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Badmaash 10-03-2012 06:40 AM

Lets say you business did not suceed
 
Hi

Okay, lets say that you launched an online business and for whatever reason it did not work out (recession), what would you do?

Lets say you do not have any capital to start a new one either.....

So you cannot sit around..... if your answer is to get a job then what kind of job would you be applying given that you now have business experience?

Thanks

B

Spunky 10-03-2012 06:51 AM

Always have worked with my hands and probably always will

Harmon 10-03-2012 06:52 AM

fluffer on a gay porn set

BlackCrayon 10-03-2012 07:53 AM

you must be a loser with no drive or ambition then. you should be able to start a business with nothing and live off dumpster diving in the meantime. otherwise, you're just a lazy worker bee....at least according to robbie, 12clicks, etc.

BIGTYMER 10-03-2012 07:58 AM

I'd follow my advice from your previous thread and make friends first.

DamageX 10-03-2012 08:02 AM

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/careers.html

CaptainHowdy 10-03-2012 09:41 AM

Fail better ...

wehateporn 10-03-2012 09:55 AM


wehateporn 10-03-2012 09:57 AM

If you're willing to put the hours in there are quick ways to make the $'s start rolling in on the Internet :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19227661)
Hi

Okay, lets say that you launched an online business and for whatever reason it did not work out (recession), what would you do?

Lets say you do not have any capital to start a new one either.....

So you cannot sit around..... if your answer is to get a job then what kind of job would you be applying given that you now have business experience?

Thanks

B


Va2k 10-03-2012 10:03 AM

I have had a few business start up and make some money then to my own fault they all died, not this time, i am putting no less then 13 hours a day on the pc and this week a lone I put in 42 hours with only bathroom breaks lol I will get it right this time with the relaunching of my site and the new sites I will be helping and running :) very excited ya know? But also I do a lot of grunt work to get a few dollars for smokes and bills I do galleries I just made 20 custom DVDs for a big company so that is the type of work I like doing till my own stuff starts back at making me good money!

mavruda 10-03-2012 10:21 AM

Never give up. Ask the people - along with trolling you will get constructive and good advise who would help you finding the best solution. Don't mind the trolls and orcs - just find your own solution, more courage and everything should come to the successful beginning (not end, since the end means game over)

Best of Luck !

Mavis.

2012 10-03-2012 10:22 AM

stop putting all your eggs in one basket for no suceed

2012 10-03-2012 10:23 AM

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brassmonkey 10-03-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19228388)

ahh ups or fedex :2 cents:

johnny_d 10-03-2012 10:28 AM

If it is adult try to find work on oDesk, or some other place like that. Find a cheap place to live, buy cheap food, and keep working on the business that did not succeed after work.

ottopottomouse 10-03-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 19229283)
Blaming the recession is for losers. Just another excuse that the unwashed masses with no knowledge use

You seem to have suffered a massive whack to the head and turned sensible all of a sudden.

2012 10-03-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 19228388)

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19229798)
ahh ups or fedex :2 cents:

http://charmr.com/images/60693493937...906418959n.jpg

crockett 10-03-2012 11:04 AM

All these people say never give up & this or that and half are probably living in their moms basement or in some trailer park shit hole.

Simple fact is if you need a job, get a job. There is no shame in failing unless you let it become shame.

As far as what kind of job to take, well unless you have special skills at something or are good at programming, design ect.. Then you are going to have a hard time finding work in any sort of real world job off the internet using your webmaster skills and most of those places want a degree of some sort unless you are very good & can prove it.

Adult webmaster, just doesn't ring well with most employers & you wont be running anyone's business anytime soon. Most employers would rather have a worker bee, than someone that thinks they know how to run their business.

The simple fact is, if you need a job try to find the best paying job you can find with the most covenant hours, as long as you can stand the work and rebuild if you intend to restart a business.

The point being, the job is just a side step, so no need to focus on what it is. Just as long as it pays enough & the hours allow you to work on your own stuff.

