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atalkingapple 07-18-2012 09:23 PM

How important are Alexa ratings?
 
My US Alexa rating is 290,087 Is that good or bad?

VenusBlogger 07-18-2012 09:39 PM

it doesn't matter, it's over-rated.

some sites with 100K daily have 300,000 alexa, while some sites with 5K daily have 150,000, really no sense factor.

PIRIOD.

CampHost 07-18-2012 09:42 PM

VenusBlogger is correct it don't mean shit unless you are selling your site to a dummy who thinks it means shit...

sandman! 07-18-2012 09:43 PM

anything outside of the top 20k dont matter.

i have had multiple sites in the top 10k over the years

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 09:44 PM

Oh ok. I read on line that that a sites alexa rating is how most people that are interested in advertising on your website go by.

bean-aid 07-18-2012 09:44 PM

Why is this asshat unbanned?

Fat Panda 07-18-2012 09:47 PM

in my experience alexa rankings mean shit and are often very wrong

BAKO 07-18-2012 09:52 PM

It matters

PIRIOD.

BIGTYMER 07-18-2012 09:57 PM

It's like keeping track of all the girls you fucked.

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19067847)
Why is this asshat unbanned?

Meet my little friend Mr Ignore Beanny baby....

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 19067845)
anything outside of the top 20k dont matter.

That's not true. Our site isn't in the top 20k and it makes tons of money. KellyMadison.com isn't in the top 20k and it makes a ton of money as well.

And what sites do you own that are in the top 20k? I'd like to check 'em out :)

19teenporn 07-18-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 19067860)
It matters

PIRIOD.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 19067871)
It's like keeping track of all the girls you fucked.

Lol. That is a unique way of looking at it i guess..

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19067839)
it doesn't matter, it's over-rated.

some sites with 100K daily have 300,000 alexa, while some sites with 5K daily have 150,000, really no sense factor.

PIRIOD.

That's because some sites are fed bullshit popup traffic that they bought...while other sites get REAL traffic. The alexa script counts time on the page and bounce rates too.

The "fake" traffic is what takes the ranking down because there is 0 time on the site and a 100% bounce rate too.

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:05 PM

So all an all im seeing mixed feelings about the subject. The only reason it would matter to me is if that is what advertisers base the amount they are willing to pay you off of.

blackmonsters 07-18-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalkingapple (Post 19067888)
So all an all im seeing mixed feelings about the subject. The only reason it would matter to me is if that is what advertisers base the amount they are willing to pay you off of.

It can tell you if a site is basically dead or if it's one of the top sites on the internet;
but nothing in between that is reliable.

Sites that have webmaster traffic can rank high because a lot of webmasters use
the alexa toolbar. For that reason it appears that GFY's alexa ranking is grossly
inaccurate. Each post on the first page should have 3000 views if the alexa
rank was correct. :1orglaugh

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalkingapple (Post 19067888)
So all an all im seeing mixed feelings about the subject. The only reason it would matter to me is if that is what advertisers base the amount they are willing to pay you off of.

It's not exact. Think of it like the Neilsen Ratings for television.
Not a true exact measure of traffic, but a good slice that is pretty damn close.

When I look at my google analytics numbers and then at alexa, they are pretty close.

Close enough to be able to judge a site's popularity for sure.

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19067904)
It can tell you if a site is basically dead or if it's one of the top sites on the internet;
but nothing in between that is reliable.

Sites that have webmaster traffic can rank high because a lot of webmasters use
the alexa toolbar. For that reason it appears that GFY's alexa ranking is grossly
inaccurate. Each post on the first page should have 3000 views if the alexa
rank was correct. :1orglaugh

I don't know any webmaster that uses Alexa toolbar. Most people with any web experience stay away from all toolbars and anything else that would corrupt their internet experience.

Do you use it?

blackmonsters 07-18-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067908)
I don't know any webmaster that uses Alexa toolbar. Most people with any web experience stay away from all toolbars and anything else that would corrupt their internet experience.

Do you use it?

Bull. Webmasters went nuts with the google toolbar and the page rank stuff.

I don't use alexa toolbar but webmasters who think it means something do use it.

I wouldn't be surprised if alexa and google are trading information from their tool
bars either.

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067908)
I don't know any webmaster that uses Alexa toolbar. Most people with any web experience stay away from all toolbars and anything else that would corrupt their internet experience.

Do you use it?

No, i dont use toolbars. They come with to much crap attatched to them.

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19067927)
Bull. Webmasters went nuts with the google toolbar and the page rank stuff.

I don't use alexa toolbar but webmasters who think it means something do use it.

I wouldn't be surprised if alexa and google are trading information from their tool
bars either.

Maybe some b.s. webmasters. But I do not know even ONE guy who is in this business that uses alexa toolbar.

I even make sure to sign out of my google account and turn off the personalized search before I use google search engine because I want to see it clean.

