Now here is an OWS speech that I can get behind!!
 

Here is somebody that REALLY gets it!! Especially 5:30 in.... Very impressed with this guy!





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Also for 5:30, he needs a shot of tequila for his voice. :)

With exception of a few concerns about states rights this guy is on the money.
pun intended;)

Yes he is hawking Ron Paul, but it's also true that Paul is closer to sound solutions than anyone else I've seen.

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wait, thought they were all unemployed hippie pot heads on crack out on parole?

A good speech. Although it does seem like he's on something.

Ron Paul would not be the answer if you listen past the sound bites he is alittle off.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/11...vote-for-paul/

The kid had some good points.

His answer is "Elect Ron Paul"... who raises more money for the Republican Party than any other candidate and uses that money to elect more Republicans... who furiously defend the fed and Wall Street and the banking system... OK

He has a beef with the federal reserve, wants limited federal government, get George Soros and his ilk out of politics and wants to allow citizens of different states to view on policies in their own states. This guy is at the party, he's a Tea Partier. OWS is financed in part by Soros.

His main message seems to be to get rid of the federal reserve.

Tea Party republicans have a strong anti-federal reserve message. See the quote above from the founder of the American Tea Party.


The federal reserve is a democrat creation, introduced by democrat Carter Glass and signed into law by democrat Woodrow Wilson, over opposition by business minded republicans who foresaw the danger to the economy.

nope it was based on a republican idea
The head of the bipartisan National Monetary Commission was financial expert and Senate Republican leader Nelson Aldrich. Aldrich set up two commissions?one to study the American monetary system in depth and the other, headed by Aldrich himself, to study the European central banking systems and report on them.[24] Aldrich went to Europe opposed to centralized banking, but after viewing Germany's monetary system he came away believing that a centralized bank was better than the government-issued bond system that he had previously supported.

He's a obvious libertarian and while they often have some good views many of their others a severally flawed and unrealistic.

Example He stats govt should only be there to protect our boarders and states should take care of everything else with-in their own boarders.

Sounds great in wonder land but lets think about reality for a min. One of the libertarian's fav targets is the big bad EPA. Lets say we go with his idea of Fed govt butting out and leave it up to the states to police their own pollution.

Humm do we not remember the land barons or railroad barons of the old west? How hard would it be to conceive that some powerful company in say Utah, decides they want to pay off local state govt and dump chemicals in the Colorado River.. Opps sorry Southern Cali & Arizona but no clean water for you!

BTW.. Oh and no more education standards.. I know that's not saying much now days but just think how much worse education would be in most states if your local bible thumpers got their way. Umm bible study 1st, 2nd & 3rd period anyone? Who need math, science and History when you have Jesus for all the answer.. whoo hoo..

let me guess without watching ... he wants ows to act like the tea party, with the same goals and tactics and rhetoric and worldview?

why doesn't the tea party do their own protests and mobilization or has koch pulled the plug already?

Are you claiming that democrat Carter Glass and democrat Robert Owen didn't author the Federal Reserve Act, or are you claiming that democrat Woodrow Wilson didn't sign it into law?

Under the Aldrich plan, which wasn't passed, any debt would have to be paid by the banks who chose to use the system, not by the taxpayers. The compulsory federal reserve which puts the public on the hook for bankers' actions, the federal reserve, is the democrat plan.

why don't people talk about where the anti-federal reserve meme came from?

from eustace mullins author of "secrets of the federal reserve" as well as "the biological jew" and a multitude of similar books.

nice intellectual history there.

Yep, you pretty much nailed it. He even goes after OWS financier George Soros. Funny, the only OWS speech that makes sense sounds just like a tea party speech.

Sounds like a good possible recruit for The Tea Party.

If he's at the OWS, maybe he's just there for the sex and drugs and rock n roll.. ;)

Thomas Jefferson was anti-federal reserve 150 years before Mullins was born. Republicans voted against the Federal Reserve Act en masse ten years before Mullins was born. He didn't originate the opposition to the Fed by any means. The fool Mullins also opposed too much power in the hands of big banks, big companies, and big government. He also thought the earth was round, not flat. Are all of those ideas wrong because one guy who thought them true was a jackass?

If so, everything Obama proposes must be wrong because there will always be at least one jackass who agrees with him.


Ps - I don't have any opinion about any specific reforms of the federal reserve. I just think it makes sense to be honest about whew it came from and who supports it. The fact is, the Tea Party leaders are anti-federal reserve and democrats created it.

Guy is right for sure. We don't produce stuff anymore. The economy is largely based on a group of scum that's found a way to milk and skim off the system at the expense of all else that doesn't apply to them.

Why does it always have to be "reserve or no reserve"?... rather than discussing some simple points of how it operates and what could be changed?

The world and particularly politics and economics is not purely about black and white. It is all shades of gray where the issues are commonly extremely complex, interrelated to other extremely complex issues and so on. People love pointing to a single cog in a massive machine and saying "lets get rid of that one" as if its a complete and well rounded solution.

All I can say is, that guy is going to get some hippie ass tonight if he wants it.

the modern anti-federal reserve opposition and awareness comes from mullins through g edward griffin to people like ron paul. that is the reality. know your intellectual heritage. that is a fact. contemporary influence is from pound and mullins not thomas jefferson.

could care less about obama. it's your mind that sees everything in simple binary fashion, not me. don't project.

that's bullshit. if we could just get rid of X, human nature and the imperfect systems that we create would be fixed.

Peace and Love,

ADG

It's bullshit that issues are complex and proposed solutions are often over simplified and short sighted?

I was just asking the simple question of why with the Federal Reserve, does it have to be No Reserve or All is OK?

I agree with you in that people are imperfect and as such, we have an imperfect system of government... of course, this was well covered by our forefathers and the very reason for the design of our government.

Dude, where the fuck have YOU been? What do you think most people have been talking about with regard to OWS? If anything this video is like a month old (that's not even the original upload of this vid). Granted, there are a lot of idiot douchebags involved with Occupy, no shit. Statistically, thats always going to happen when you get large groups of people together... can you say tea baggers? Are all teabaggers racist idiot just cause some of them clearly are? When are you imbeciles on both ends of the extreme (left and right) going to realize that TPTB and media play you guys like a fiddle, playing you off each other? Because if they get you attacking each other you dont come after THEM. It's a tactic. Wake the fuck up. Jesus. LOL

I wasn't getting my impressions of the OWS from the media. I went down to occupy Miami on two days and saw for myself. Most of them were anti-capitalist idiots who didn't know the difference between capitalism and corporatism (which is what we have). That's why I was inpressed with this guy. I don't understand why people would listen to the media regarding the tea party or OWS when you can just go look for yourselves.

You are unique then and despite my quoting you, I was really talking to anti- OWS people in general. I have seen lots of idiots associated with OWS sure, but I see just as many people like this guy as well and I liked this kid very much when I saw the vid for the first time last month. I also like some (but not all) of what thoughtfull tea party activists say. Like it or not, while there are extremists on both sides, there is a lot of overlap in the middle on common ground despite what idiot like 12clicks and his ilk would have you believe. Believe me the powers that be are scared SHITLESS that the two "sides" will come together and will try every dirty trick in the book from letting that happen guaranteed.