize the
monetary potential here of book deals and a possible movie, but if she was convicted of any of the felony charges and sent away this story and any pay day for a juror would become old news in a month.

The prosecution presented a very good case and it wasn?t all circumstantial, who the fuck cares if Georgie boy fucked the daylights out of that skank, what does it have to do with the case?

I would like to see the FBI investigate the jurors about circumstances that lead up to this miscarriage of justice and hopefully try her for violation of that beautiful baby?s civil rights the same way they did with Rodney King case.

Tom_PM 07-06-2011 07:10 AM

This was justice for Caylee. I know we don't like the taste of it when it doesn't come out the way we thought it would, but the trial process itself, as a whole, is the only thing that comes close to justice. We just dont like the outcome of justice in this case.

Any emotions about failure in this case belong attached to the prosecution for trying to ask for the death penalty when they literally had no evidence linking the defendant to the alleged crime.

porno jew 07-06-2011 07:15 AM

the lesson is the twisted media circus and lynch mob that passes for news is a joke and has nothing to with reality.

i hope the light now turns on the scumbags who create these phony news events for profit and heads begin to roll.

the sad fact is the television masses have the attention of a goldfish now and later today the population will be focusing torch in hand on the next fake moral outrage, facts and innocent people be damned.

shame on america.

cherrylula 07-06-2011 07:58 AM

People keep saying that... "justice"..... there is no justice when you're fucking DEAD.

RIP little child... she's not the only kid out there murdered, just the one everyone is talking about this week.

GregE 07-06-2011 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 18262853)
If I am not mistaken the Supreme Court pretty much gutted the "Son of Sam" law...although some states have their own version of the "Son of Sam" law.

Correct.

The Supreme Court keeps shooting the law down, and the states (or most of them anyway) have the good sense to keep rewriting it.

It's an endless cycle and it's bullshit like this that makes me sometimes think we'd be better off with a good dictator :(

iamtam 07-06-2011 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18263726)
the lesson is the twisted media circus and lynch mob that passes for news is a joke and has nothing to with reality.

i hope the light now turns on the scumbags who create these phony news events for profit and heads begin to roll.

the sad fact is the television masses have the attention of a goldfish now and later today the population will be focusing torch in hand on the next fake moral outrage, facts and innocent people be damned.

shame on america.

i was thinking your comment was interesting but by the word goldfish i stopped reading and checked the weather instead.

GregE 07-06-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18263726)
the lesson is the twisted media circus and lynch mob that passes for news is a joke and has nothing to with reality.

i hope the light now turns on the scumbags who create these phony news events for profit and heads begin to roll.

the sad fact is the television masses have the attention of a goldfish now and later today the population will be focusing torch in hand on the next fake moral outrage, facts and innocent people be damned.

shame on america.

In a jury trial it doesn't much matter what the television masses focus on.

The problem here was that, collectively, the jury had the intelligence quotient of goldfish.

Shame on them.

NaughtyVisions 07-06-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 18264041)
The problem here was that, collectively, the jury had the intelligence quotient of goldfish.

Shame on them.

The jury wasn't the problem. The prosecution was. They had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Casey was guilty, and they failed to do that. Like it or not, it's as simple as that. The prosecutors failed to prove their case.



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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 18262088)
First off in most cases the jury is not given the option of a lesser sentence. The prosecutor usually goes for all or nothing. So no the jury is not unpredictable they did their job exactly as they were supposed to. Unfortunately 95% of the idiots out there think otherwise. Go to Yahoo and read the comments on this verdict. 95% think somehow the justice system is screwed. They have ZERO knowledge of the US Constitution. In America we do NOT convict on "PROBABLY did it". Occasionally that means the guilty go free. If that means a innocent person is kept out of prison then so be it.

And what he said ^^^

Tom_PM 07-06-2011 10:29 AM

I dont know how some people think it was a perfect case and grasp at everything to find a "magic bullet" reason why they got it "wrong". I dont get it.

The case SUCKED! Did you even see it? Or read about it? They SUCKED. They BLEW the case with their suck! Thats your magic bullet: the prosecution had NOTHING but innuendo and had to get experts up there to say "nope, none of that present. But here's my opinion...." Are you KIDDING me. They sucked and blew it.


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