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Mutt 07-26-2012 02:22 AM

Thinking of promoting Wowgirls - how are the rebills?
 
Since it's a revshare program it would be nice to know how it rebills. Anybody have numbers?

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 02:33 AM

First 5-6 days i chose to promote them... sent them 35 sales

Of those 35, 3 have rebilled.

I was just about to contact their support and ask what is going on

I have a members area pass and the content looks good and the girls look good and it updates pretty frequently but probably not as much as most big multi girl sites. Looks like it updates once a day

Mutt 07-26-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081152)
First 5-6 days i chose to promote them... sent them 35 sales

Of those 35, 3 have rebilled.

I was just about to contact their support and ask what is going on

I have a members area pass and the content looks good and the girls look good and it updates pretty frequently but probably not as much as most big multi girl sites. Looks like it updates once a day

but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?

lucas131 07-26-2012 02:40 AM

my rebills sucks there too, and i have been also contacted by email asking me how are the rebills, if its not anyone of you, it looks like more people are not so happy with rebills there :2 cents:

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19081158)
but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?

All. I stopped pushing them after finding those numbers absurd.

Those numbers just dont add up IMO. Even with the worst content, i've seen better ratios. So something rubs me the wrong way.

Considering the quality of their content and models, the only explanation is that this content has been used before on their other sites/networks or just non exclusive but i dont believe either of these to be true.

Im not sure to be honest, maybe they can fill me in.

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19081160)
my rebills sucks there too, and i have been also contacted by email asking me how are the rebills, if its not anyone of you, it looks like more people are not so happy with rebills there :2 cents:

That was me. However i only really noticed when it was brought to my attention actually. So there are others most definitely

lucas131 07-26-2012 02:55 AM

oh ok, and as i said, maybe it have something to do with this?

wowgirls.com
younglegalporn.com

not sure, but the content really looks very similar ... :2 cents:

alf6300 07-26-2012 03:17 AM

Just looked at their join page http://wowgirls.com/join.html

It lets you choose between recurring and non-recurring. BUT there's no mention of any discount for recurring.

When you proceed to the CCBill actual form, you are just shown the option you have chosen in the prejoin (and you can't change it unless you go back to the previous page)

So my hunch would be: most people just choose "non recurring" in the prejoin. They are never told, in their flow, that there's a discount for recurring.

To me it looks like one of those tiny blunders that can cost very dearly to a business.

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 03:27 AM

Oh yeah I see what youre talking about, thats very strange of them to offer both and not really mention the discount! Big mistake.

Secondly, youre right, some of my sales are non recurring, about half. Still horrible rebill ratio though

So now theres two flaws, a bad rebill ratio and them giving two options without the mention of a discount for the recurring option.

Hopefully they address these issues and we can all make more money.

anexsia 07-26-2012 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081212)
Oh yeah I see what youre talking about, thats very strange of them to offer both and not really mention the discount! Big mistake.

Secondly, youre right, some of my sales are non recurring, about half. Still horrible rebill ratio though

So now theres two flaws, a bad rebill ratio and them giving two options without the mention of a discount for the recurring option.

Hopefully they address these issues and we can all make more money.

Sorry to bring this off topic but I see that the Hailey Leigh page says coming August 1st...is that when it will be available to promote through Solo Revenue?

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 19081215)
Sorry to bring this off topic but I see that the Hailey Leigh page says coming August 1st...is that when it will be available to promote through Solo Revenue?

Whoops, thanks, i will update that, sadly its 2 weeks behind. Had something set me back a couple weeks. Only reason it will take 2 weeks, has to be approved by Visa/Mastercard still. Also thinking of switching my affiliate tools software, want to start offering flash banners.

anexsia 07-26-2012 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081226)
Whoops, thanks, i will update that, sadly its 2 weeks behind. Had something set me back a couple weeks. Only reason it will take 2 weeks, has to be approved by Visa/Mastercard still. Also thinking of switching my affiliate tools software, want to start offering flash banners.

Cool, thanks :)

Roald 07-26-2012 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081162)
All. I stopped pushing them after finding those numbers absurd.

Those numbers just dont add up IMO. Even with the worst content, i've seen better ratios. So something rubs me the wrong way.

Considering the quality of their content and models, the only explanation is that this content has been used before on their other sites/networks or just non exclusive but i dont believe either of these to be true.

Im not sure to be honest, maybe they can fill me in.

Correct me if im wrong but if all are still in their first billing period and can still rebill then how are the numbers off? Or am I reading this wrong?

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 19081240)
Correct me if im wrong but if all are still in their first billing period and can still rebill then how are the numbers off? Or am I reading this wrong?

