Gun Krazy
 

whats up with these mass killings? eyes bugged out at a friends bbq holding your gun in you pants. :Oh crap the quickest guns go home. you don't have one run and hide.


COPLEY, Ohio (AP) ? Police on Monday identified the man responsible for shooting and killing 7 people in a rampage over the weekend in this small Ohio town, and a woman who knew him said he was an unpleasant, disliked person who was involved in an estate dispute.

Michael Hance, 51, was named as the gunman in Sunday's killings in Copley, and he died in a shootout with police.

Robin Hancock came to the police station in this northeast Ohio community on Monday to hear updates on the slayings that left eight dead, including Hance.

"He was quiet and strange," said Hancock, 53, of Akron.

Hancock was a caregiver for a couple slain in the rampage, and said Hance's confrontational behavior caused her to leave her job.

One shooting victim who survived was Becky Dieter, Hance's girlfriend of more than two decades, she said.

Hancock said Hance had become embroiled in a dispute over the will of Dieter's late parents, and that a next-door couple who were long-time friends with Dieter's parents had gotten involved.

That couple were among the seven whom police say Hance shot and killed.

Police combed through three homes and searched outside a fourth in a wooded, residential area outside Akron on Sunday, collecting evidence as they tried to piece together what happened during the shootings that shook a quiet neighborhood.

Authorities were withholding the names and ages of those involved until officers could tell victims' family members, some of whom were out of state, Copley police Sgt. Eric Goodwin said. Autopsies began Monday.

The tragedy began before 11 a.m. when police say Hance shot his girlfriend in one home, then ran to a next-door neighbor's house, where he shot her brother and gunned down four neighbors. He then chased four people ? two through neighboring backyards ? shooting one of them before bursting into a home on a nearby road, where two others had sought refuge.

Police said he shot his eighth victim in that home and left, only to get into a gunfight outside with a police officer and a citizen who had been a police officer.

Neighbors said the dead included an 11-year-old boy and that at least three victims were from one family. A school official said he was told two victims were students at the local high school.

Gilbert Elie, who has lived in the neighborhood for 11 years, heard the gunshots and cries for help as he got ready for church. In an account that differed slightly from the police version, Elie said he went to a house across the street and found the woman who lived there lying in the driveway, her husband shot near the garage, and their granddaughter and another woman shot in the front seat of a vehicle, the windows apparently blown out by gunfire.

A third woman came out of the house next door and tried to talk to Elie, he said, but their brief exchange ended abruptly when a man followed her out of the house and shot her, sending the 76-year-old Elie running for safety behind a truck.

"She was talking to me, and he come up behind her and shot her, so I figured, maybe I'm next," he told The Associated Press.

He hid until he could see the gunman was gone, then returned home. Police arrived, and Elie said he heard a second round of shots coming from behind the houses and assumed officers had killed the gunman.

Elie said his neighbors, Russ and Gerdie Johnson, lived across the street. He said the ordeal has left residents of their well-kept neighborhood shaken and wondering what prompted the shootings.

Public records show a Russell Johnson, 67, and his wife Gudrun, 64, live on the road where the shootings occurred.

Elie described the gunman as generally unfriendly, a rarity on the street, and said he often worked on his car outside his house but never waved at anyone.

The Akron Beacon Journal reported that Copley-Fairlawn School Superintendent Brian Poe said he was told by a township trustee that two Copley High School students were killed and that a third youth, the 11-year-old, was also killed. Poe said the trustee told him the 11-year-old was not a Copley student.

Some of the victims are from out of state, Copley police Sgt. Eric Goodwin said.

"A person running through the neighborhood and firing a gun" had prompted calls to police, the Copley Police Department said in a news release late Sunday.

Brian and Diane Cross said they were riding on a motorcycle Sunday morning when they heard a loud bang and saw a man with a gun chasing another man. Brian Cross, 53, said they drove a half mile to a service station to call 911, but "Copley police was already on it, and they were flying by us."

Around sunset, about 200 people assembled at a park for an impromptu candlelight vigil for the shooting victims in their town and crime victims elsewhere. Some residents said they set up a memorial fund.

