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Z 11-23-2012 08:42 AM

Did you leave adult? Do you regret it?
 
I left adult about 4 years ago and have regretted it only a couple of times.

Now I've got an investor that wants to develop one of my adult domains and it looks like I'm getting back in.

Anybody else go mainstream? Regret leaving?

Anybody stay and regret that?


BAKO 11-23-2012 08:42 AM

Hell no still here and going strong

Jman 11-23-2012 08:43 AM

ZZZZZZZ's back... Hell yeah.

Good luck man ;)

MaDalton 11-23-2012 08:44 AM

why would i? :)

everything else is just boring

fitzmulti 11-23-2012 08:44 AM

Haven't left yet...doubt I ever will...
so, nope.

AllAboutCams 11-23-2012 08:51 AM

if im still making money im still going to be here

Antonio 11-23-2012 08:55 AM

kinda
no

Z 11-23-2012 09:15 AM

I hear the shows aren't as good as they used to be. Of course, they're not as good as 2000, 2001...but are they as shit as I'm being told now?

Shannon G 11-23-2012 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 19328815)
I hear the shows aren't as good as they used to be. Of course, they're not as good as 2000, 2001...but are they as shit as I'm being told now?

Z!!! Welcome back!!! :)
Maybe you should put together a Panama show :thumbsup

_Richard_ 11-23-2012 10:01 AM

welcome back!

Z 11-23-2012 10:02 AM

A Panama show...?
 
Hhrrmm...what an idea.

If I did, who would be into it?

seeandsee 11-23-2012 01:13 PM

Welcome back ZZZZZZZZ

Z 11-23-2012 01:16 PM

Thanks all, it has been really great to see some of my old friends here. I don't recognize all the nicks, but I've been checking out some old show pics and I'm digging the idea of hitting a few more shows with a new site. ;-)

RyuLion 11-23-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Z (Post 19328815)
I hear the shows aren't as good as they used to be. Of course, they're not as good as 2000, 2001...but are they as shit as I'm being told now?

They aren't bad, people always expect the same outcome no matter what. A good show is what you make of it, and how well you pre-plan...

I've never left, and never will, I'm even passing on clients to my biz peeps!

ErectMedia 11-23-2012 01:40 PM

left and came back, like the diversified approach, if adult has a dip mainstream holds me up, if mainstream has a dip adult holds me up, if both doing well jackpot :2 cents:

Klen 11-23-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19328778)
why would i? :)

everything else is just boring

Did you tried cooking :1orglaugh

Killswitch 11-23-2012 01:56 PM

Left adult in 2010, actually never really did anything online much then... Just tinkering with things... Came back and now I'm working on getting the ball rolling again.

Mainly my primary client pulled me back in.

CYF 11-23-2012 02:02 PM

I've been in mainstream for a long time now, and I got into adult way too late. Never really made a lot with adult, and I still have one site left that I run but I concentrate 99% on mainstream.

Scott McD 11-23-2012 03:26 PM

Still here and doing a little bit of both! :pimp

AutumnBH 11-23-2012 03:35 PM

Grass is so much greener in mainstream... Less competition, waaaaay more niches to get into, way easier to get high quality backlinks, traffic is actually worth a damn, and most importantly you have to worry way less about people actually paying you...

Adult is dead unless you are part of that 1% who is consolidating all the traffic. It's a mature industry now with no room for mom and pops. Move with the times and stop flogging a dead horse.

Typical adult webmaster now is pleased to get a few signups a week and is basically working for beer money.

trevesty 11-23-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329492)
Grass is so much greener in mainstream... Less competition, waaaaay more niches to get into, way easier to get high quality backlinks, traffic is actually worth a damn, and most importantly you have to worry way less about people actually paying you...

Adult is dead unless you are part of that 1% who is consolidating all the traffic. It's a mature industry now with no room for mom and pops. Move with the times and stop flogging a dead horse.

Typical adult webmaster now is pleased to get a few signups a week and is basically working for beer money.

Not true, but keep preaching it.. keeps the competition to a minimum. :winkwink:

Rochard 11-23-2012 03:50 PM

Welcome back Z.

A lot has changed. A lot. Then again, the more things change the more they stay they same. Always new nicks who pretend they own the world and think they know everything while running their company from Mommy's basement. Whatever.

AutumnBH 11-23-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 19329516)
Not true, but keep preaching it.. keeps the competition to a minimum. :winkwink:

At least in the SEO game where I make my money, everyone with half a brain moved to mainstream a long time ago... So yes the competition is minimal. Adult serps are wide open but the traffic is worth shit.