Every serious guy out there is the same way (including you). It's our business to know how things really look on the net. You know what I'm saying.

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:40 PM

Having said that...I do have a theory how GFY has such a high ranking.

It's possible that it's due to the time on the site. I know that I usually keep GFY open on a tab all day long while I'm working. I come back and check stuff and read stuff in between tasks. And looking at the posting and lurking habits of others, I think a lot of people do.

blackmonsters, do you think that might be a reason for the ranking? Time on the site making it look like people are really spending all day on the site (because of the open tab) even though they are in and out in reality?

LouiseLloyd 07-18-2012 10:42 PM

Everything matters.

Oh and by the way it's Period!

Piriod

bean-aid 07-18-2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067943)
Having said that...I do have a theory how GFY has such a high ranking.

It's possible that it's due to the time on the site. I know that I usually keep GFY open on a tab all day long while I'm working. I come back and check stuff and read stuff in between tasks. And looking at the posting and lurking habits of others, I think a lot of people do.

blackmonsters, do you think that might be a reason for the ranking? Time on the site making it look like people are really spending all day on the site (because of the open tab) even though they are in and out in reality?

You realize you are responding to a guy who brags about making $7 right? In fact, he started this thread...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1074738

Which then started this thread...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075136

The guy is a loser for sure.

sandman! 07-18-2012 10:47 PM

no need to hate i hit 9300 or so before with a 100-200k a day tgp a few years ago

dont own anything in the top 20k nowdays tho i focus on non adult stuff :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067876)
That's not true. Our site isn't in the top 20k and it makes tons of money. KellyMadison.com isn't in the top 20k and it makes a ton of money as well.

And what sites do you own that are in the top 20k? I'd like to check 'em out :)


atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19067948)
You realize you are responding to a guy who brags about making $7 right? In fact, he started this thread...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1074738

Which then started this thread...

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1075136

The guy is a loser for sure.

Brags? I see no form of bragging in any of those post. And if im a loser your pretty much stalking my threads so what dose that make you? "Cool"? Get a life man...

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 19067951)
no need to hate i hit 9300 or so before with a 100-200k a day tgp a few years ago

dont own anything in the top 20k nowdays tho i focus on non adult stuff :)

claudia-marie.com was 8,000 to 8,500 from 2007 to the latter part of 2008 and then piracy broke out big time and we all got pushed way down. :(

Everybody flocked to the free full scenes I guess. That's why I was wondering what you had that was above a 20k ranking. I was thinking it must be something NOT porn. lol

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalkingapple (Post 19067952)
Brags? I see no form of bragging in any of those post. And if im a loser your pretty much stalking my threads so what dose that make you? "Cool"? Get a life man...

Oh and it wasn't $7....... It was $6.95....

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067953)
claudia-marie.com was 8,000 to 8,500 from 2007 to the latter part of 2008 and then piracy broke out big time and we all got pushed way down. :(

Everybody flocked to the free full scenes I guess. That's why I was wondering what you had that was above a 20k ranking. I was thinking it must be something NOT porn. lol

Installing the Alexa toolbar don"t help you ratings dose it?

Robbie 07-18-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalkingapple (Post 19067958)
Installing the Alexa toolbar don"t help you ratings dose it?

I guess it would give you one more visitor to your site (you) that Alexa could count. lol

Dude...don't EVER install ANY toolbar. They download shit on you and hijack your browser.

AllAboutCams 07-18-2012 11:00 PM

i have low and high and there is no difference in traffic

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067966)
I guess it would give you one more visitor to your site (you) that Alexa could count. lol

Dude...don't EVER install ANY toolbar. They download shit on you and hijack your browser.

That is the only reason i haven't installed one yet. Most of them are pretty much viruses.

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067943)
Having said that...I do have a theory how GFY has such a high ranking.

It's possible that it's due to the time on the site. I know that I usually keep GFY open on a tab all day long while I'm working. I come back and check stuff and read stuff in between tasks. And looking at the posting and lurking habits of others, I think a lot of people do.

blackmonsters, do you think that might be a reason for the ranking? Time on the site making it look like people are really spending all day on the site (because of the open tab) even though they are in and out in reality?

Im not sure if bounce rate has any effect on rankings or not. Up until today i never really had any interest in Alexa rankings. I mainly kept my eyes on Google PR.

19teenporn 07-18-2012 11:07 PM

Good for trading with "i do not trade with sites above 100k alexa" kind of TGP owners?

atalkingapple 07-18-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 19067980)
Good for trading with "i do not trade with sites above 100k alexa" kind of TGP owners?

I have been thinking about starting a TGP. Is there better money in that then tube sites?

freecartoonporn 07-19-2012 12:07 AM

depends............
on selling or buying a site

Paul Markham 07-19-2012 12:13 AM

Traffic to a site is the worse guide to success. But the only one we have.

