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Should jobless benefits be tied to VOLUNTEERING + other activities in addition to "job hunting"?
Georgia has an interesting bill in the works: VOLUNTEER or else lose your unemployment benefits. Normally, such benefits are tied to the recipient proving that they are actively job hunting. Should unemployment benefits' requirements be more stringent (add on volunteer work or additional training) or is a good faith effort at finding employment enough?
Source: http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-poli...s-1246745.html Quote:
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I like that idea. We'll pay you unemployment benefits, but you must give back to the community while we're doing so. Even just an hour or two a day, that way there is still plenty of daylight left for the job search.
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Just read 24 hours a week. That seems a bit much, almost 5 hours a day, M-F. Consider the drive back and forth might be another hour plus. Finding a job can be a full-time job in itself in this economy.
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great idea you pay for your benefits then in order to get what you paid for you are pimped out to some wacko christian organization to work for free instead of having time to look for a job or retrain.
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Unemployment is paid into by employees and employers. Now extended unemployment benefits paid for by state and federal government may be a different story.
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Everyone should have be provided enough money to pay their rent and eat. Farmers, food producers, builders, realtors and landowners would probably agree with this.
Print the money for this purpose instead of trillions for war and bailing out the gamblers on Wall St, Frankfurt and in London. Financiers, bankers and arms merchants would probably disagree with this. |
Sounds like a Newt Gingrich idea. Last week he said America should fire all school janitors and make the kids maintain the school.
But I guess these lawmakers should get a dictionary, "volunteer" work is no longer voluntary when you are forced to do it. Maybe all those slaves in Georgia were just "volunteers" back in the day? |
As Sly said.. you & your employer pay for your unemployment benefits while you work. In a sense it's kinda like social security in the fact that it's not really govt hand outs but rather something you earned already.
Now on the other hand I could agree for extensions or even welfare or other forms of social support that are more in tune with being a hand out. I do think however that there should be more tasks in regard to getting your unemployment as in being more proactive at making sure the people are actually seeking work as it's far too easy for them to not try at all. |
They will be accepting volunteering at McDonalds and Walmart, both of whom contributed over $8 million dollars to republicans in Georgia.
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thats bullshit because while your working you pay into un employment insurance.
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They should just verify that people are actually looking for work and if you get caught not looking then make them volunteer for 40 hours a week. Making them volunteer for 24 hours a week when trying to find work is gay as that basically eliminates 3 out of 5 work days to look. How good will a volunteer be to a charity when they are pissed off they have to volunteer. Government can't manage what they have yet everyday more bullshit introduced. Whoever decided 24 hours a week is an idiot if they expect them to job hunt at the same time, "yeah I can't do monday for an interview gonna have to be friday as I'm volunteering" employers don't like employees with "other" commitments or distractions regardless of how nice it is. :2 cents:
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with at least sixteen weeks of work in between. So you could get unemoyment for a couple of years, work for a few months, then go right back on unemoyment. The unemployment tax doesn't cover that. It's one of many reasons we've further in the hole to the tune of $20,000 per taxpayer in the last couple of years. |
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So volunteer and then neither you or your employer have to pay into unemployment fund again?
Unemployment used to be properly funded until politicians derailed the economy. Now they want others to pay for their mistakes twice. Brilliant. Now volunteering for welfare? Sure, I'm all game! |
I just said the exact same thing to my fiancee this weekend. I think it would be a great idea to put unemployed people to work doing something worthwhile, it'll certainly speed up their search for a real job if they are made to work for their benefits.
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It's not jobless benefits, it's insurance that you've paid for and into for all the years you've worked.
It's something you're entitled to. |
While we're at it make all those that are retired and are collecting social security to let homeless people stay in their house.
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i think the best way to respect those who have sacrificed their lives for america's freedom is to turn it into iran, china or nazi germany.
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The gov should not be in the biz of unemployment insurance.
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Full employment is an unlikely possibility in the future It was possible when I was 18, today's 18 year old's will never see it. They need something constructive that makes them feel part of society or we risk a future with an entire feral class.