How many adult webmasters can push 10+ signups a day now? How many even make a reliable $100+ a day, or any kind of sustainable living wage? Not many. A fraction of a few years ago. No wonder the adult biz is in a shambles.

Va2k 11-23-2012 04:06 PM

I had to leave for health reason's for a few and it sucked hard, We don't know how lucky we got it working fulltime in adult..

Killswitch 11-23-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329492)
Grass is so much greener in mainstream... Less competition, waaaaay more niches to get into, way easier to get high quality backlinks, traffic is actually worth a damn, and most importantly you have to worry way less about people actually paying you...

Adult is dead unless you are part of that 1% who is consolidating all the traffic. It's a mature industry now with no room for mom and pops. Move with the times and stop flogging a dead horse.

Typical adult webmaster now is pleased to get a few signups a week and is basically working for beer money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329528)
At least in the SEO game where I make my money, everyone with half a brain moved to mainstream a long time ago... So yes the competition is minimal. Adult serps are wide open but the traffic is worth shit.

How many adult webmasters can push 10+ signups a day now? How many even make a reliable $100+ a day, or any kind of sustainable living wage? Not many. A fraction of a few years ago. No wonder the adult biz is in a shambles.

Just because you suck hard at it, doesn't mean the industry is dead. Of course the broke fucks on GFY are gonna continue to suck, but doesn't mean that's the whole adult world... Actually not hard to make $100/day in adult.

AutumnBH 11-23-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19329551)
Just because you suck hard at it, doesn't mean the industry is dead. Of course the broke fucks on GFY are gonna continue to suck, but doesn't mean that's the whole adult world... Actually not hard to make $100/day in adult.

I never said it was hard to make $100 a day in adult... Just that most people can't do it any more, for a variety of reasons, including the fact that most semi decent affiliate marketers (who are in the business of selling traffic, not "being in the porn business") have moved to the greener pastures of mainstream marketing.

No the industry is not completely dead and obviously there are people still making money. But if you can't see that the industry is maturing beyond the level where individual affiliates have a place then you need to take off the blinkers...

Maybe if you're balling so hard, you can move up from that 2007 Macbook one day soon. :thumbsup

Va2k 11-23-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 19329551)
Just because you suck hard at it, doesn't mean the industry is dead. Of course the broke fucks on GFY are gonna continue to suck, but doesn't mean that's the whole adult world... Actually not hard to make $100/day in adult.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Killswitch 11-23-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329564)
Maybe if you're balling so hard, you can move up from that 2007 Macbook one day soon. :thumbsup

Yeah, I feel you there... it's getting slow playing Netflix while I work on my iMac with 32GB... That's why next month I'm buying a MacBook Pro... Mainly so it's universal across all my systems... Weird using iOS6 on my iPhone 5, Mountain Lion on my iMac, and Snow Leopard on my MacBook...

But hey, thanks for your concern on what I use to watch Netflix while I work. :thumbsup

fuzebox 11-23-2012 04:28 PM

Every year to date including this one has been my best year. Can't complain.

mrgica 11-23-2012 04:37 PM

Leave it? LOL, you mean it throw you out. No one leaves cash, it just stops coming. Then you leave. However Im so near to leave it myself. :winkwink:

mrgica 11-23-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 19329585)
Every year to date including this one has been my best year. Can't complain.

Yea right.. Probably if you started with $50/mon

Mr Pheer 11-23-2012 04:41 PM

I'm not completely out of adult yet but I'm damn sure on my way out. Seems like every week mainstream is getting better and better.

I'll keep some autopilot blogs and dating scripts running just to build email leads, but my focus is elsewhere.

Killswitch 11-23-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgica (Post 19329601)
Yea right.. Probably if you started with $50/mon

Clearly you're an idiot and don't even know who fuzebox is... He's one of the most useful people on this board. Take your trolling somewhere else kiddo.

fuzebox 11-23-2012 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgica (Post 19329601)
Yea right.. Probably if you started with $50/mon

You're probably right :)

Feng-PD 11-23-2012 05:10 PM

Im into adult way to late aswell, but if your lucky.. it can make loads :)

DWB 11-23-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fungus (Post 19329545)
I had to leave for health reason's for a few and it sucked hard, We don't know how lucky we got it working fulltime in adult..

Everything else gets real trivial when you're having health problems.

How is your health now?

SilentKnight 11-23-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329528)
At least in the SEO game where I make my money, everyone with half a brain moved to mainstream a long time ago... So yes the competition is minimal. Adult serps are wide open but the traffic is worth shit.

How many adult webmasters can push 10+ signups a day now? How many even make a reliable $100+ a day, or any kind of sustainable living wage? Not many. A fraction of a few years ago. No wonder the adult biz is in a shambles.

