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porno jew 01-19-2012 04:21 PM

So Paysite Sales Should Go Up Now?
 
megaupload had a good chunk of total internet traffic, so logic should dictate there should be a increase in sales? amirite?

Wizzo 01-19-2012 04:27 PM

Only if you have magic join links... :winkwink:

yuu.design 01-19-2012 04:28 PM

we wish :)

Barefootsies 01-19-2012 04:29 PM

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Right now there is a GFY member(s) reading this, and thinking on how to capitalize.

:2 cents:

harvey 01-19-2012 04:29 PM

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BIGTYMER 01-19-2012 04:29 PM

Might see a slight bump.

porno jew 01-19-2012 04:30 PM

i'm not trolling. serious question.

harvey 01-19-2012 04:30 PM

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harvey 01-19-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18699028)
i'm not trolling. serious question.

I just found these fine gifs :)

FlexxAeon 01-19-2012 04:32 PM

perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump

Wizzo 01-19-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18699028)
i'm not trolling. serious question.

There's plenty of people joining paysites every day, just likely not many of them are the same as someone who uses Megaupload, though Fabian in his keynote speech said they made sales from their PB ads, so I guess it could be possible.

tonyparra 01-19-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18699034)
perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump

:2 cents::2 cents:

blackmonsters 01-19-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18699000)
megaupload had a good chunk of total internet traffic, so logic should dictate there should be a increase in sales? amirite?

Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.

epitome 01-19-2012 04:35 PM

Might see a bump. The problem is that people know Mega Upload isn't the be all ... they know of the other sites out there.

There are still lots of file lockers almost as big that need to go as well (and probably will).

What will be good is that some sites should see better SERPs since they won't be pointing there anymore.

What's surprising to me is how helpful authorities have been in other countries in rounding up the people that ran MU. I'm sure the owners and employees of other sites are shitting their pants and wondering if they're safe where they live/work.

JosephFM 01-19-2012 04:38 PM

My ARS and Dollar Machine stats are up the roof today!!

If this keeps up I will fucking buy MANWIN come next week!

Hentaikid 01-19-2012 04:41 PM

For a while now download link sites put the links to half a dozen file lockers so when one gets taken down the others still work. Still mu was one of the biggest and most used for large files like full movies and episodes

seeandsee 01-19-2012 04:43 PM

nothing else than bump of sales, this must raise now

Fabien 01-19-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18699042)
Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.


Yeah ! But it depends of the amount of free legal stuff shown on sites too :Oh crap
But i did get a hard on :thumbsup

newB 01-19-2012 04:46 PM

Unlikely.

The winners will be the other filelockers, torrents, tubes, and any other place their users can find the "free" pirated content they are looking for.

JosephFM 01-19-2012 04:54 PM

I remember last year i think it was when xvideos and a couple tube sites went down my traffic went triple the amount it had and a couple extra sales came thru, just for a couple of days, after they fixed their problem all went back to shit again.

Vjo 01-19-2012 04:57 PM

If 20 more big site owners get busted and lots of publicity like Kazaa and p2p.. maybe bust a few torrent uploaders.. who knows. Maybe a few guys might say fuck it and buy to stay safe.

Maybe this is just the beginning. It is a big f'n internet out there tho. Depends how serious the govt is on ending piracy.

epitome 01-19-2012 04:59 PM

I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.

newB 01-19-2012 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18699102)
I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.

And those who actually uploaded the content.

stocktrader23 01-19-2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 18699102)
I hope DOJ tries to make a really big statement by also going after the affiliates of Mega Upload. The one's that fill up the forums with video thumbs and an affiliate link to the full version at Mega Upload.

This is who they should be going after to start with, and hard. You see it takes years and years to bring a case against the main company. How hard would it be instead to go to court and prove that their USERS are uploading stolen shit left and right and force the company to turn over a list of affiliates. Arrest each and every fucking one of them and see who wants to keep pushing.

Supz 01-19-2012 05:41 PM

sureee they will.

ArsewithClass 01-19-2012 05:48 PM

People shall always buy porn especially unsaturated sites & paysites that you have not tried to convert yet... :thumbsup

Splum 01-19-2012 05:51 PM

People wont buy more of your crappy porn, high quality shit MAYBE but there is very little high quality here on GFY.

The people that got busted today are free loaders they will NEVER pay for your crap, you should have been smart like the tubes and offered them marketing that would turn them into paying customers.

signupdamnit 01-19-2012 06:11 PM

There should be a small bump. Thousands of pirated full scene links just went dead. Most will have links to other hosts but some won't.

DWB 01-19-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18699042)
Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.

This. :2 cents:

DWB 01-19-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 18699221)
People wont buy more of your crappy porn, high quality shit MAYBE but there is very little high quality here on GFY.

The people that got busted today are free loaders they will NEVER pay for your crap, you should have been smart like the tubes and offered them marketing that would turn them into paying customers.

You trollin or you not really in the porn business?

There is a nut for every bolt. The amateur market is HUGE.

raymor 01-19-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlexxAeon (Post 18699034)
perhaps if it's competitors start retreating with policy changes. otherwise they will see the bump


Yeah the other ones have to be thinking real hard right now. Megaupload didn't just get taken down, the principals who encouraged theft went to JAIL. That has to have the others thinking about how to change their business model.

anexsia 01-19-2012 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18699216)
People shall always buy porn especially unsaturated sites & paysites that you have not tried to convert yet... :thumbsup

This. I just bought a membership the other day to a website I have been promoting because they offered some really unique and great content.

