will Newt win the GOP war of attrition and get the 75% Mitt can't?
 

Mitt can't get more than 25%
Newt has been slowly but steadily rising. Cain is probably now done.
Everyone knows Newt can beat Mitt and Barry in a debate.
could it actually happen?

if not, why not?

Media's and big government peoples wet dream. They cant lose with a Obama v Mitt or Obama v Newt. Bigger government and more wars either way. :thumbsup

I don't see that with newt. mitt for sure.

You really need to research Newt. :2 cents:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Qb8BVZUdc...Bgingrich2.jpg


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I'm pretty familiar:2 cents:

if you'd like to share, I'm all ears.

Newt likely can't get much support from the religious right which means he can't win the early primaries that are in the bible belt. For him to win the nomination he is going to have to raise enough money so that he can hang around until later March/April when the primaries move to the more moderate/progressive states. I don't think he is capable of raising that kind of money. Also he is going to have to convince the Tea Party that he is not just another big government republican and so far they don't seem to be buying it on a grand scale. . . although he is getting some love from them.

He has a major uphill battle ahead of him.

If he pulls it off, the current polls show him trailing Obama by 13 points. That is going to be a huge gap to make up.

out of touch with reality as usual. newt has zero charisma and support. also a dirtbag creep irl. would be great if was against obama. o's victory would be assured.

I agree he needs money but there is still a ton of money on the sidelines he could tap into if he becomes the "not romney" candidate.
Also, I think you're wrong about the religious right. If Cain is out, the choice will be newt or the rhino mormon. I'm liking his odds in that scenario.
And I don't think he has a problem with the tea party. he's pretty inline with them and has his original contract with america as street cred.

It will be interesting. I just think his road just got easier if cain is now out

no, I'm out of touch with what the children think.

I posed a question. please stay out of adult threads.

His road did get a lot easier with Cain self destructing.

As for the religious right, it will depend on what those voters do early. Worst case scenario for Newt or Mitt is that right out the gate in Iowa the religious right rallies around someone like Perry or Bachman and gives them a win. While I really doubt either of those two could win the nomination, it could drive donors to them and the press would love that because it would suddenly make them a potentially legit candidate. If someone like that comes out of nowhere both Mitt and Newt have real trouble. However, if, like you say, there is no religious right candidate that gets votes then the choice for those voters will be the Mormon or the guy who cheated on his wife and then divorced her while she was in the hospital with cancer. Likely, neither of them will get the support which actually could help Newt win the nomination, but could kill him in the general election.

yup, it just got really interesting.
taking off my conservative hat and looking at it as just a political junkie, I'd F-ing LOVE to see a handful of debates between Newt and Obama.

I hear Bachman coming back

Newt Gingrich is perfect. I really hope he becomes the front runner.

And maybe he will pull in Palin or that other psycho Bachman as VP, just to add that woman's touch and look all progressive like.

It's an assured implosion made in hell;)

That would be interesting because I would imagine that Newt would paint Obama as the standard issue big spending democrat and Obama would likely try to pin Newt down as one of the guys who caused the problems to start with.

It would be very interesting for sure.

I think that Sharon Bialek just bought herself a ton of scrutiny. The right wing blogosphere has already exploded with all kinds of things... including speculation that she has ties to David Axelrod... however, that would seem odd since she is a registered Republican voter.

your boss is calling. he wants some coffee. I man chat about sports/politics.

Newt, has a better chance with the Religious Right then Romney. They would prefer a divorced Christian over a moral Mormon... that's just how they roll... :winkwink:

I agree... I would love him to be nominated... there are literally 30 years of Newt's big mouth and multiple scandals... not to mention the fact that he was forced to resign as speaker over ethics violations...

Me too, me too.

he'd just have to be born an extra time. :winkwink:

I think the Christian Conservatives will definitely support him!

I don't see any reasons why they wouldn't , do you?

Well maybe this...

Mr. Gingrich is now in his third marriage. But while married to Wife No 1, he cheated on her with would-be Wife No 2, and while Wife No 1 was still in the hospital after a very excruciating surgery for uterine cancer, he reportedly went to her sick bed to present her with divorce papers. After successfully dumping Wife No 1, he married Wife No 2, and for six years, while still married to Wife No 2, he was having affairs with Miss Callista Bisek, a Congressional aide, who is now Wife No 3.

I think he's perfect! Line him up!

Neut will get eaten alive with his past of 10 second sound clips. While maybe he was no Rush Liprod, he certainly used to say some pretty extreme stuff and he is still to this day the only speaker of the house to have been disciplined for ethics violations for lying.

While "today" he seems like the most "sensible" of all the GOP candidates, he has far too much bad history that makes him unelectable, just like the rest of the GOP candidates that are also unelectable.

Simple fact even if Obama was a Muslim not born in the US and a baby eater, he could still beat what the right wing are bringing to the table.

I liked Newt much better as Cain's VP.

I like newt, always have,
i just dont know how he'll do against Obama

Are you saying "born again"? :upsidedow

thats awesome haha
but US is not electing a wife.