In England they're raising the retirement age to 67 and it won't stop there. Every 60+ person in a job is denying one to an 18 year old. Short sighted way to save money. Is it cheaper to keep an 18 year old idle, than it is to retire a person at 60? Argue with the ages and compulsory all you like. It's nit picking. Let the old retire and enjoy life. Give jobs to the young. However retiring people at 60 add years to their life, better financially to retire them at 67 when they don't last so long. It's cheaper and keeps your taxes down. FUCK!!!! Thankfully I'm retired and no worries. |
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Because every dollar that get put into unemployment .15 cents will be paid out while the rest goes to the corporate tit. Bet you think private prisons are a bright idea too. |
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fuck americans are brainwashed it truly is incredible. it's like looking at soviet russia 40 years ago. |
In Australia unemployment benefits are govt mandated, and we have something similar called "work for the dole." The idea is that you're not just doing grunt work, you are hopefully learning some additional skills too.
Assistance is almost too easy to get here, a single mum with kids (periodically popping out a new one to some random father) can live quite comfortably off the various benefits and pensions. |
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How do you make volunteering mandatory?
:1orglaugh There's no such fucking thing and a mandatory volunteer. People are getting fucking dumber by the second in this world. If they have to show up to do any kind of work then they are hired and have to be paid minimum wage. If they "volunteer" more than 20 hours a week then they will be entitled to health care coverage. The government will then have to pay into unemployment insurance for them. Now "mandatory community service" is a real thing, but it's usually reserved for criminal who have been convicted of a crime. |
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Government is only giving back a fraction of what they force people to pay. What about the people like myself that do not want unemployment insurance? Should I have to pay? |
Yes yes and yes lol we have a similar thing over here where they send unemployed people to work as "work experience" They dont get paid but if they dont do the work experience they loose thier benifits for a number of weeks. Its a good idea, why should people who dont work and claim benifits not put something back into society. Us workes pay our taxes to these lazy asswipes
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Because as it has been pointed out IT IS NOT a benefit. People have been forced to pay 1000s and 1000s of dollars into the system as INSURANCE. |
This would be like a health insurance company, forcing you to buy their product, then when you start to use it say you need to sweep the hospital floors LOL.
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$5 linksubmitter, do you ever post a new thread without a link to some mumbo-jumbolaya trash site?
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it wont pass :2 cents: you'd be working for money that you've already earned. |
So how much does it cost to check up on the volunteers? I know people on unemployment. There is no checking on whether they are job seeking or not. Add this to the mess?
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Im kinda finding it hard why so many people are against this. Why should people sit on their arses all day while taking money from the country without putting anything back ..the mind boggles lol |
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This is exactly why the government should not be in the business of unemployment insurance. |
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when i went back to the uk for a couple of months i claimed dole and did not look for work all you have to do is go in every week and make it up say you have been looking in the paper and at on-line jobs very easy
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As an employee, unemployment taxes are taken out of my pay. My employer also pays an unemployment tax for me. The purpose of this tax is so that if I would become unemployed, I could file for unemployment and get a regular check that makes up a somewhat fair percentage of my regular pay. The unemployment tax is something that I and my employer pay for myself. That is essentially my money. If I lose my job, I should be entitled to that money because that's why I was paying that tax to begin with. Now obviously these benefits only last for so long. What has happened here is both the federal and state governments have pitched in to extend unemployment benefits using general tax dollars, and that is what many people have a disagreement with. Everyone that has paid into unemployment should be able to receive that money back, same as Social Security. |
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qualify. People who work for years before getting laid off have paid more into the system then they will get in benefits. It's their own fucking money!!!!! You are calling people lazy for not working but the only reason they get the benefit is because they worked long enough and paid for it. They are getting their own money back and you think they should work for the money they paid. :1orglaugh Here is a tax rate chart to show how much money people pay into unemployment insurance. It's insurance that they pay for, not welfare. http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfa....cfm?Docid=541 |
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So what happens to the long term unemployed people, where does their money come from or dont they get anything after the money they put into the insurance has dried up and what about teenagers who havent worked, how do they live ? |
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