Some saw a double rainbow, including Kelly Kerr Gill, who was one of more than 100 people who posted condolences on a special Facebook page set up for one of the families that apparently lost several members. "Your double rainbow sent from heaven did not go un-noticed ... was truly a sign from God that those taken are ok," she wrote.

The Rev. Jeff Bogue of the Grace Church of Greater Akron prayed with those gathered at the vigil about faith in the wake of violence.

"This is troubling Lord, why such evil would come to our little township," he said.

Copley Township is west of Akron and about 40 miles south of Cleveland.


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Americans have the right to own guns. There is no check for mental issues. At all.

Although there is no "check for mental issues", they do ask about it.

It's a little box you mark "yes" or "no" in on the form 4473.

Section F:

"Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective or have you been committed to a mental institution?"

The other issue is that just because somebody has not been "adjudicated mentally defective" or committed, that does not mean they shouldn't have been.

anybody can become a killer. there is no real process to check if someone is a murderer. :2 cents:

It is due to the planned systematic dismantling of every aspect of society. No doubt as the economy crashes there will be a 1000% increase in violent crime. Where I grew up everyone had guns. In fact everyone I knew had a closet full of guns and ammo. I never heard of anyone killing each other. We did not need to lock our doors and the only crime you ever heard of was some kids smashing pumkins or lighting off fireworks in he middle of the night. We opened the doors for ladies and would risk our lives to save a complete stranger. Now everyone hates each other and the media feeds this hatred on daily basis. The 2nd amendment was not created for a country full of people from 30 different cultures, people on Prozac, emasculated douchebags, meth addicts, etc. It does not work any longer. Divide and conquer.

when the fuck was that? im guessing you lived in mayberry

add another to the list, 4 dead in Maryland, domestic-
http://news.yahoo.com/police-4-kille...005119868.html

within one month many multiple shootings/killings, although some of those in july i suspect were heat related, people just losing their shit.

It was called the USA. I still remember it with fondness. In school the first thing we would do each day was stand up, put our hands over their hearts, and say the pledge of allegiance like we meant it (because we did). Now kids don't even learn how to write cursive. It is a planned dumbing down of society.

i dont care if i lived in the police station when i go to sleep im locking the door. :1orglaugh

Ya... Tuscon will do that to you. I moved to PDX and I know several people that don't ever lock their doors. I was watching a friends dog and cat this winter and asked for the key and they said they were not even sure they had one. Apparently they have not used a key for the last 10+ years.

I lived in PDX for 35 years and I don't know anybody stupid enough to not lock their doors.

some people don't care if their murdered in their sleep :2 cents:

:1orglaugh saying the pledge of allegiance like you meant it? I remember seeing video of hitler youths goosestepping like they meant to too. You know, that was back in a simpler time when races were pure and we didn't have to worry about mass murders of innocent people...oh wait.

It takes a special type of asshole to equate what I said with what you are talking about.

I was thinking along the same lines as you when I read that post.

wtf is pdx? you mean Phx?

Oh I know exactly what you're talking about.
you- "The 2nd amendment was not created for a country full of people from 30 different cultures, people on Prozac, emasculated douchebags, meth addicts, etc."

All of your posts lamenting mixed races, people from different cultures.
I got your fucking number buddy, and you can fuck right off with your racist fucking bullshit.

As if PHX is the only airport code used when referencing various cities?

Here, let me Google that for you...

ok mr smarty pants :1orglaugh

I guess OWV would be used for your location. :1orglaugh

What country do you live in? I would appreciate and answer to this.

Also I have traveled to many countries including 3rd world countries and lived (and even dated) with people from various ethnicities, cultures, religions etc. I absorbed their cultures and learned from them. I grew as a human being from mixing with those people and it is the best thing I ever did in my life. I have no issue with "some" immigration from those countries. Nobody enjoys going out to various ethic restaurants more than I do. When I want Sushi I make sure to go to an old school Japanese place where the people are really Japanese. When I go to an Ethiopian restaurant I make sure the people who run it and work there are really Ethiopian. etc etc. Is that racist? I also am making sure my daughter makes friends with various kids who have parents who are recent immigrants. I want her to grow up with an understanding of the world and to learn various languages such as Mandarin, French, Spanish, etc. So if I am at the playground and we see mostly white families mixed with a few Chinese and Indians and I kind of nudge my daughter in the direction of the non-whites is that also racist? I am I being racist towards white people? We also took her to a huge Indian festival last weekend and made many connections with people. Most of these people were actually born in India. We could have went to a Scandinavian festival but I was not interested in mixing with those people on that day. Is that racist? Am I now racist towards Scandinavians?

