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Paul Markham 10-27-2011 01:22 AM

Why paysites are fucked.
 
The market is declining and the reason is one. It's easier to be a pirate and live off piracy than it is to produce and sell a product.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sc...w=1360&bih=784

Click on some of the sites and see who advertises their and their representatives here.

Juicy, Vendzilla, papillon, Amakings, AFF, Fling and I'm sure more.

How many there earn from piracy directly or indirectly and how many support them?

I'm so fucking glad I made my money while there was still a thriving porn business.

Eventually everyone with an income from paysites will be screwed.

Then what?

:angrysoap

At least I can wave goodbye and live off what we made. :smilie_we

So long as Eva keeps washing peoples floors. :thumbsup

porno jew 10-27-2011 01:26 AM

post proof amakings advertises on pirate sites or ban.

twistyneck 10-27-2011 01:27 AM

Welcome to 1996.

porno jew 10-27-2011 01:27 AM

freeones does ok with amakings.

http://hostones.com/temp/Roald/amakings.JPG

Harmon 10-27-2011 01:32 AM

http://i.imgur.com/YLsOL.jpg

porno jew 10-27-2011 01:34 AM

that sums up this stupid thread. thank you.

DWB 10-27-2011 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18518353)
post proof amakings advertises on pirate sites or ban.

Well, they actually are pirates.

Having said that, I'm going to become a pirate too.

wehateporn 10-27-2011 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18518453)
Having said that, I'm going to become a pirate too.

If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris :2 cents:

TheDoc 10-27-2011 03:25 AM

Yes, it is a fact that when a person fails, errr falls they blame everything and everyone else for the problems they are responsible for.

L-Pink 10-27-2011 03:30 AM

Not again .............

Brujah 10-27-2011 03:30 AM

When is the Markham Adult Paysite Bible being published? I'd like to order a copy.

DWB 10-27-2011 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18518479)
If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris :2 cents:

:1orglaugh I just wanna rock an eye patch. Pirate, rough sailor, or war vet... whatever it takes.

Paul Markham 10-27-2011 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18518504)
When is the Markham Adult Paysite Bible being published? I'd like to order a copy.

Probably after you're gone from adult and flippin burgers.

Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you. :1orglaugh

seeandsee 10-27-2011 04:12 AM

That is not only problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 18518479)
If I were you I'd go down the Ninja route like Fris :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TheDoc 10-27-2011 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18518557)
Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you. :1orglaugh

Or you... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Barefootsies 10-27-2011 04:23 AM


EukerVoorn 10-27-2011 04:28 AM

Saying that there is no future for paysites is very contradicting with the statement that only pirates have a future, after all, all the content on pirate sites come from paysites in the first place. Paysites are the source. And with that, they have the power. If all paysites vanish, all there is left for pirate sites to show is old content and if there is one market in which new products are demanded all the time, it's the porn market. People can be happy with 10 year old cars or 10 year old TVs or 200 year old "Grand Mother's Receipy" but not with old porn.

We just need to know how to deal with the piracy. I already know it.

Our sales were great over the last weekend by the way, it was madness. After Sunday it got a bit calmer but that's because it's the end of the month, next week sales will be good again.

CamTraffic 10-27-2011 04:34 AM

You should see some pay sites out there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh , no wonder people go to Tubes...

BIGTYMER 10-27-2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon (Post 18518366)

I think he's short a chromosome.

NewNick 10-27-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18518597)
I think he's short a chromosome.



Who Markham ?

CyberHustler 10-27-2011 08:46 AM

I just typed a nice explanation with tips and advice... but fuck yall. :321GFY

96ukssob 10-27-2011 08:57 AM

essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

what about the people who do not have the virus?

xNetworx 10-27-2011 09:02 AM

i can haz pornhub?

PR_Glen 10-27-2011 09:11 AM

http://www.florida-cracker.com/Image...goats/goat.gif

Bladewire 10-27-2011 09:19 AM

http://i.imgur.com/aNke0.gif








http://i.imgur.com/zBhx6.gif








http://i.imgur.com/G3IQB.gif

FlexxAeon 10-27-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18518583)

yep.....

DamianJ 10-27-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18518557)
Funniest thing is you guys actually believed anything I ever said

I know. How many times to you need to be proven a liar for people to give up on you?

porno jew 10-27-2011 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18518557)
Probably after you're gone from adult and flippin burgers.

Funniest thing is you guys actually believed online was the future. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Guess you didn't realise it wouldn't include many of you. :1orglaugh

you are projecting old man.

it is you that has been left in the garbage dump of history.

SykkBoy 10-27-2011 10:02 AM

Because they aren't upselling to e-cigarette sponsors ;-)

Wizzo 10-27-2011 10:16 AM

Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life... :pimp

ottopottomouse 10-27-2011 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18519055)
essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

what about the people who do not have the virus?

