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An interesting article on FriendFinder and their debt.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...e-finance.html
Full Text: "FriendFinder in Deadline as Sex Doesn?t Sell: Corporate Finance 2012-08-30 19:09:41.848 GMT (For more credit market news, click on TOP CM.) By Zeke Faux Aug. 30 (Bloomberg) -- FriendFinder Networks Inc., the owner of Penthouse magazine and a sex-dating website that has $511 million of debt, was given three months by its bondholders to turn around a business that has never reported a profit. FriendFinder?s $280.5 million of second-lien notes due 2014 plunged 28 percent this month to 12.5 cents on the dollar, the second lowest among the 2,063 bonds in the Bank of America Merrill Lynch U.S. High Yield Master II Index. Bondholders have given the company until Nov. 14 to raise its cash balance, Chief Financial Officer Ezra Shashoua said on an Aug. 14 conference call with investors. ?They?re probably going to have to go back to lenders and see if lenders are willing to change the terms of the debt,? said Standard & Poor?s analyst Daniel Haines in a telephone interview. He downgraded the Boca Raton, Florida-based company to CCC on Aug. 22 in a report, saying it ?could prove difficult? to refinance the debt. Anthony Previte, who took over as chief executive officer in July, is trying to cut costs and sell more subscriptions to people looking to meet for sex after the former chief Marc Bell?s push into online coupons failed. With just $12.8 million of cash as of June 30 and no profit since at least 2006, the company is struggling to generate enough money to pay off its obligations when they come due and to bring earnings in line with terms laid out in its debt agreement. In Compliance FriendFinder was either in compliance or had waivers for all of its debt covenants as of June 30, Shashoua said today in a telephone interview. The second-lien noteholders agreed this month to delay until November a rule that the company hold $10 million of cash, which FriendFinder had violated earlier, according to an Aug. 14 regulatory filing. Holders of those securities can?t demand to be paid before other investors. ?You have different options to get your cash reserves above $10 million,? Shashoua said. FriendFinder?s $213 million of first-lien notes due September 2013 dropped to 71.5 cents on the dollar on Aug. 1, from as high as 89 cents in March, according to Trace, the bond- price reporting system of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority. The securities jumped to 78.5 cents at 11 a.m. today. Since FriendFinder raised $50 million in its initial public offering in May 2011, its stock has plunged 93 percent to 68 cents at 2:55 p.m. today in New York. Shut Out Marsico Holdings LLC?s $603 million of 10.625 percent subordinated bonds due January 2020 are the only securities that trade cheaper than the FriendFinder second-lien notes in the Bank of America Merrill Lynch?s high-yield index. ?Generally, when a company?s existing bonds trade at a very low price, normally they?re shut out of the capital markets and have to restructure,? said Jeff Peskind, founder of Phoenix Investment Adviser LLC in New York, which manages $500 million, including distressed debt. Peskind said he doesn?t follow FriendFinder. ?There?s nothing going on at this point,? Bell, who?s now co-chairman of the board and chief strategy officer, said in a telephone interview. The bonds ?don?t come due soon,? he said. Previte said on the Aug. 14 conference call with analysts to discuss earnings that he?s working with bondholders on a refinancing that ?makes sense to everyone.? Earnings Requirement Bondholders agreed in March to modify the terms of the first- and second-lien debt to require $80 million of earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, or Ebitda, in the year ending June 30, 2013. FriendFinder?s Ebitda fell 19 percent to $88.3 million in 2011, Bloomberg data show, and is currently at $70 million for the last 12 months. Its ratio of debt to Ebitda, adjusted for leases, was ?very high? at 7.4 times as of June 30, according to S&P. FriendFinder?s CCC rating means it?s ?currently vulnerable? to nonpayment, according to S&P. Andrew Conru, one of the founders of AdultFriendFinder.com, is the company?s biggest creditor, with about $243 million of bonds, according to a Dec. 16 filing. Asked whether he would consider converting some of his second-lien notes to equity to lessen the company?s debt burden, Conru said he is ?currently investigating all options.? ?Everything depends on the terms,? he said in an e-mail. Hedge Funds Hedge funds Del Mar Master Fund Ltd., Rockview Short Alpha Fund Ltd., Stonehill Master Fund Ltd., Visium Credit Master Fund Ltd., Hayman Capital Master Fund LP and Zell Credit Opportunities Master Fund LP also hold bonds, the Dec. 16 filing shows. AdultFriendFinder.com, which helps people meet for sex, accounts for about 65 percent of the company?s revenue, S&P?s Haines wrote in the Aug. 22 report. The firm lost $31.1 million last year and reported interest expense of $86 million, eclipsing its $64.7 million of operating income. ?It?s sort of like a Facebook but for people who are trying to find adult partners,? Haines said. ?They also have live video chat. You would be paying the performer by the minute and then they?d be doing whatever they do.? One of Bell?s failed ventures was a transaction in September 2011 to buy an international daily-deals business called JigoCity. FriendFinder lost about $11.5 million on JigoCity this year, then sold the firm back to its previous owner for $1 on August 1, according to the Aug. 14 regulatory filing. Bell Purchase ?We were trying to find things that meshed within our business,? Bell said. ?We have a very big global reach.? FriendFinder?s corporate structure was created in 2007, when Bell and Daniel Staton struck a deal with Conru to buy his company for $401 million, according to the filing. Conru took the bulk of the price in bonds, the filing shows. The buyer was a firm Bell and Staton had formed four years earlier to purchase Penthouse out of bankruptcy. Staton owns 20.5 percent of FriendFinder, while Bell holds 16.5 percent, Bloomberg data show. On March 29, two days after bondholders agreed to loosen terms, FriendFinder said in a statement that Bell, who co-chairs the board of directors with Staton, would be replaced by Previte as CEO. Bell said the change wasn?t related to the debt amendment. ?I was contemplating a run for Congress,? said Bell, who told the Palm Beach Post about his plans in a March 8 article. ?After talking with my family, I decided it was not the right time.? For Related News and Information: Peer comparison: FFN US <Equity> PPC <GO> Relative value: FFN US <Equity> RV <GO> Corporate finance columns: NI CF <GO> --Editors: Richard Bravo, Shannon D. Harrington To contact the reporter on this story: Zeke Faux in New York at +1-212-617-2267 or [email protected] To contact the editor responsible for this story: Shannon D. Harrington at +1-212-617-8558 or [email protected]" |
AFF is the biggest dating site on the internet. How can they be $500 mil in the hole?