Badmaash 10-03-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19229924)
All these people say never give up & this or that and half are probably living in their moms basement or in some trailer park shit hole.

Simple fact is if you need a job, get a job. There is no shame in failing unless you let it become shame.

As far as what kind of job to take, well unless you have special skills at something or are good at programming, design ect.. Then you are going to have a hard time finding work in any sort of real world job off the internet using your webmaster skills and most of those places want a degree of some sort unless you are very good & can prove it.

Adult webmaster, just doesn't ring well with most employers & you wont be running anyone's business anytime soon. Most employers would rather have a worker bee, than someone that thinks they know how to run their business.

The simple fact is, if you need a job try to find the best paying job you can find with the most covenant hours, as long as you can stand the work and rebuild if you intend to restart a business.

The point being, the job is just a side step, so no need to focus on what it is. Just as long as it pays enough & the hours allow you to work on your own stuff.

Yeah I got a degree in computer science

I was working as an automation test analyst before trying out business

I use to be on $80K/yr

I thought I could make millions in business but it did not work out like that, it defo was the recession and some other factors

So, I dont know what to say...... lol!

blazin 10-03-2012 12:44 PM

I had a recent business failure... and found I was eating into my savings more and more. I made the decision to look for work... and 2 weeks later I had an offer on the table, first job I applied for. Been working since.

Happier now that I'm cashflow positive and will continue working on my side web project and launch it while I continue to work at a job which I actually thoroughly enjoy.

Badmaash 10-03-2012 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 19230308)
I had a recent business failure... and found I was eating into my savings more and more. I made the decision to look for work... and 2 weeks later I had an offer on the table, first job I applied for. Been working since.

Happier now that I'm cashflow positive and will continue working on my side web project and launch it while I continue to work at a job which I actually thoroughly enjoy.

For how long wre you doing business for?

What did you tell the people that employed you about the fact you were running a business, they obviously did not mind..?

epitome 10-03-2012 12:49 PM

Entry level.

It's hard to explain to someone you're desperate for a job from that you have valuable business experience. In their head they are thinking "if you had the experience we need you wouldn't be sitting here right now." They won't say that though, just think it and not call you back.

Focus less on "business experience" and more on your skills.

Nobody wants to hire you to help them run their business. They want to hire you as an employee that does what they say without feedback and then once you're in you can start moving up.

woj 10-03-2012 12:57 PM

what business did you try that didn't work out? maybe it's savable? If you don't want to share it publically you can shoot me an email woj at wojfun dot com, I might be able to offer some feedback to make the business profitable..

blazin 10-03-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230323)
For how long wre you doing business for?

What did you tell the people that employed you about the fact you were running a business, they obviously did not mind..?

18 months or so.

I mentioned it was simply a change of pace for a while, a lifestyle change if you like. I did a lot of travelling at the time, even lived in Bangkok for 6 months of that. My boss was quite envious actually.

blazin 10-03-2012 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19230325)
Entry level.

It's hard to explain to someone you're desperate for a job from that you have valuable business experience. In their head they are thinking "if you had the experience we need you wouldn't be sitting here right now." They won't say that though, just think it and not call you back.

Focus less on "business experience" and more on your skills.

Nobody wants to hire you to help them run their business. They want to hire you as an employee that does what they say without feedback and then once you're in you can start moving up.

Yep... I suck at all the things required to run a business... but have tons of knowledge of web / development / infrastructure.

epitome 10-03-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blazin (Post 19230388)
Yep... I suck at all the things required to run a business... but have tons of knowledge of web / development / infrastructure.

Focus on that then to get in the door. Expand once you're in the door. Don't go in talking a big game because you're a former business owner... that usually pisses off or intimidates the hiring manager. You'll have to explain gaps in your resume but don't act like you're trying to sell them a solution. Sell them on you being an eager employee with X and Y skills.