Sell them Inoculation Weekly - available at a magazine stand near you...

B.Barnato 10-27-2011 10:34 AM

http://i.imgur.com/uuv4J.gif

porno jew 10-27-2011 10:37 AM

sorry that's impossible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18519253)
Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life... :pimp


stocktrader23 10-27-2011 10:44 AM

Not this shit again. There is more amateur porn on the net for free than ever before. It has permeated non adult hangouts at this point. The paysite model has needed to evolve for several years at this point. I have a feeling that the smart people know this and are just riding the train into the ground but are well prepared for the future. Hell, MyFreeCams.com put the cam market on it's head and it won't be going anywhere anytime soon. A perfect response to the current state of the industry.

Jel 10-27-2011 10:48 AM

100,000 pirates. A month :eek2

Paul Markham 10-27-2011 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 18519055)
essentially you are saying that if you stop feeding the virus that is piracy, then piracy will die?

what about the people who do not have the virus?

No however it will be reduced.

Ultimately those on piracy sites will move to Tubes, if by any miracle the pirates disappear. The slide continues down hill.

http://esbjournal.com/data/images/ne...omsen-book.jpg

Something for you guys to read. :1orglaugh

beks001 10-27-2011 10:55 AM

I may be a nobody but all I gotta say is...Thanks for being so optimistic...here's a happy pill...take it....now time to make some changes.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Wizzo 10-27-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18519324)
sorry that's impossible.

I know, I'm trying to figure out how he manipulated the biller stats he showed me and I really think because he doesn't post on any boards that he just doesn't know he's not supposed to be making money today... :upsidedow

BFT3K 10-27-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B.Barnato (Post 18519316)

Cool gif :thumbsup

porno jew 10-27-2011 11:03 AM

why would anyone, take any advice from you, a complete failure at the internet?

just one reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18519363)
No however it will be reduced.

Ultimately those on piracy sites will move to Tubes, if by any miracle the pirates disappear. The slide continues down hill.

http://esbjournal.com/data/images/ne...omsen-book.jpg

Something for you guys to read. :1orglaugh


Nautilus 10-27-2011 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18519253)
Funny enough, I was just talking to a new a client of ours, he's been in the adult biz for about 2years now and so knows nothing about a time when their weren't tubes,torrents, and etc... So he built his paysite on the fact they are out there and he is doing around 30sales a day and with a ROI of 80% on the traffic he buys for it and was looking to buy even more because of it. So I guess it's not dead yet, just changing as does all things in life... :pimp

Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.

papill0n 10-27-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18518347)
The market is declining and the reason is one. It's easier to be a pirate and live off piracy than it is to produce and sell a product.

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#sc...w=1360&bih=784

Click on some of the sites and see who advertises their and their representatives here.

Juicy, Vendzilla, papillon, Amakings, AFF, Fling and I'm sure more.

How many there earn from piracy directly or indirectly and how many support them?

I'm so fucking glad I made my money while there was still a thriving porn business.

Eventually everyone with an income from paysites will be screwed.

Then what?

:angrysoap

At least I can wave goodbye and live off what we made. :smilie_we

So long as Eva keeps washing peoples floors. :thumbsup


what the fuck are you talking about ?

because I think you are dumber than a box of rocks you have drawn the conclusion I advertise where? pirate sites?

fuck you really are a genius :1orglaugh

papill0n 10-27-2011 12:45 PM

if paysites are fucked why would anyone buy your content ?

try thinking about what you are typing dopey

:1orglaugh

papill0n 10-27-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18519464)
Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.


and this is the 100% fucking truth :2 cents: :2 cents:

KillerK 10-27-2011 12:52 PM

u mad bro?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 18519464)
Yeah changing, because tubes supported by scamming companing like yours are cannibalizing paysite sales and one succesful paysite owner that can live of off the traffic he buys from you comes at the expense of 100 other paysites whose sales are dead because they got their entire member areas stolen and posted for free to attract hordes of traffic.

I just checked our DMCA log, 1059 infringing links removed from xhamster alone this year so far. They generated them millions of page views that were sold through your horsefucking piece of crap joke of a company, that's were you fags get that absurd amounts of traffic to sell, by providing thieves with the convenient way to monetize stolen property.

Times are changing, yeah. But not because of legit innovation that you have to adapt to. Xhamster is not posting THEIR videos that are better and cheaper than ours. They are posting OUR videos and cocksuckers like you and hordes of other buttom feeders who make their coin by providing services to piracy sites call it "innovation" or "changing times" to justify their actions.

I hope you bloody scammer will choke on money you made by helping pirates to rip our hard work.


HomerSimpson 10-28-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18518355)
freeones does ok with amakings.

http://hostones.com/temp/Roald/amakings.JPG

nice stats man...
where do you amateur submit stuff on FreeOnes?


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