So I guess I may be voting Republican
 

Go Ron Paul! :thumbsup

Vote for Ron Paul, because we don't need the EPA! That's just intrusive big brother govt telling us what we can do with our own lakes rivers & streams. Fuck the Post Office too!

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China don't need the EPA!

I see you are talking about Ron Paul. If you're going to talk about someone you should try to read and understand their views first.

In his books Ron Paul clearly explains how regulations work in a free market without bureacracies like the EPA getting in the way.

In other words, getting rid of the EPA does not automatically mean pollution is going to run rampant, as you are implying. There is a lot more to it than that.

Good for you, it's a lot better than voting for any of those other establishment shills...

There is a reason the EPA was formed. :2 cents:

I can make pointless posts too, watch:

"There is a reason the FDA was formed."

Yes there is a lot of wishful thinking in Ron Paul's policies I must admit. I think we can clearly see how well deregulation works and how upstanding corporate America is with fine examples of the Banking issues we have had as of late. Not to mention Enron and the long list of other corporate giants that have always put profit before good of people or country.

We have things like the EPA because companies have shown in the past, they are not capable of doing the right thing when profit is involved unless they are made to do so by threat of large fines and even then some test their luck.

Property laws. Look it up.

Give the guy a break, at his age he doesn't remember too many words.

Property laws don't regulate pollution. Thinking states would do it just shows you don't really know what you are saying. You should really look into what companies have done in the past specifically oil giants and the many smaller oil companies that littered the oil fields before tit turned to just large corporations.

That's just one industry, but there are countless examples of why the EPA now exists.

Not directly. But try fucking up someone else's property in any way (including polluting it) and see how far that gets you.

Ron Paul is for abortion. Can imagine, all the stupid pregnant kids, thieves, rapists, pedo's, all breading in mass? Great idea to try and save a couple bucks on taxes. I like his constitutional views, but his ethics are set for simple minds and we are not in a simple time.

What Ron Paul tries to explain in his books is his own idealistic academic theories that have no practical applications in the real world. What kills me about the guy is that he makes statements like this as if they're facts without any evidence to back any of them up and all of his supporters just unquestioningly eat the shit up and then spit it back out verbatim all over the net; their fanaticism knows no bounds.

Bingo... Ron Paul lives in some fantasy world where businesses will operate with ethics... Yeah.. There's soooooo much proof that they do that.. Just look at what oil companies do in third world countries where they can do whatever they want.

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Yes. It is called population control.
You are the first person I ever hear say that.

What antironpaulites try to explain is taking his own idealistic theories from books and state them as political views or stances he will take as a president. They unquestionably eat the shit up and spit it back out verbatim all over the net like Ron Paul is a giant evil crazy guy who will destroy the world. Their fanaticism knows no bounds.

If you crazy republicans can put Paul up as the candidate, I will vote for him.

I will do it as revenge, but it's a guaranteed vote.

Ron Paul will never be President because he will end the occupation of the US military around the world. The power that be will never let that happen.

Ron Paul also wants to cut the defense budget in half.

Who was the last person to promise change? Well, how did that go?

Yeah... That's exactly what I said and believe... I can really see how you came up with that based on my statement about Ron Paul... Moron...

http://counterparties.com/

from counterparies, the econ/business aggregator today...

http://blogs.wsj.com/totalreturn/201...KEYWORDS=zweig

At our request, William Bernstein, an investment manager at Efficient Portfolio Advisors in Eastford, Conn., reviewed Rep. Paul?s portfolio as set out in the annual disclosure statement. Mr. Bernstein says he has never seen such an extreme bet on economic catastrophe. ?This portfolio is a half-step away from a cellar-full of canned goods and nine-millimeter rounds,? he says.

There are many possible doomsday scenarios for the U.S. economy and financial markets, explains Mr. Bernstein, and Rep. Paul?s portfolio protects against only one of them: unexpected inflation accompanied by a collapse in the value of the dollar. If deflation (to name one other possibility) occurs instead, ?this portfolio is at great risk? because of its lack of bonds and high exposure to gold.

Running an investment portfolio that protects against only one bad outcome is like living in California and buying homeowner?s insurance that protects only against earthquakes, says Mr. Bernstein. You also want protection against fire and wind and theft and the full range of risks that houses are prone to. Likewise, he adds, investors should hold a broad mix of assets that will hold up under a variety of good and bad scenarios.

A spokeswoman for Rep. Paul didn?t respond to requests for comment. But you can say this for Ron Paul: In investing, as in politics, he has the courage of his convictions.