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they stopped paying their affiliates fairly and spent money on stupid shit
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Because they are a house of cards and the wind is starting to blow.
How many fake profiles do they have? |
I don't think I promote them but they sent me money yesterday haha - must still be a banner somewhere.
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I remember when everyone was holding AFF up as a prime example of how marvellous online porn was. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Let this be a lesson to all. |
its the debt they took on, not the viability of its online dating programs that's the problem.
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Even long before it was sold I never understood why they had so many random sites that may have had potential - ethnic dating, religious dating, free email - but they didn't really develop or give any incentive to promote.
The worst example was slim.com, a superb domain with phenomenal potential, given the diet industry is worth about $40 billion a year in the US alone, just utterly wasted. As for the criticism of not paying affiliates (or fairly): complete bullshit. |
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Big PPS promos and island get-a-ways for top affiliates.
Now they're hurtin. |
Yet here they are wasting money flying affiliates around on a private jet.
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They're trying to cut expenses anyway possible, that's why they just axed a huge portion of their white labels that weren't generating much income. This was a brilliant move:
"One of Bell’s failed ventures was a transaction in September 2011 to buy an international daily-deals business called JigoCity. FriendFinder lost about $11.5 million on JigoCity this year, then sold the firm back to its previous owner for $1 on August 1, according to the Aug. 14 regulatory filing." |
Your mileage may vary, but my experience was that I sent dozens of joins to Penthouse and never made dollar number one and they would regularly come up with reasons to delay paying me on my teeny AFF earnings -- all the while spamming like every site I own with disingenuous pitches from people with no authority to even log into my affiliate account, much less make a deal.
I eventually got tired of the Groundhog Day repetition of their nonsense and told them to keep the pittance they owe me and had Webair do a global search on my server for all their links so I could pull them. Maybe my pittance multiplied by every other webmaster they "lost" the info on or forgot what country they were in etc. helped their cash reserves for what their bond holders want, but that seems like a very very very short term solution to me. |
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Sex sells. It's just hard to make money at it. :1orglaugh
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Rampant waste and spending more than you take in doesn't work no matter how big you are. |
http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NASDAQ_FFN |
Relax, bond holders, your funds are in motion.
As for share holders - you're likely already flushed. Maybe they'll do a reverse-split to make the tiny stock price look bigger; to stay listed. |
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As it stands now, it's unusable DUE TO THE ALL CAPS and irritating background; may as well be just another cookie-cutter search page. |
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AFF looks like some country owned company where top politicians are using it to milk cash for them, i really dont see them in different light
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Problem is many public companies are run for the top dogs- upper management , Board of Directors, etc. Shareholders get fucked, vendors get fucked, employees fucked, etc. Would be interesting to see what would happen if the bondholders all refused to restructure debt terms. You would think vulture investors could come in buy enough debt and take over- it seems like that is what Bell did with Penthouse originally (which would be ironic) |
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If you are sending them traffic or selling ads on credit. Be warned. |
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ouch - "Andrew Conru, one of the founders of AdultFriendFinder.com, is the company’s biggest creditor, with about $243 million of bonds, according to a Dec. 16 filing. Asked whether he would consider converting some of his second-lien notes to equity to lessen the company’s debt burden, Conru said he is “currently investigating all options.” "
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Technically AFF makes $, as in their EBITDA is still positive. However when you take into account their debt agreements and interest, they lose money. The interest is drowning them.
Debtholders are getting concerned that their cash reserves are getting low, and EBITDA is shrinking (I believe the article said it dipped below $80M), and now they question whether the interest payments can continue to be made. Significant debt is coming due in the next year or so, and the company is not in a position to re-finance that debt. Lastly, they have gone public, and the shares have slid, so I am unsure of the realities of if the debtholders would want to exchange their debt for shares of the company. It will be interesting to see what the bondholders do, primarily Conru, who was the original owner, and a large holder of bonds. This is my take, for what it's worth. On some level they both may need to work together or they both can lose. Then there's also the possibility they prefer to trigger a creditor event and unsure what that would mean. Still trying to get my head around it. Curious what others think. |
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