V_RocKs 10-03-2012 02:56 PM

I don't think I could ever work for someone else again.

If I had to it would be over the Internet. I would not drive to work.

If shit really hit the fan I'd just pack up all of my shit. Drop it off in my moms garage. Then live in camp sites working on my laptop for the meager amount of money it takes to live there. While there I'd be spending a portion of my day fishing and depending on the local area and time of year, quite possibly hunting.

It isn't hard to make money online. But you do have to work.

Badmaash 10-03-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 19230533)
I don't think I could ever work for someone else again.

If I had to it would be over the Internet. I would not drive to work.

If shit really hit the fan I'd just pack up all of my shit. Drop it off in my moms garage. Then live in camp sites working on my laptop for the meager amount of money it takes to live there. While there I'd be spending a portion of my day fishing and depending on the local area and time of year, quite possibly hunting.

It isn't hard to make money online. But you do have to work.

Hi

If you gave yourself three months from today to start from scratch and created 66 blogs one in each niche and say used one good reputable sponsor for all the niches, do you think that within 3 months you would be making $4K /month?

So basically it would take first month to setup all the blogs with 15 posts

2nd month just blogged away

3rd month just blogged away

You reckon this will achieve $4K/month? All blog will have no backlinks, I will simply just be relying on content and Google to give me traffic for it

Thanks

B

Paul Markham 10-03-2012 03:26 PM

Do what some of my old colleagues did. Become a wedding photographer.

Good shooters who can capture the moment, make good money.

CyberHustler 10-03-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 19230533)
It isn't hard to make money online. But you do have to work.

:thumbsup

wehateporn 10-03-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230563)
Hi

If you gave yourself three months from today to start from scratch and created 66 blogs one in each niche and say used one good reputable sponsor for all the niches, do you think that within 3 months you would be making $4K /month?

So basically it would take first month to setup all the blogs with 15 posts

2nd month just blogged away

3rd month just blogged away

You reckon this will achieve $4K/month? All blog will have no backlinks, I will simply just be relying on content and Google to give me traffic for it

Thanks

B


That could work if you did some deals i.e. agreeing bonuses :2 cents:

d-null 10-03-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230563)
Hi

If you gave yourself three months from today to start from scratch and created 66 blogs one in each niche and say used one good reputable sponsor for all the niches, do you think that within 3 months you would be making $4K /month?

So basically it would take first month to setup all the blogs with 15 posts

2nd month just blogged away

3rd month just blogged away

You reckon this will achieve $4K/month? All blog will have no backlinks, I will simply just be relying on content and Google to give me traffic for it

Thanks

B

blogs are so 2010 :2 cents:

Badmaash 10-03-2012 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19230590)
That could work if you did some deals i.e. agreeing bonuses :2 cents:

What do you mean agreeing bonuses?

Pls explain more.....

Thanks

wehateporn 10-03-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230618)
What do you mean agreeing bonuses?

Pls explain more.....

Thanks

Get in touch with a well respected program, ask if you do 'X' amount of work if they can give you a bonus. If you're working like a NAZI for them they'll encourage it :2 cents:

Badmaash 10-03-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19230679)
Get in touch with a well respected program, ask if you do 'X' amount of work if they can give you a bonus. If you're working like a NAZI for them they'll encourage it :2 cents:

Bonus for doing work? Or do you mean bonus for making them money?

brassmonkey 10-03-2012 04:31 PM

i have an idea for you sent u a icq

Badmaash 10-03-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 19230691)
i have an idea for you sent u a icq

I will check icq tomorrow, off to sleep now.... UK

wehateporn 10-03-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230690)
Bonus for doing work? Or do you mean bonus for making them money?

