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dyna mo 02-05-2013 10:26 AM

Let's stop this myth: frequent meals increases metabolism
 
Even the most famous health and fitness gurus claim that eating 6x a day (3 meals + 3 snacks, for instance) boosts metabolism and therefore increases weight loss.
It's 100% bullshit.
I think 99% of people trying to lose weight actually believe in this myth.

Dirty F 02-05-2013 10:28 AM

Hmm Hmmmmm

_Richard_ 02-05-2013 10:29 AM

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Eating more frequently will speed up your metabolism
Another common myth is that eating more frequent meals will boost your metabolism. If you?ve ever heard someone tell you that you should eat six times a day for a faster metabolism, you?re being given misinformation.

The point to remember here is that each time you eat a meal, your metabolism increases. This increase is impacted by how large the meals higher in carbohydrates and fats).

Assuming total macronutrient composition and calorie intake stays the same over two different diets, one consisting of three meals and one of six, both diets will experience the same metabolic increases. The only difference is the individual eating six meals a day will have smaller increases six times while the other individual will have larger increases three times a day.

Read more: http://ca.askmen.com/sports/foodcour...#ixzz2K2yHzw00
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Scott McD 02-05-2013 10:29 AM

Best ways to lose weight. Stop eating and do some exercise fatty!

TheSquealer 02-05-2013 10:41 AM

Your metabolic rate actually speeds up and slows down in direct proportion to the quantity of food you eat.

There is no net gain or loss from eating more frequently in terms of total calories burned through the day.

However, when people wake up, drink coffee for breakfast, then eat a huge lunch, that is followed by a crash which then makes it difficult to exercise, workout etc. An active lifestyle requires more frequent and consistent eating to maintain stable and consistent energy levels. But eating 6 times a day rather than 3 isn't going to cause anyone to lose weight by itself. There is an indirect effect on metabolic rate, energy levels etc in this aforementioned sense. But simply waking up one day and saying "i'm eating 6 times instead of 3" is meaningless to 99% of people and really is just going to cause people to eat too many calories over all.

Total calories in vs total calories out :)

One thing i've learned dyna_mo is that nothing one says matters in terms of big picture. beliefs are religion. people tell themselves what they need to and believe what they want to. explaining facts isn't helpful and particularly with women... challenging emotion with facts is futile.

You achieved something great. I know its great, because I watch countless people start with the same intention of getting down to XX% body fat and immediately get off track, find excuses, rationalize etc etc etc. Thats how you know you are different. You are better. You stopped looking for excuses and started looking for answers... and you accepted them and did the work. Thats something almost every one will never do. It takes a strength of character that most either don't have or can't muster.

On a side note to stupidity in fitness and health and myth/hype... go into any vitamin shoppe or GNC an hour after Dr Oz airs. You'll seriously be standing there saying "what the fuck!!!". You can tell what he talked about that day by what they bought. It's totally insane. Everyone wants a pill. Everyone wants "easy". Everyone wants to believe they're right with all their excuses. Everyone wants to believe they are in control of what is in reality a very frail body that can die at any moment.

Vendzilla 02-05-2013 10:44 AM

I lost 75 lbs by changing what I ate and walking a lot more. Now it's time to step that up and drop a little more

Sarah_Jayne 02-05-2013 10:46 AM

Whenever I see those insane workout or whatever infomercials, I think of you and your transformation.

Some Guy 02-05-2013 10:46 AM

If you work out hard on a regular basis then eating more actually can speed up your metabolism. I know this first-hand as I used to be pretty big into bodybuilding. Many sumo wrestlers achieve their size by eating one huge meal a day since this effectively slows their metabolism down.

(Everybody's different, however. What works for one person might not work for another. That's what most of these self-proclaimed diet gurus fail to realize.)

Rochard 02-05-2013 10:48 AM

Masturbation increases metabolism.

scuba steve 02-05-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19465727)
Masturbation increases metabolism.

might be true, i am pretty lean

Zuzana Designs 02-05-2013 10:55 AM

I use the eat less do more diet. It's never failed me. Nice to see you here again dyna :)
I make sure my calories in are less than what I burn daily. Simple math.

Google Expert 02-05-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19465713)
I lost 75 lbs by changing what I ate and walking a lot more. Now it's time to step that up and drop a little more

You look good in your avatar. The weight loss is noticeable.