There's still revenue in the fetish/bdsm niche - but not nearly what it was back in the early 2000s.

We made 6-figures in '03 (our best year) - but since then it's been a steady decline to low 5-figures.

We're still in the game...but we've been developing a few mainstream projects lately that hopefully will bear fruit in the near future.

isteve 11-23-2012 08:08 PM

I'm in IT for an adult company and I make 6 figures. Does that count as being in adult?

DTK 11-23-2012 08:13 PM

I did. I don't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AutumnBH (Post 19329492)
Grass is so much greener in mainstream...

Exactly this.

AutumnBH 11-23-2012 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isteve (Post 19329794)
I'm in IT for an adult company and I make 6 figures. Does that count as being in adult?

Not really, you are in IT. On a technical level an IT job is an IT job, regardless of whether you're working on a big tube or doing data crunching for a bank or whatever.

However unless you work for Manwin then you may have very little job security. Depending on your skill set you may or may not have trouble finding a similar position in the future. Underneath the surface almost every big company in adult has been quietly stripping back on everything they can and trying to get more out of paying people less. For example I know for a fact that over the last few months Pimproll has been quietly culling every expense and person they can and working their employees even harder than they did before - and they are one of the biggest programs out.

shimmy2 11-23-2012 08:28 PM

nigars put too much flour in they coke then wonder why they broke - nas

CyberHustler 11-23-2012 09:03 PM

Left adult, twice... just came back in a year ago because adsense gave the boot to a decent site and I wanted to monetize it somehow. Built networks around it, then bam im back in. Mainstream is still responsible for the vast majority of my online income though

Colmike9 11-23-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 19329840)
If you spent over a decade in the biz, here's some news, never leave adult because the footprint will follow you into MS. Meaning, if you are trying to rebuild in MS with a porn past, no matter how desensitized you got, ass to mouth, beasty, porn splogging, FB spamming, etc.?

..it will always catch up to you in the end in MS.. I can promise you it will.

:Oh crap
That's only if you don't know what you're doing. It's really easy to cover up, make fake logins for everything, use proxies if you have to, etc..

epitome 11-23-2012 09:26 PM

Based on the constant moping going on around here more people are forced out of adult than those voluntarily choosing to leave it.

VenusBlogger 11-23-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z (Post 19328770)
I left adult about 4 years ago and have regretted it only a couple of times.

Now I've got an investor that wants to develop one of my adult domains and it looks like I'm getting back in.

Anybody else go mainstream? Regret leaving?

Anybody stay and regret that?

Lots of people LEFT ADULT for good...

But HERE, in the thread you opened, you will only see people saying they stayed and are doing money and such things.

You wont' see people here telling you the TRUTH. We all know what happened to the adult business in the last years.

And 90% of the AFFILIATES I knew from year 2005 are no longer in adult. Go Figure.

Your nick is registered since 2002, so, you know exactly whats going on. No need to ask, and if you ask here, dont expect a real response.

Just saying...

Scat in the Hat 11-23-2012 09:55 PM

I haven't made a dime off adult since probably '06 or '07, and even then most of that was residuals from prior years.

Fact is, there is plenty of opportunity in this industry for those who are creative and can persist with very little, if any immediate payoff.

I plan to get back in next year with a couple of new projects on a minuscule level.

In 2013, less is more.

Killswitch 11-23-2012 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19329862)
Lots of people LEFT ADULT for good...

But HERE, in the thread you opened, you will only see people saying they stayed and are doing money and such things.

You wont' see people here telling you the TRUTH. We all know what happened to the adult business in the last years.

And 90% of the AFFILIATES I knew from year 2005 are no longer in adult. Go Figure.

Your nick is registered since 2002, so, you know exactly whats going on. No need to ask, and if you ask here, dont expect a real response.

Just saying...

Or people who aren't broke fucks trying to act like big shit and actual still make money in adult?

Varius 11-23-2012 10:27 PM

Mainstream presents a lot more opportunity, from advertising avenues to potential customer volume.

"A Million Dollars Isn't Cool. You Know What's Cool? A Billion Dollars."

Extremely hard to become a billion-dollar adult company. Mainstream, these days, not so much (at least as far as evaluations go).

So I guess it all depends where you are aiming.

Bake 11-23-2012 10:39 PM

I didn't leave as such just drifted into new ventures. For me after 10 years doing Adult I just could no longer sit in front of a screen all day and my mental health suffered.
In the early 2000's I just played allot of golf to escape but then as times grew tougher you had to work more. I happy with how things are and I still make money from adult but I haven't updated a site in years except for auto updates.

endsofttech 11-23-2012 11:08 PM

imho both industry earns well you just have to learn or search for more strategies. :thumbsup


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