Its sucks that Huntsman isn't getting any traction, that guy might actually move the country forward in a positive way... :pimp

I think you're underestimating where the middle is on this and also where conservatives are on this.
Obama has lost much of the middle which is why he keeps losing in polls against an unknown republican. The other thing is that all of Newt's laundry is already out there. Odd as it seems, thats a plus in today's politics.

lastly, no one is going to let social matters get in the way of economic ones.
Thats why you hear virtually nothing about social values, abortion, etc. in this economic climate, no one gives a fuck about them.

no, I'm saying born again, and yet one more time for good meassure :winkwink:

I should put my hat in the ring.

So... writing 22 bad checks against the house bank and misusing tax deductible donations to fund the college course he was teaching at the time... those don't matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...ies/012297.htm

Maybe we should talk about Newt Gingrich's relationship with Sheldon Adelson

Gay Marriage - Abortion - Religion - DADT - etc.

Social Issues seem to be the ONLY agenda the GOP has!

You forgot welfare for the wealthy in that list...

Nonsense.:1orglaugh

forget newt. he talks like a wonk. great stuff when your a policy buff. when he has to appeal to peoples emotions, he's a hopeless fail. He's monotonic, incapable of conveying empathy. Maybe he wins the georgia primary. i doubt it.

Romney has this locked up. that consistent 25% shows he has stable & consistent support, which is crucial throughout the primary season, not just a couple early returns.

I think the current president was elected on emotions. We'll be looking for someone a little more knowledgable this time

I think Newt Gingrich would be better as a president than as a candidate.
Newt is by far the most knowledgeable in field. He lacks charisma and polished "slickness" of Robert and Perry.

Compare Obama, a great candidate who really got people excited, and a giant fail as president.

I certainly agree with that...... but I am concerned with whether Newt can actually win. Romney seems like the only safe play in the general election.

I was hoping this was a poll.

Barring that, no. Mitt will win the nom. If you don't think so you are most likely delusional.

It's always funny how they claim to want smaller govt and no social stuff but then half of their campaigns revolve around the govt telling adults what they can and can't do.. lol go figure..

The problem with Mitt is he tries to hide from himself. He did a decent job here in Mass as Gov and also created a pretty good working health care system for this stat. Yet he panders to the right no socialism stuff and tries to be what they want, instead of what he is.

TBH he might of had a chance running as a democrat in the last election (not this one) by running on his history in Mass as gov, but he just turns into a flip flopper trying to be wonder boy for the right. While he might get the GOP ticket, I can't see him beating Obama.

it's Romney, and he loses. Sarah Palin would have a better chance - would have been fun to watch because you know there'd be gaffes of epic proportions along the way that would be her undoing. Romney seems like the Republican's version of Michael Dukakis.

Jeb Bush but for the baggage of Dubya at this point could have beaten Obama if things don't improve.

but just amazing that a country of 330 million people, still the most powerful country on the planet and the best both parties can find to run for the title of 'most powerful man on the planet' is this bunch of mediocre career politicians. maybe it was always this way, and it's just as you get older you realize what type of person goes into politics and it most certainly isn't the best and the brightest.

i like Pat Buchanan, heard him interviewed the other day, has a new book out - made total sense to me.

I think right now he is just pandering to the right in hopes of getting the nomination. Right now they are all trying to out-conservative each other. If he gets the nomination he will likely shift to the center. The right hates Obama so much that Mitt won't have to cater to many of them in order to get their votes so if he can come off like a moderate that can fix the economy he could have a shot.

Still, I have said all along the election is in Obama's hands. If we are a month out of the election and the economy is growing and unemployment has dropped a decent amount from where it is now Obama will be almost unbeatable. However, if things are still shitty, he is vulnerable.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2011/1...ck-obama-wins/

I found this paragraph hilarious... considering that Erickson works for CNN..

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ideal republican candidate ^ only way to beat Obama

Oh how I wish this statement was correct. Seriously.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...318991554.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...ZuM_story.html

They will NEVER shutup about abortion in any election. Ever. I can honestly say I wish 12clicks was correct this time.

shit, my bad, this troll was talking about himself.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2493...rontrunner.htm

"""A CNN/ORC Poll shows 22 percent of Republicans and Independents who lean Republican support Gingrich. With a sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, this puts Gingrich at a tie with Romney. In a Public Policy Polling survey however, Gingrich pulls ahead of Romney altogether, leading with a full 10 percentage points."""

gingrich is a ahead because his running mates are so epically sad and stupid, nothing to do with electability in the general election.

So far it has been like everyone has had their chance to be ahead. Mitt has been at around 25% since the start of the campaigning. First Bachman took the lead, then Perry, then Cain and now Newt. Once each of the previous people took the lead the public got to actually hear them speak and that was enough to doom them. I think Newt is smart enough to only say what needs to be said and not sound like an idiot. The question will be: will his past have too many skeletons for him to be able to survive them?