If You Own/Run a Paysite That Converts At 1:500 Or Better: Post Your Link
 

I wanna see who's got game and who's full of shit.

If your paysite converts at 1:500 OR BETTER then post your site, a link, a screenshot, something.

LET'S SEE HOW MANY PAYSITES OUT THERE ARE REALLY, ACTUALLY, TRUTHFULLY DOING BUSINESS LIKE IT'S 2004.

This should help Affiliates, too, so they can see which programs they should sign up with and who they should ignore.

I don't care the niche, I don't care the content, I don't care the company, I just care about these factors:

Traffic: over 1000 hits daily MINIMUM
Billers: Please list if it's a CCBill, Epoch, Verotel, etc site

Bring it Motherfuckers! :thumbsup:thumbsup

:rasta

Will you test it out and post results? If so then its good thread and many many of those who usually post fake stats will not post here. Otherwise - thread will be full of fake stats.

From my experience - If I got any program that converted at 1:1000 I would be king, however I have not find any like that in a long time. 1:500 is impossible and I would not believe anybody who says otherwise (except of course special traffic sources and other "special" circumstances).

why didnt you post anything?

If I didn't convert under 1:500 I'd find something else to do.

Effectively this seems like it would be a moot argument.

1. Half the people on this board will call bullshit.
2. The other half will tell their horror stories of how so and so fucked them or they didn't convert at all.

ALL of this is subject to how you run your site as an affiliate and the business you're doing etc etc etc. None of the larger companies will let you look at their books and you have no way or corroborating any of the numbers posted.

Evil Angel / FameDigital / Nuru Massage / Sweet Heart Video / All Girl Massage / and many other FameDollars sites have a better than 1:500 ratio and ALL of them do > 1000 hits per day.

If you want more info on which are the best converting and which we think would be the best converting ones for you, contact derrick at famedollars dot com and he'll be happy to give you more info.

It's a two way street though and as the saying goes, "Results may vary." Send shit traffic, get shit conversions. Have a quality site and traffic, get good results. Hit us up, see what we can do for you.

Or just complain a bunch about us and other programs, either way, happy Halloween!

Thats right, you can do 1:500 with some affiliates that send you quality traffic but your overall ratios would be way worse because of other affiliates who sends worse quality traffic. There is NO WAY any big or medium sized program (with number of various affiliates) could have 1:500 or better overall ratio taking about first page unique hits.

NATS with Netbilling.

Homegrown Video and our niche sites, hairy bush, big cock, big tits, milf, cream pie based on overall traffic, including type ins, google, etc.

1:529 for October, average of all traffic combined on all sites, affiliate and internal traffic.

One year ago we were at 1:2000 for the same period, less sites, but pretty similar overall traffic strategy.

Our new sites are tested on tube traffic primarily, so those ratios tend to skew the overall average since we haven't brought in the SEO, affiliates, review sites, trades, etc. that would bring the average way down and more similar to an established site like HGV.

Again I have no way of proving any of this to you, all the sites I listed above and many more convert better than 1:500 for sales / raw hits. Nothing I could say can possibly convince you, but then again, I'm not concerned about convincing you. If you want proof, e-mail Derrick, lets do some testing and see what YOUR results are. You can track all of the numbers through your personal profile on FameDollars.com.

Here are our sites that convert 1:300 to 1:500 from all traffic. This is from ALL traffic not just certain affiliates/traffic sources...
PregnantKristi.com
PissWhoreTraining.com
DiaperSluts.com
SmokingMina.com

The rest of our sites are around the 1:800 to 1:1300 range depending on the site and month. Some exceptions of course with really old sites but there aren't many like that.

Maybe for general sites, but niche sites tend to get more targeted traffic and convert better from my experience.

Is it safe to long term promote piss whore training? Pissmops were closed, wouldn't it happen to this site which is similar? I asked that couple times, sorry if you already replied to that. And not sorry if you ignored my questions those times :)

This is naturally true. Micro niche or small niches with targeted traffic may or might do that overall.

you working for the treasury dept now bro? :upsidedow

I am better then 1:500 for the year but I do not get 1000 hits a day. I get a small amount of good traffic. I had 3 people take me up on that deal to get 10 joins from 23,000 hits and all three of them got 10 or more. It was from a thread where someone was 0:23,000
anyway when I get over 1000 a day and it is still under 1:500 I will let you know

I remember that thread and was curious how that turned out. Were those people sending straight to your tour or to galleries?

Oh sorry I didn't see you ask, my bad. :Oh crap We've had BiohazardUncensored.com up for 6 years with no issue.

Piss Whore Training has billing from Verotel and SegPay so it's fully compliant as per Visa's rules so no worries there!

I know two of them set it to the tour and one guy had many links. Thing is nobody updated anything from what I can see. The three of them total might send 10 hits a day now. I figured they would be happy with 14:23,000. I think the best was around 19:32000 but our stats did not match up exactly. They were within 5% on the total hits sent so close enough. That is about 1:1500 which is about what all three of them ended up with. I was just happy they were all honest and sent their normal traffic and not some crap they could have bought for 8 bucks.

kennyspennies has some great sites that convert with those numbers easy. Been there do that.

I was looking for a few amateur sites for a media buy I'm doing later this week so I'm going to give your site a shot... :thumbsup

How much traffic a day are you getting Dave? I'd be so filthy rich if I were still doing 1:500 in 2012 that I'd buy Manwin. lol

and more important what are the traffic sources ;)

I was curious about that myself. He does have some of the best gloryhole content I've ever seen though and seems to do a good job policing it on the piracy sites...

Exactly... Thats why its hardly believable when bigger programs claim that :)

Our top converting sites at EuroRevenue last 30 day's according to Nats admin.

http://www.xxxmix.com/er-30.png

Also how are you counting the traffic? There are lots of ways to make that look real good.

I count mine by hits to the tour. I'm guessing these stats with awesome percentages are counting join page hits only or maybe the second page of the join page (step 2).

Unique first page hits to the tour for our stats above. Granted the type-in and SE traffic going to the sites is counted in there but still pretty good :)

You could post a screen shot. Anyone with any degree of skill will be able to detect a chop from a mile away.

We have a couple sites that convert under 500

http://www.caribbeancompr.com/ 1:375
http://www.heydouga.com/ 1:237

We have quite a few that convert in the 700 range.

1:6,295 on one site and thats as bad as it gets.

http://mistressofasia.com/nats.jpg

All time traffic from all sources from NATS admin. This month it's 1:380 :)

That's pretty damn good.

For http://claudia-marie.Com/tour/ (the affiliate traffic tour) it's 1:2053 uniques.

But for my non-affiliate (type ins and search engine) tour at http://claudiamarie.com/tour/ it's 1:840

That is DAMN good ratio these days, and blievable.

Sounds very believable.

Our traffic and sites are very niche though which brings down ratios but unfortunately also traffic.

Agreed. Our sites tend to do very well compared to most.

(EDIT: Hard to read so cropped the important part.)

CCBill screen grab taken just a minute ago for the past 3 months...

http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/stats.jpg

http://www.extremebank.com/images/gfy/stats2.jpg

Stats for October only are even better, just over 1:500, and stats for this week are 1:370 so far.

We do really well with hardcore traffic, review sites, and of course Freeones (any of whom are free to verify).

How does CC Bill count uniques?

IMHO we shouldn't be talking about ratios here, we need to also take into account rebill rates and the actual price per sale. If instead we look at $/Unique Click, and include rebills in the calculation, that is is a far more useful number.

Here's an example for one of the programs I promote


So total sales is $3366.40

Total unique clicks is 61,657

So $/Click is 3366.40 / 61657

= $0.0545 per click

I find it easier to think what that's worth per 1000 clicks, so *1000

= $54.598 per 1000 clicks

Doing that... I make 3 cents a click on http://claudia-marie.com/tour/ (affiliate tour)
And I make 9 cents per click on http://claudiamarie.com/tour/ (type in tour)

Impressive :thumbsup

It would be a lot more if it weren't for all the piracy and free full scenes and complete members areas ripped and given away for free. :(

Beats me. LOL.

Quoted for truth.

Could you get Claudia to do something like this, it's a lot harder to pirate :2 cents:

StrugglingBabes.com

Oct: 1/341
Sept: 1/298
Aug: 1:325
Jul: 1:442
Jun: 1:402
May: 1:349
Apr: 1:295
March: 1:225
Feb: 1:695
Jan: 1:413

Only February sucked!

These are affiliate ratios and if i`m right even without the rebills!

1000+ daily traffic
Processed by Epoch!

Yeeeeeeeep... and another sign up coming in:)

We keep her stuff under control somewhat as far as piracy goes.

But it doesn't keep us from being affected by everybody else's content being out there for free. Takes away a lot of money that used to come in off of "impulse buying". Once they've already jerked off to free porn, they no longer have that "need" to reach into their wallet and buy a paysite membership. :(

Remember in the heydey of tgp/mgp when people would complain about free content, especially the galleries or clips that contained cumshots...

Did people then somehow stop jerking off and decide to get a membership so they could go in and splooge as a full member?

Just asking...

Why are you asking? You were around. You remember how much money was being made.

I was making 7 figures a year as an affiliate with my TGP's.
I did something right.

And I was but one of many big affiliates. How many big affiliate like that are left today (pushing paysites...not dating and cams)? Not a handful, if that many.

How often do you change / tweak your tours?

Interesting that you have the two different domains to test with, be interesting to see how much you can change the type in tour.

A little OT however still about paysites.

What power words do people find work the best on tours for selling? ie discover / guarantee etc - what works best on tours? What single words and combos?

The overall look of the tour hasn't changed in about a year and a half. But since it's a "dynamic" tour (the tour content changes with each update in the members area) it actually changes constantly.