There's some porn companies here that seem to want to blame it all on piracy and tubes instead of looking at their own product and realizing that it's shit that's been done way to many times before and offers absolutely nothing new. Sure piracy hurts, but if you're trying to sell memberships to a paysite that sucks or has a million pre-checked cross-sales or offers nothing unique or the same old boring shit you can find anywhere else then you should be putting the blame on yourself as well. With crap like Media Revenue was pulling, can you really blame customers for being hesitant to buy a membership?

Don't get me wrong, piracy does hurt, but I also think some are using it as an excuse to other problems.

nikki99 01-19-2012 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 18699020)
Only if you have magic join links... :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ArsewithClass 01-19-2012 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18699382)
This. I just bought a membership the other day to a website I have been promoting because they offered some really unique and great content.

There's some porn companies here that seem to want to blame it all on piracy and tubes instead of looking at their own product and realizing that it's shit that's been done way to many times before and offers absolutely nothing new. Sure piracy hurts, but if you're trying to sell memberships to a paysite that sucks or has a million pre-checked cross-sales or offers nothing unique or the same old boring shit you can find anywhere else then you should be putting the blame on yourself as well. With crap like Media Revenue was pulling, can you really blame customers for being hesitant to buy a membership?

Don't get me wrong, piracy does hurt, but I also think some are using it as an excuse to other problems.

Absolutely.. Piracy & tubes shall always hurt sales, as does the online business for shops, but still stores were making money this christmas :2 cents:

I agree that a site needs a usp. With our content, most of the time, it's just the usual footage, but I do go out of my way to try to provide our members with something unique or at least different, especially different to the usual solo or amateur sites. Even if the scene is going to be a girl boy facial, I try to either have the model spied on by the fella first, or maybe as we're doing tomorrow, a simple masturbation scene turned into an ass licking set when a fella bursts in the door, probably made out to be a work colleague, setting at work :winkwink:

Just a little difference to the content can make it more appealing for the viewer to enjoy :thumbsup

ArsewithClass 01-19-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18699321)
You trollin or you not really in the porn business?

There is a nut for every bolt. The amateur market is HUGE.

Leave the trolls to troll :2 cents:


The time is now & the going is going to get a little tougher for those that are not really dedicated to the business we are in :thumbsup

Operator 01-19-2012 07:17 PM

Good job on seven thousand posts :)

porno jew 01-20-2012 05:22 PM

meh ga ... meh ga.

Why 01-20-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newB (Post 18699076)
Unlikely.

The winners will be the other filelockers, torrents, tubes, and any other place their users can find the "free" pirated content they are looking for.

QFT, the traffic will just go elsewhere, these people are trained on free.

Makaveli 01-20-2012 09:24 PM

No chance....

porno jew 01-20-2012 09:29 PM

no traffic increase on my link list.

sojproductions 01-20-2012 11:48 PM

no way it will happen overnight, those in it for the longhaul will see the benefit if more sites are shut down over the coming months.

lucas131 01-20-2012 11:52 PM

they should go mega up! load

NetHorse 01-21-2012 04:04 AM

Psshh. This is apart of the fallacy that plagues this forum. As if a couple tube sites or file sharing sites being taken down will change things to how they used to be.

Like it or not, their business model has forever changed this industry, get used to it. Someone will gladly take their place, and those users who relied on megaupload will find it before they find your site and buy a subscription. :)

gideongallery 01-21-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 18699042)
Even if every infringing site went down today nothing would happen right away.

People who are used to free downloads would just sit there waiting for free downloads
to come back. They would spend all day looking for a site that didn't go down and
try to figure out other ways to get free downloads.

But if infringing sites stay down permanently a "new generation" of surfers that never
got free downloads will buy and many old generation freeloaders will eventually cave in and buy also.

and if magic rainbows rained money we all be rich.

DamianJ 01-21-2012 09:26 AM

What if everyone was wrong about piracy?

http://adultmarketing.co.uk/2010/04/...-about-piracy/

V_RocKs 01-21-2012 09:32 AM

Just because you throw out the trash, the roaches will now go away?

DarkJedi 01-21-2012 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18701796)
no traffic increase on my link list.

my TGP2 is kinda slow as well

:(

anexsia 01-21-2012 11:02 AM

Unless Megaupload's downfall somehow got all these sponsors/content producers to stop producing and putting out shitty generic porn...nope sales are same.

anexsia 01-21-2012 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18702433)
What if everyone was wrong about piracy?

http://adultmarketing.co.uk/2010/04/...-about-piracy/

Great article. Sure I could pirate games off Pirate Bay, but instead I buy them off Steam because the prices are good, it's easily accessed, and I can buy the games that are good. I could also pirate just about any movie out there, but I like the convenience of Netflix and their delivery system...their price is still pretty good as well.

So when it comes to porn....If I want to buy a membership to some place, oh wait...all the shit is the same why the fuck would I want to buy a membership? And if I did, what can I look forward to? My credit card charged multiple times? Having to go through tons of bullshit to cancel my membership? Getting access just to discover there is hardly any movies or good pictures like the tour showed?

V_RocKs 01-21-2012 11:21 AM

Pirates abound


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