So I can honestly say that I do not like or dislike anyone merely for their ethic background. In fact I enjoy the various opinions, cultures, religions, and customs. What I do not agree with however is massive immigration in a short amount of time which changes the culture of a country. I would also be saddened to hear if Japan had massive immigration and the same goes for many other places. I do not see this as racist in any way.

Can your feeble TV addicted brain process all of that info?

ok actually its would be TMJ= the motherfucking jungle :)

You already let the cat of the bag with your "mixed cultures" remark, but let me set you straight on something.

The United States was founded on mixed cultures. Who do you think came over here and built this country? That's right, people from all over Europe and other parts of the world.
It has always been a MASSIVE IMMIGRATION country and it always worked.

So who now do you think is threatening this idea? You talk about "massive immigration in a short time" and i would love to know who in your mind has done so much damage?
Mexicans? Arabs? Chinese?

Please, enlighten me on your mixed culture concerns...

Debating with people like you is pointless because you have been so indoctrinated with garbage TV, movies, and news media that you are set in your ways. The USA is full of people like you. I enjoy making friends with Indians because they tend to have much more developed intellects than the average American. If I do have hatred for anyone is for Americans who are not able to think and learn on their own and depend on the bullshit text books and Steven Speilberg movies to give them their worldview. Get a passport buddy and start traveling with a backpack. You will come back a better human being. It worked for me and lots of other people. Oh by the way when we had massive immigration from Europe those are all closely related cultures and even though they may have remained somewhat clannish after they moved here they ALL BECAME AMERICANS AND DID NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE CULTURE. Now contrast that with Mexicans who have taken over large areas of the USA with their flags, spanish language TV and radio stations, advertisements, business names etc. Ever drive through Los Angeles and try to get a fucking English language radio station?

Been there, done that. 23 countries and lived in 4. Big fucking deal.

Trying to change the culture huh?

I Lived in Los Angeles and Orange County for 9 years.
KLOS 95.5 rock
KTWV 94.7 FM jazz
KDAY 93.5 FM hip hop
KCBS 93.1 FM classic rock
KXLU Los Angeles 88.9 alt rock, talk, and oh my god latin music on saturdays.
I could go on and on...

Try visiting Italians areas of New York. Polish areas of Chicago. Vietnamese areas of Orange County.

You are simply full of shit.

Well said :thumbsup

And what is your ethnicity and religious background? (even if you are not religous what where your parents/grandparents)

I will go first: English, Norwegian, and French with some Ashkenazi from a grandparent. and my parents are mixed Catholic/Protestent. I have no religion.

I was raised muslim with a mix of Saudi and French.
I was raised catholic with a mix of polish and italian.
I was raised Hindu of Indian parents.

Should I go on?

You along with countless others seem to think that your parents-grandparents-ancestors along with their religious affiliation imposed upon you, has anything to do with what you are here. Now.

Here is my advice: Be a human on the planet earth. You will shed this hatred you have of "invaders" from other countries and realize that at one time the United States didn't look anything like it did before the Spaniards and Europeans invaded and changed the culture.

Yep, I was right. You got your world view from TV and movies and I call bullshit on your traveling. If you did in fact travel to those other countries I doubt it was in the same way that I traveled. Setting foot in a country is not the same as absorbing the culture. I absorbed so much into each country I visited that I was mistaken for a local. When I lived in Egypt I got really really tan, grew a beard, and wore the same clothes as everyone else. I literally looked "Egyptian". When I was in Israel everyone assumed I was Israeli. When I was in Italy......

But hey I could be wrong because I don't know you but evading my question of what your background is raises a huge red flag.

Maybe you should pledge allegiance to it;)