I meant none, not 'all'

haha it's the middle of the night here

lucas131 07-26-2012 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19081158)
but how many of those 35 sales are still in their first billing period and still could rebill?

http://www.bratcash.com/catie_go_boom.gif

lol :thumbsup

anexsia 07-26-2012 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19081243)

I know right, this gif is funny as hell :1orglaugh

Roald 07-26-2012 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081241)
I meant none, not 'all'

haha it's the middle of the night here

Lol ok :thumbsup

Paul Markham 07-26-2012 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19081168)
oh ok, and as i said, maybe it have something to do with this?

wowgirls.com
younglegalporn.com

not sure, but the content really looks very similar ... :2 cents:

Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat. :Oh crap

alf6300 07-26-2012 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19081280)
Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat. :Oh crap

Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.

Pseudonymous 07-26-2012 05:27 AM

I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.

alf6300 07-26-2012 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081380)
I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.

Awesome, happy to be helpful, I'll ask them for a gift for my birthday, and you should ask for one too :pimp

lucas131 07-26-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 19081495)
Awesome, happy to be helpful, I'll ask them for a gift for my birthday, and you should ask for one too :pimp

i want this girl for my birthday

http://candidlooks.com/corp/wp-conte.../IMG_00381.jpg

please

diesel 07-26-2012 07:06 AM

Thank you guys for bringing it up. Nothing makes my day nicer than talking about our lovely products )

The content of Wow Girls is exclusive and absolutely amazing. There is no any problem with rebills and we have outstanding reviews across all review sites and a lot of positive members. Just to show few from thebestporn.com

http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=71347
http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=72899
http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=71849
http://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=72038

We have also added our popular and exclusive live shows just a week ago and it's a free add on.

However, there is indeed a problem with % of rec and non rec sales and I am glad this post came up, I am taking care of it right now. We were blind by success of sales during beta testing and didnt notice the shift of sales to non recurring memberships. This issue will be fixed and tested during the weekend. Thanks again!

diesel 07-26-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19081280)
Same tour, new content sometimes and new domain. Rinse and repeat. :Oh crap

This is entertaining. I love your avatar.

diesel 07-26-2012 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 19081316)
Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.

You got it right. We also created a lot of tools and monitoring systems around this tour which gives us a lot of information how to improve it and we release new version of it every few months. What you see on WowGirls is the latest generation of tour which is a monster in terms of sales.

Paul Markham 07-26-2012 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 19081316)
Personally I like the 'tour', it looks much less pornish and tourish than most stuff around. I wouldn't mind as a surfer if the tour concept is used on more than one site - as long as obviously the content is not the same.

So do I. Never said anything was wrong and doing it this way might make previous members feel more confident. Might make a few suspect they have seen the content and getting the non recurring to test it. Just a theory.

alf6300 07-26-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19081507)
i want this girl for my birthday

http://candidlooks.com/corp/wp-conte.../IMG_00381.jpg

please

when is your birthday? :xmas-smil16

Yanks_Todd 07-26-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19081380)
I was contacted by diesel, apparently rebills were fine and that only 8 sales were recurring!! Theres no way to go into stats and get an accurate number of which ones were recurring and which weren't so i just gave a rough estimation. turned out that not having the price difference on the page where they select recurring vs non recurring really makes a huge difference. because out of that many sales, only a handful selected recurring, for obvious reasons.

he'll be changing that and hopefully more people select recurring

This change should help them alot considering the length of success of a site highly depends on rebilling customers.

Hey Dude, shoot me an email or ICQ. Love to chat

adultmobile 07-26-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diesel (Post 19081711)
You got it right. We also created a lot of tools and monitoring systems around this tour which gives us a lot of information how to improve it and we release new version of it every few months. What you see on WowGirls is the latest generation of tour which is a monster in terms of sales.

wowgirls younglegalporn 18onlygirls -> very good. some old diesel stuff recycled here and there but was good stuff before anyway :)

Just a note beeg got 8 mins "previews":

http://beeg.com/3862777
http://beeg.com/4372084
http://beeg.com/8972165
http://beeg.com/5192148
http://beeg.com/7787061
http://beeg.com/7224874

Quite longer than the 16-20 seconds clips in wowgirls tour - but a 20 seconds clip in a tube it make no sense anyway...

diesel 07-26-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19082661)
wowgirls younglegalporn 18onlygirls -> very good. some old diesel stuff recycled here and there but was good stuff before anyway :)

Just a note beeg got 8 mins "previews":

http://beeg.com/3862777
http://beeg.com/4372084
http://beeg.com/8972165
http://beeg.com/5192148
http://beeg.com/7787061
http://beeg.com/7224874

Quite longer than the 16-20 seconds clips in wowgirls tour - but a 20 seconds clip in a tube it make no sense anyway...

Hey, thank you!

I am not a fan of long trailers on tours. Users come ready to join.

fuzebox 07-26-2012 04:43 PM

I would never have a non-recurring billing option. Recurring memberships are our lifeblood :2 cents:

Even my 90 days rebill.

lucas131 07-26-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alf6300 (Post 19082609)
when is your birthday? :xmas-smil16

anytime :winkwink:


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