Most good programs have a budget for 'Encouragement Sales'/Bonuses, most the time you won't realize that a sale was actually a bonus/encouragement sale, they gave it to you as a reward for something you created, or to remind you to promote them again. If you speak to the programs and show them what you can do, you might be able to come to some kind of agreement, as long as they know they're getting plenty of work out of you. :2 cents:

Triple-A 10-03-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 19230591)
blogs are so 2010 :2 cents:

So what is so 2012, then?

wehateporn 10-03-2012 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19230708)
So what is so 2012, then?

Surfing on the Crest of the latest insane Google Algo Update :2 cents:

lo0ni 10-03-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 19230563)
Hi

If you gave yourself three months from today to start from scratch and created 66 blogs one in each niche and say used one good reputable sponsor for all the niches, do you think that within 3 months you would be making $4K /month?

So basically it would take first month to setup all the blogs with 15 posts

2nd month just blogged away

3rd month just blogged away

You reckon this will achieve $4K/month? All blog will have no backlinks, I will simply just be relying on content and Google to give me traffic for it

Thanks

B


It would be a better idea to spend some of that time learning about SEO before you went out, and tried to build a blog network. If you can build 60 blogs that actually rank for highly relevant keywords that have a decent search volume then I'd think you can make some money...The problem is that if you just register some domains, and post content; you may not rank very well for many of your keywords.

The first thing you need to learn is keyword research. Email me at lunaticpics[at]yahoo.com, and I'll try to help you out.

LatinCams 10-03-2012 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19230708)
So what is so 2012, then?

Would also like to know :2 cents:

helterskelter808 10-03-2012 04:53 PM

Anyone who so lazy and clueless they have to ask other people for suggestions on what to do with their life isn't capable of doing anything (successfully anyway). Especially a pothead.

Badmaash 10-03-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19230723)
Anyone who so lazy and clueless they have to ask other people for suggestions on what to do with their life isn't capable of doing anything (successfully anyway). Especially a pothead.

No harm in getting opinions, who said that I am going to do what you say anyway?

helterskelter808 10-03-2012 05:22 PM

Well you asked what job other people would do. It's useless.

What matters is what you can do, what you're qualified to do and what is available.

Basically it's a waste of time asking people what works, because the only thing they know about is what they do. And what works for other people doesn't work for everyone; if it did, everyone would be doing the same thing.

And BTW, I saw some people saying "hit me up" or they'll help you out. People who say shit like that are usually nobodies who just want to help themselves.

Nothing wrong with asking for opinions or even help, but ultimately it's pointless; what matters is what you can do, and what you're willing and able to do.

Personally I don't believe you'll make $4k/month in 3 months doing blogs, but who knows. Try it and see. You'll end up making something, and it's far better to just do stuff than to ask people here what to do and get 25 different answers.

CyberHustler 10-03-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19230723)
Especially a pothead.

:mad: Not all of us are doing that bad

Robbie 10-03-2012 05:27 PM

If everything fell to pieces tomorrow...

I'd immediately (today) go out and get myself a gig playing guitar at a nightclub (solo or in a band)
I'd have Claudia Marie go straight to the nearest titty bar and start dancing.

Between the two of us (mostly her) we'd bring in 3 to 4 grand in cash every week right away.

If I were all by myself with no wife. Then my money would be a lot lower....but so would my overhead. heh-heh
I'd still play guitar for a living, just like I did from 1978 until the mid 1990's. Plenty of gigs all over the country..and I have the gear to play in either a band or to do a solo gig. :)

Barefootsies 10-03-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19230779)
I'd still play guitar for a living, just like I did from 1978 until the mid 1990's. Plenty of gigs all over the country..and I have the gear to play in either a band or to do a solo gig. :)

I am sure that Warchild would be the first one in line once you hit the road to buy tickets to the concert.

:winkwink:

TheSquealer 10-03-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19229831)
You seem to have suffered a massive whack to the head and turned sensible all of a sudden.

Almost exactly as if someone suffering from a mental disorder /illness began taking his medication.

Coincidence?

pornmasta 10-03-2012 06:10 PM

i would read a tutorial of Paul Markham and start again


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