TheSquealer 02-05-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Some Guy (Post 19465719)
Many sumo wrestlers achieve their size by eating one huge meal a day since this effectively slows their metabolism down.

They don't eat only once a day.
They nap through the middle of the day.
They also eat right before sleeping at night.
They eat a retarded amount of calories.

bl4h 02-05-2013 11:04 AM

i believe that when you eat you put a certain amount of calories in your body. If you dont burn said calories via exercise or other daily activity it will be stored as fat. it can come in small portions or a big portion once a day.

im still waiting to hear about someone who takes in 2000 calories, be it in portions or at one sitting, thats better off than the other. minus stuff like buildup of fat in teh arteries and stuff like that

Some Guy 02-05-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19465757)
They don't eat only once a day.

I didn't say they all do, I said many do and that's just a fact. It's not just sumo wrestlers who do the whole one-meal thing, either.

http://www.eatingfree.com/newtrition...-wrestler.aspx

http://www.theiflife.com/one-meal-a-day/

And, yes, they ingest shitloads of calories in that one meal.

dyna mo 02-05-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Some Guy (Post 19465768)
I didn't say they all do, I said many do and that's just a fact. It's not just sumo wrestlers who do the whole one-meal thing, either.

http://www.eatingfree.com/newtrition...-wrestler.aspx

http://www.theiflife.com/one-meal-a-day/

And, yes, they ingest shitloads of calories in that one meal.



the sumu diet is based on timing. meal timing does impact metabolism, or so *they* are learning. sumus train fasted and they eat or do not eat at specific times with the goal being gaining fat. and they consume gallons and gallons of beer.

sperbonzo 02-05-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19465727)
Masturbation increases metabolism.

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J. Falcon 02-05-2013 11:14 AM

Here is a great diet that is proven to work.

Carb Nite Solution

Been on it for one month and lost more than 6 kilos.

Jakke PNG 02-05-2013 11:18 AM

(ex) fat people have a harder time to keep their weight off as people who've been slim forever. An ex-fat guy needs to eat less to maintain the same weight as the person who's been that size "always". There's been quite a few studies into this recently.

How unfair is that? :)

So a guy who was 400lbs and loses 200lbs spends less calories/day than a guy who's always been 200lbs.

The body thinks the 400lbs is the norm and tries to get back to that. Hooray for the slugginesh of evolution.

i'm fat btw and I don't blame outside sources, like slow metabolism or having nature fight against me. Weight CAN be still lost regardless of these. I just don't have the time/will to dedicate time into losing weight. Maybe after my first heart-attack I'll reconsider.

_Richard_ 02-05-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 19465789)
(ex) fat people have a harder time to keep their weight off as people who've been slim forever. An ex-fat guy needs to eat less to maintain the same weight as the person who's been that size "always". There's been quite a few studies into this recently.

How unfair is that? :)

So a guy who was 400lbs and loses 200lbs spends less calories/day than a guy who's always been 200lbs.

The body thinks the 400lbs is the norm and tries to get back to that. Hooray for the slugginesh of evolution.

i'm fat btw and I don't blame outside sources, like slow metabolism or having nature fight against me. Weight CAN be still lost regardless of these. I just don't have the time/will to dedicate time into losing weight. Maybe after my first heart-attack I'll reconsider.

do a 30 minute brisk walk a day, and you'll be well on your way

beats waiting for the heart attack, yes?

Jakke PNG 02-05-2013 11:25 AM

I actually walk ~1 hour every day to and from work. A bit over 5 miles.
That's not the point of my post.

..and besides exercise doesn't make any fucking difference unless you spend 500kcal/day on exercise, and that means atleast an hour of ACTIVE exercise (like running/squash/whatever) per day. You lose weight by eating less.

_Richard_ 02-05-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 19465805)
I actually walk ~1 hour every day to and from work. A bit over 5 miles.
That's not the point of my post.