Paul's Positions Play Well in Iowa:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...toWhatsNewsTop

Everyone says the guy is only popular with internet people. But when you watch the debates he is getting far more applause than any of the other candidates. Apparently everyone has access to the internet and there are no "internet people"? His popularity is simply the majority of the population agreeing with his views. Who would have thought that..
:2 cents:

And many people think his ideas are radical and out there. "If he does [this] then [this] will happen", but don't listen to him explain WHY he wants to do it and WHY it will work. We definitely could use a radical and out there change right now.

Just my opinion. I don't know anything about this shit though and hate politics so maybe that's why I like the guy. The people in the audience, the majority of military that donate to him, etc. must not know anything either.

lol. nope

Just hopes it does happen ... maybe those imperialist fuctards would wake up .. and see the other side of the coin ... War on US soil would be a good thing !

His personal view on abortion is immaterial when it comes to the election.. His policy on it though is one of pro-choice...

Isn't it actually the other way around?

His personal view on abortion is pro-choice. His policy on it is that it should be left up to the states.

The libertarian argument against the EPA is not that environmental vigilance is unnecessary.

The argument is that a property rights approach is more effective and more honest way to deal with environmental problems.. as opposed to a big government/ bureaucratic/ political/ top down approach.

In others words: you pollute, and your neighbors will sue.

guess you guys didn't read about Newt Saving online porn

http://www.ynot.com/content/117421-d...aved-porn.html

What's your point? You think Ron Paul is going to shut down internet porn or something? lol

He believes in freedom of speech and expression, especially when it comes to the internet.

No.. His personal view is that it's killing a baby... His policy is that the federal government shouldn't have any legislation to ban it (although he then turned around and voted for a ban) and he kicks the can down to the states to decide and make them fight it out in the courts regarding it's constitutionality. And then for those that still want an abortion, they can ride the Ron Paul abortion bus to a state that allows it. Yep. He actually said buses to other states. So everything about his policy is pro-choice, sort of, while his personal view is that it's murder.

Yeeeeeaahhhhh.. And that will work out so well since tort reform is something each state is eager to do to please big business thus making it impossible for the neighbors to actually sue for that sort of thing.

My bad, for some reason I wrote his personal view is pro-choice, when I obviously meant to put pro-life. lol

For such a lackey you sure have not figured him out yet.

It's prearranged

You must have missed my comment above yours where I said I made a mistake.

So all the money now spent on the EPA will have to be spent on maintaining a vastly larger legal system and handling an endless stream of lawsuits. The corporations will be stripped of teh protections of regulation and juries will decide what's pollution and ehat isn't.

And a whole new body of regulations constructed to make sure the legal system is fair and commonly available to all.

And everybody will have to study law all the time.

I like it. Everybody will have to get much smarter, fast, or be destroyed in the courts, and that has to be good.

This was always my favorite part of libertarian theory - lawsuits instead of regulations. Nobody will be able to do anything, but the insurers against lawsuits will get rich as midas. It will drive the corporations out of the country faster than anything you could do.

well if there is a ron paul presidency you may be back at work cleaning up oil spills. you can see that as an upside i guess.

http://ww4report.com/node/10660

his voting record tells another story. he has tried to get it banned at the federal level. please explain this apparent contradiction.

I saw it later, but doesn't matter. You should know that like Obama should know there are not 57 states.

The EPA causes oil spills with all their regulations. Let the oil companies do their thing. They know how to do it without rules that just cause additional costs that are passed along to the consumer.

Regardless, you have to admit, this is a whole lot of cheese...

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I am so jaded now that I think they're realizing we're onto the two party system being a joke so they'll toss him in and when nothing changes we'll stop blaming it on two sides not getting along.

Rest assured, if he does win Congress and the powers that be will neuter him in no time. Remember, he is still career politican, he is just coming from another angle.

I only recently became jaded when we got Bush I, Bush II and then Bush III with Obama. Praying Jeb doesn't run in '16 or '20.

You guys need a leader who not only knows what's needed but isn't afraid to throw naysayers over the top rope to get those changes passed.

Jesse Ventura in 2016.

A vote for Obama is a vote for national suicide.

The scary thing is, I have had 3 or 4 people mention his name in the last few days. Primarily as a Paul running mate. Not just here at GFY with the lunatic fringe.

Your post only proves the inefficiency of massive dictatorial government like the Chinese have.
And USA is copying streams like this will be the future of USA too it seems.
Pay trillions of dollars to you dictatorial government and now the water in USA looks just like CHina already. Only USA does it Black tactical style instead of your dirty red communist color..
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If Paul were running in the VP slot on that ticket it would make things very interesting I think.

Last few days? You make it sound like it's something new.

People have been mentioning Jesse Ventura as a running mate for Ron Paul since like 2007. They kinda go hand in hand. lol

It's a shame that most people don't take Ventura seriously though.

Unfortunately he's even easier to paint as a "nutjob" because of how he looks and speaks.

Some truth from Jesse: