GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   What is a Malware attack (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1087895)

Cherry7 11-04-2012 02:43 AM

What is a Malware attack
 
After wasting a week of my life cleaning up from a Malware attack I have been told;

The happen by forcing the FTP password

Then by weakness in the web design (but no explanation on what exactly.

I would have thought is would be easy to defend against multiple attempts to log in...

I was also told that the attack could come from the uploading or home computer but but anti virus and Microsoft's malware program failed to detect anything.

If it is a password problem is it true that

usealongsentenceasaspasswordinbetterthan

HgtSd55^&8

that it is the length is the stronger PW?

ottopottomouse 11-04-2012 04:04 AM

What FTP program do you use as some are quite easy to steal the password from?

suesheboy 11-04-2012 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19293392)
What FTP program do you use as some are quite easy to steal the password from?

Interesting...such as?

helterskelter808 11-04-2012 08:01 AM

I hope you people are just using "FTP" as a generic term, and you really mean SFTP or SSH, because FTP went out with Gopher and Archie. If you really are using FTP then stop, because it's not secure.

k0nr4d 11-04-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suesheboy (Post 19293425)
Interesting...such as?

Filezilla stores all it's saved sites in an unencrypted xml file. I have a buddy who does german mainstream sites, and his computer got a virus. The virus sent out his filezilla xml file to some server and that server went in and added some iframe crap on every .html and .tpl file on all his client's servers. This happens less frequently on adult sites because the hosts in adult tend to firewall their shit, but there are other viruses and malware that log right in from your computer and do it - thus bypassing any firewall or anything.

It doesn't have to be *YOUR* computer that got virused - it could be a designer you hired, a programmer, a copywriter, an seo guy, or even a server admin who's computer was infected with soemthing and had your login data saved somewhere.

Cherry7 11-04-2012 03:08 PM

Grim news, the irony is that we were having problems uploading large files and our host recommended Filezilla, and Fillezilla does work very well.

Lace 11-04-2012 04:21 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

grumpy 11-04-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19293534)
Filezilla stores all it's saved sites in an unencrypted xml file. I have a buddy who does german mainstream sites, and his computer got a virus. The virus sent out his filezilla xml file to some server and that server went in and added some iframe crap on every .html and .tpl file on all his client's servers. This happens less frequently on adult sites because the hosts in adult tend to firewall their shit, but there are other viruses and malware that log right in from your computer and do it - thus bypassing any firewall or anything.

It doesn't have to be *YOUR* computer that got virused - it could be a designer you hired, a programmer, a copywriter, an seo guy, or even a server admin who's computer was infected with soemthing and had your login data saved somewhere.

thats why i use ipswitch ws_ftp professional

SilentKnight 11-04-2012 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19293363)
After wasting a week of my life cleaning up from a Malware attack I have been told;

The happen by forcing the FTP password

Then by weakness in the web design (but no explanation on what exactly.

I would have thought is would be easy to defend against multiple attempts to log in...

I was also told that the attack could come from the uploading or home computer but but anti virus and Microsoft's malware program failed to detect anything.

If it is a password problem is it true that

usealongsentenceasaspasswordinbetterthan

HgtSd55^&8

that it is the length is the stronger PW?


We had a major malware issue here recently also - but it had nothing to do with FTP. We got the Ukash virus, which seemed to mutate into various forms. It busted through both our anti-virus and firewall and literally locked the system up.

It took me three days to completely eliminate it. No permanent damage, just major annoying with the downtime.

rock-reed 11-04-2012 09:53 PM

Try using Secure FTP (SFTP) to feel more secure.

NaughtyRob 11-04-2012 09:57 PM

The Internet....

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/b...g-it-wrong.jpg

Cherry7 11-05-2012 01:52 PM

So it could be Filezilla, it could be our computer, it could be our site PW was hacked, it could be a weakness in our website...

alex.missyouth 11-05-2012 01:57 PM

My advice is to use SFTP and a strong password with capitals and non capital letters, numbers and symbols. :2 cents:

Cherry7 11-06-2012 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex.missyouth (Post 19295970)
My advice is to use SFTP and a strong password with capitals and non capital letters, numbers and symbols. :2 cents:

I was reading it is the length of the password that is more important and a password like

thisisreallyeasytorememberasapasswordforexample

is better than

TerD5$$&*H

helterskelter808 11-06-2012 12:56 PM

^ Why not just make the second one longer.

HomerSimpson 11-06-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 19293534)
Filezilla stores all it's saved sites in an unencrypted xml file. I have a buddy who does german mainstream sites, and his computer got a virus. The virus sent out his filezilla xml file to some server and that server went in and added some iframe crap on every .html and .tpl file on all his client's servers. This happens less frequently on adult sites because the hosts in adult tend to firewall their shit, but there are other viruses and malware that log right in from your computer and do it - thus bypassing any firewall or anything.

It doesn't have to be *YOUR* computer that got virused - it could be a designer you hired, a programmer, a copywriter, an seo guy, or even a server admin who's computer was infected with soemthing and had your login data saved somewhere.

exactly...
so, the solution is

1. Use Total Commander because it has password encryption (versions > 7.5)

2. Use FileZilla portable edition from PortableApps.com because then the virus doesn't know where filezilla is installed. All those viruses scan "c:/Program Files/" folder for installed applications or search the registry...

So, by using Portable Applications you will hide from possible attacker information that you are using that software... You can also put that on USB drive and carry with you or store it on Dropbox and use it on any computer, wherever you are...

johnny o 11-06-2012 01:10 PM

this link says your long password is better, see for yourself:
http://howsecureismypassword.net/

Cherry7 11-07-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny o (Post 19298202)
this link says your long password is better, see for yourself:
http://howsecureismypassword.net/

The intersting thing about that is that it seems to be 99% about length....

CurrentlySober 11-07-2012 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19299732)
The intersting thing about that is that it seems to be 99% about length....

Surprised?

Thats what all women really think, but simply wont admit...

rowan 11-07-2012 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19299732)
The intersting thing about that is that it seems to be 99% about length....

With brute forcing longer passwords will take exponentially longer to crack.

A single password with uppercase letters only will require up to 26 attempts to crack, but increase that to two and we're now at 676 (26 x 26)... go up to 10 and it's a number I'd have difficulty comprehending... 141,167,095,653,376

Of course there's no point having a "good" password if you're transmitting it cleartext via FTP, or you have something on your desktop or server that is catching the password as it's used.

idolbucks 11-07-2012 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19299732)
The intersting thing about that is that it seems to be 99% about length....

This site explains it a bit more in depth

https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm

Example password I typically use 100 char + High ANSI characters

„2?“=ŠQƒH[}ƒš!mba͵RXDx…n†!MM‰HJް1k5‚;7b C$wV~V‡‡ͨ7K‹hYœ

Massive Cracking Array Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred trillion guesses per second) 1.81 hundred million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries

Cherry7 11-07-2012 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks (Post 19300415)
This site explains it a bit more in depth

https://www.grc.com/haystack.htm

Example password I typically use 100 char + High ANSI characters

?2??=?Q?H[}??!mba͵RXDx?n?!MM?HJް1k5?;7b C$wV~V??ͨ7K?hY?

Massive Cracking Array Scenario:
(Assuming one hundred trillion guesses per second) 1.81 hundred million trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion centuries

But try and remember that. If you paste it in or store it another problem.But password such as

Thisisveryeasytorememberasitisinwordsbutverylong

seems to be the way to go


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:08 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123