..and besides exercise doesn't make any fucking difference unless you spend 500kcal/day on exercise, and that means atleast an hour of ACTIVE exercise (like running/squash/whatever) per day. You lose weight by eating less.

you lose weight by low intensity exercise.. so walking, elliptical blah blah while keeping your heart rate low

it'll increase the oxygen in your system that allows fat to be burned more easily

eating is, always, crucial

seeandsee 02-05-2013 11:29 AM

eat 3-4 but extra small meals, training and results will come

bl4h 02-05-2013 11:42 AM

im 6'0... 185 pounds. that can be a good weight or a bad weight. For me its bad because i sit at the computer, and im all fluff and no bump. if i ate 3-4 small meals a day i guarantee you i wouldn't look any different than what i do, which is eat one meal a day.

The key is exercise not food. If you want to be buff, you have to take in a lot and exercise a lot. protien, green drinks, whatever. if you want to be normal you have to exercise and take in as many calories as you need to. doesnt matter if its 45 times a day or once.

I stand by the notion that portions mean jack shit. exercise matters, and it doesn't matter how often you eat

CourtneyR 02-05-2013 12:12 PM

Just cut out sodas and snack foods. My whole family is over weight besides myself. Only difference is i quit drinking soda and eating chips when i was about 12.

kristin 02-05-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 19465849)

I stand by the notion that portions mean jack shit. exercise matters, and it doesn't matter how often you eat

Portion size matters, for anyone.

Joshua G 02-05-2013 12:28 PM

wait a minute, stop this thread. There are people whose jobs depend on all the bullshit their companies spoon-feed the public. You guys trying to kill jobs here man? come on...

:winkwink:

CaptainHowdy 02-05-2013 12:31 PM

Our fitness polemicist is back!

dyna mo 02-05-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19465684)
Hmm Hmmmmm

tribute! :) :thumbsup



ajrocks 02-05-2013 12:44 PM

Eating more small meals does work but it isn't because it speeds up your system. Your body can only process and use so much food at a time. Anymore then can be used at the time of digestion is stored. Eat small meals more often and your body will be able to burn those calories more efficiently and store less of it as body fat.

Vendzilla 02-05-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cylon (Post 19465752)
You look good in your avatar. The weight loss is noticeable.

Thanx, leveled out on my weight for about a year and now starting back up, The lightest I can get is about 240, but I don't want to get less than 250.

shake 02-05-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19465679)
Even the most famous health and fitness gurus claim that eating 6x a day (3 meals + 3 snacks, for instance) boosts metabolism and therefore increases weight loss.
It's 100% bullshit.
I think 99% of people trying to lose weight actually believe in this myth.

Yeah I agree. I think you said in another thread that you are type 1 diabetic, which I am as well. As you know I'm sure people who are type 1 know exactly what level their metabolism is at as it directly effects insulin dosage.. Sit on your ass for two weeks and you'll have to take way more insulin, do a crazy bike race or something and for weeks afterwords your insulin dosage needsd to go way down... I think for people who aren't taking insulin they have no idea what their metabolism is currently doing.

Phoenix 02-05-2013 12:47 PM

can you offer more of an explanation?
I had thought it was a scientific fact, that when you eat just one meal a day your body will send some of the excess to fat storage. So eating more meals in a day will allow you to train your body not to store fat.

shake 02-05-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19465959)
can you offer more of an explanation?
I had thought it was a scientific fact, that when you eat just one meal a day your body will send some of the excess to fat storage. So eating more meals in a day will allow you to train your body not to store fat.

I'm sure eating only 1 meal a day wouldn't be a good idea for many reasons.

Shap 02-05-2013 01:00 PM

Dynamo now that you are back what happened? Why did you disappear? What happened with take charge? I had bought quite a few from you and had tried to contact you but you completely disappeared. how come? Why did you pull the site, facebook page etc. Were you sued?

dyna mo 02-05-2013 01:01 PM

looks like i'll have to do another thread someday debunking the myths re: intermittent fasting.

Choopa_Pardo 02-05-2013 01:04 PM

It's better to eat smaller portions five/six times per day than one or two mammoth meals.