Anyone got a better method of judging?

atalkingapple 07-19-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19068050)
Traffic to a site is the worse guide to success. But the only one we have.

Anyone got a better method of judging?

I try to go off of the " content is king " rule. Give visitors what they want and keep fresh updates not only will they return but they are more likely to spread the word. A lot of successful business owners will tell you that word of mouth advertising is the best.

Paul Markham 07-19-2012 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atalkingapple (Post 19068074)
I try to go off of the " content is king " rule. Give visitors what they want and keep fresh updates not only will they return but they are more likely to spread the word. A lot of successful business owners will tell you that word of mouth advertising is the best.

Ultimately it's the content on a tour that determines whether a membership is bought. Showing the surfer great content before he gets to a tour, helps a lot.

GGurls 07-19-2012 03:33 AM

Alexa is full OF SHIT... there is no rhyme or reason to how they rank sites.. that fucking bar moves however it wants to..

Freaky_Akula 07-19-2012 03:35 AM

It is of no significance. Just like you.

sandman! 07-19-2012 03:44 AM

that was to stop noobs from trying to trade with you

nothing more no half ass tgp back in the day was over 100k

100k is pathetic when it comes to mass traffic tgp's :2 cents:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19teenporn (Post 19067980)
Good for trading with "i do not trade with sites above 100k alexa" kind of TGP owners?


Kolargol 07-19-2012 03:48 AM

I thought it didn't matter until I started selling hardlinks. Then I received a couple of "Alexa ranking is too low" emails so I guess it does matter to some of us.

MrCain 07-19-2012 04:09 AM

It only matters to idiots.

GARY LEE 07-19-2012 04:19 AM

PR and Alexa both are like trophies, some people care about them and to some it's just one more thing to dust around the house.
PR is mostly controlled through the number of backlinks to the site and Alexa is controlled by the amount of ALEXA TOOLBAR TRAFFIC.
I believe GFY has such a good Alexa rank for several reasons.
1. Many webmasters and traffic guys DO have the alexa toolbar installed. Also people who work in the ad industry, Juicyads for instance, rank and value the money to be made on a site by alexa. Not perfect but the best thing going at the moment.
2. Robbies right in GFY members spending a considerable amount of time on site, good for Alexa ranking. Also moving from one page to another a frequent amount of times all increases the score for our own GFY.
3. The sheer numbers of visitors coming to view the GFY site all help to contribute to our great alexa ranking and should help quiet down the assholes out there that keep posting threads stating the porn business is over and we're all headed for gloom and doom.
We're cool, enjoy it!

CamTraffic 07-19-2012 04:37 AM

Nice to have a nice Alexa ranking if you are selling prepaid on your site(s)
Lot of adult companies bought the Adult Alexa list (yes, they sell it) and are buying left and right if you are ranking on that list...

That being said, i don't agree with Sandman, Niched sites under 100k Alexa still bring in the $$

19teenporn 07-19-2012 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 19068191)
that was to stop noobs from trying to trade with you

nothing more no half ass tgp back in the day was over 100k

100k is pathetic when it comes to mass traffic tgp's :2 cents:

I know that. Just saying that's the only use to alexa traffic.

And for selling ads or links.

blackmonsters 07-19-2012 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19067943)
Having said that...I do have a theory how GFY has such a high ranking.

It's possible that it's due to the time on the site. I know that I usually keep GFY open on a tab all day long while I'm working. I come back and check stuff and read stuff in between tasks. And looking at the posting and lurking habits of others, I think a lot of people do.

blackmonsters, do you think that might be a reason for the ranking? Time on the site making it look like people are really spending all day on the site (because of the open tab) even though they are in and out in reality?

Yeah that makes sense. I didn't think time on site could cause a ranking like that.
Pages views is going to be huge also.

I still think the rank is not accurate because thehun is ranked lower then gfy and if
I'm counting straight traffic then I have to go with thehun should out rank gfy.

blackmonsters 07-19-2012 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 19068196)
I thought it didn't matter until I started selling hardlinks. Then I received a couple of "Alexa ranking is too low" emails so I guess it does matter to some of us.

Same here.

I guy on this board pretty much made a solid deal for me to list his content on
my front page and then changed his mind because of my alexa ranking.

I even told him that it would be conditional and taken down at his request if he
didn't think it was working out; but no, he stuck to the alexa rank.

Robbie 07-19-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19068286)

I still think the rank is not accurate because thehun is ranked lower then gfy and if
I'm counting straight traffic then I have to go with thehun should out rank gfy.

The Hun has many, many times the amount of traffic GFY has. But it's mainly a single page that all the traffic is at. And then they leave to go see the links on the page. Maybe that's part of the reason he i-framed everything recently to get his Alexa ranking up where it should be by keeping people from leaving and getting Alexa to see it as more time on the site (which he is justified in doing)


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