WarChild 02-05-2013 01:05 PM

My personal trainer / registered nutrionist who also happens to be an IBBF ranked professional competitor strongly disagrees with you. :(

dyna mo 02-05-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19465993)
Dynamo now that you are back what happened? Why did you disappear? What happened with take charge? I had bought quite a few from you and had tried to contact you but you completely disappeared. how come? Why did you pull the site, facebook page etc. Were you sued?

ola Shap! take charge never took off. it didn't taste good enough. folks loved it if i gave it away free but only a few bought it, i was giving away a ton via fb advertising so i wrapped that up.

i also had personal, health, and other things that impacted me all at once as well.

georgeyw 02-05-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne (Post 19465718)
Whenever I see those insane workout or whatever infomercials, I think of you and your transformation.

I was actually trying to remember who that was the other day.

@ Dyna mo - are you still keeping up the workout / eating schedule/ If so care to share an average day of eating? I have 5 meals a day, the inbetween meals give me a nice pick me up inbetween major meals - usually a piece of fruit.

Shap 02-05-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19466012)
ola Shap! take charge never took off. it didn't taste good enough. folks loved it if i gave it away free but only a few bought it, i was giving away a ton via fb advertising so i wrapped that up.

i also had personal, health, and other things that impacted me all at once as well.

I understand. Why just disappear though? Seems weird. Just as a note I was impressed by what you had tried to do and would have tried to help you get some traction with it. But the fact you just disappeared I'd never back you or vouch for you to anyone. Just seems like such a weird move.

kane 02-05-2013 01:11 PM

To me the potential benefit of eating multiple smaller meals throughout the day is that it could help to curb hunger and reduce the chance of overeating. Other than that there doesn't appear to really be much of a benefit.

bronco67 02-05-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 19465959)
can you offer more of an explanation?
I had thought it was a scientific fact, that when you eat just one meal a day your body will send some of the excess to fat storage. So eating more meals in a day will allow you to train your body not to store fat.

Apparently he has empirical evidence because he lost a bunch of weight by NOT eating small meals throughout the day. But that doesn't make the small meals thing a myth. Lots of people actually do lose weight by keeping their metabolism stoked through feeding it more frequently -- and I have evidence to that fact because that's how I lose 10 pounds quickly before before summer every year.

dyna mo 02-05-2013 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 19466023)
I understand. Why just disappear though? Seems weird. Just as a note I was impressed by what you had tried to do and would have tried to help you get some traction with it. But the fact you just disappeared I'd never back you or vouch for you to anyone. Just seems like such a weird move.

i appreciate the kind words about the product, I know you (and 1 other from around here) were fans. i agree that I did not handle the events of that time as well as I could have, I felt overwhelmed by things.

dyna mo 02-05-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 19466014)
I was actually trying to remember who that was the other day.

@ Dyna mo - are you still keeping up the workout / eating schedule/ If so care to share an average day of eating? I have 5 meals a day, the inbetween meals give me a nice pick me up inbetween major meals - usually a piece of fruit.

i actually just eat these days and it works out fine. if 5/day work for you, i'd stick with it.

slapass 02-05-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 19465789)
(ex) fat people have a harder time to keep their weight off as people who've been slim forever. An ex-fat guy needs to eat less to maintain the same weight as the person who's been that size "always". There's been quite a few studies into this recently.

How unfair is that? :)

So a guy who was 400lbs and loses 200lbs spends less calories/day than a guy who's always been 200lbs.

The body thinks the 400lbs is the norm and tries to get back to that. Hooray for the slugginesh of evolution.

i'm fat btw and I don't blame outside sources, like slow metabolism or having nature fight against me. Weight CAN be still lost regardless of these. I just don't have the time/will to dedicate time into losing weight. Maybe after my first heart-attack I'll reconsider.

I try to use sex or the lack there of as the motivator.

Supz 02-05-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19465727)
Masturbation increases metabolism.

I can bust this myth.

Phoenix 02-05-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 19466008)
My personal trainer / registered nutrionist who also happens to be an IBBF ranked professional competitor strongly disagrees with you. :(

Same here...im currently developing a fitness/nutrition site and our in house expert just wrote an article saying the opposite.

dyna mo 02-05-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 19466008)
My personal trainer / registered nutrionist who also happens to be an IBBF ranked professional competitor strongly disagrees with you. :(

what do you think?

WarChild 02-05-2013 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19466049)
what do you think?

For the most part I agree with her.

One thing that's pretty undeniable is that by eating many smaller meals you're going to keep your blood sugar level more constant and hopefully avoid large insulin responses. That's probably the most critical part of the equation.


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