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NaughtyObserver 02-13-2013 07:39 AM
questions about some seo stuff
 
I have a niche driven wordpress multisite blog that I cover a lot of different 'naughtiest of the web' niche content all through out the network. I received a spam post on one of my blogs:

Quote:
Hello Web Admin, I noticed that your On-Page SEO is is missing a few factors, for one you do not use all three H tags in your post, also I notice that you are not using bold or italics properly in your SEO optimization. On-Page SEO means more now than ever since the new Google update: Panda. No longer are backlinks and simply pinging or sending out a RSS feed the key to getting Google PageRank or Alexa Rankings, You now NEED On-Page SEO. So what is good On-Page SEO?First your keyword must appear in the title.Then it must appear in the URL.You have to optimize your keyword and make sure that it has a nice keyword density of 3-5% in your article with relevant LSI (Latent Semantic Indexing). Then you should spread all H1,H2,H3 tags in your article.Your Keyword should appear in your first paragraph and in the last sentence of the page. You should have relevant usage of Bold and italics of your keyword.There should be one internal link to a page on your blog and you should have one image with an alt tag that has your keyword?.wait there?s even more Now what if i told you there was a simple WordPress plugin that does all the On-Page SEO, and automatically for you? That?s right AUTOMATICALLY, just watch this 4minute video for more information at
Here is what I draw from this:
  • you do not use all three H tags in your post - All my post titles are <h1>. I do not feel the need usually to use <h2> or <h3> all the time. Is this bad?
  • not using bold or italics properly - What is the proper way? Is this still relevant? Do I need to bold the keywords in my blog posts? Strategic bolding (like just one instance?)
  • keyword must appear in the title and url - If I'm writing about two lesbians with dildos and a fucking machine who also screw anally - how do I title my post? using all? [lesbian] [dildo] [fucking machine] [anal] Or do I just try and place one in the interest of not being 'spammy'? I use a permalinks that makes the post title the url, so that shouldn't be a problem. My posts usually take on a more general descriptive stance rather then keyword stuffing.
  • keyword density of 3-5% in your article with relevant LSI (Latent Semantic Indexing) - All of this just annoys me so I just try to write blog posts naturally as if I were speaking rather then try to strategically pound keywords. I don't even know what having relevant LSI even means.

Thanks for any information you an provide.

Kostly 02-13-2013 09:10 AM
Allot of this is bullshit, but some of it is true. You will get better results with keywords in your title and your body. I personally agree with your point on number 4, and point number 1 and 2 are stupid.

Tent Pitcher 02-13-2013 11:51 PM
Even if you followed all of that advice down to the last detail, you wouldn't notice much (if any) change in your search engine rankings. You are trying to break into a business with competition like no other on the web..."H" tags aren't going to get you ahead of them. Time, links and traffic are what you should be worrying about at this stage.

fonsolo 02-14-2013 02:14 AM
I use the Yoast SEO plugin for WP on both of my sites. It has a SEO checker for each page/post and all of these sans the "using all 3 H tags(there's more than three)" are criteria in which it checks for. On site SEO is of course important but I would still say that the "key" to SEO is relevant backlinks, although I'm no expert. If you run WP, you should check the Yoast plugin out. Just a suggestion, it's not like they pay me or anything.

JesseQuinn 02-16-2013 01:15 AM
^^^word on yoast

I feel you OP on wanting to write naturally for people, rather than for google. What I found most helpful initially about the yoast plugin was that it enabled me to write naturally and then tweak things after the fact for better seo. I found in a short time that my writing became more intuned with seo-principles while still feeling natural, because the plugin really helps illustrate specific things you can do to make great text more valuable to google. If I tried to follow all the instructions you got from your spammer I'd write copy none of my customers would want to read as it would no doubt sound clinical and forced.

I found Yoast to be an incredibly helpful learning tool because I learned by doing, not just reading. I still love the plugin, but I'm better at seo myself because of what I learned using it.

what odd spam, though

NaughtyObserver 02-16-2013 05:09 AM
Does yoast conflict with XML sitemaps or all in one seo?

Barry-xlovecam 02-21-2013 02:07 AM
You have to discuss the topic that you are writing about so the search engines will understand that is on that topic.

Try to avoid; he, she, it, their, and other words that are nondescript. You can be specific and use natural language if you are thinking about it.

fonsolo 02-21-2013 04:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyObserver (Post 19483842)
Does yoast conflict with XML sitemaps or all in one seo?
Not certain if it conflicts with either(although I don't know if it's necessary to have 2 SEO plugins), but it does have it's own XML Sitemap generator integrated in.

gmgaffiliate 02-27-2013 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fonsolo (Post 19492511)
Not certain if it conflicts with either(although I don't know if it's necessary to have 2 SEO plugins), but it does have it's own XML Sitemap generator integrated in.
Yes the Yoast plugin can do the XML sitemap generation there is no need for all in one seo or any other wordpress seo plugin.

gmgaffiliate 02-27-2013 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyObserver (Post 19478591)
I have a niche driven wordpress multisite blog that I cover a lot of different 'naughtiest of the web' niche content all through out the network. I received a spam post on one of my blogs:



Here is what I draw from this:
  • you do not use all three H tags in your post - All my post titles are <h1>. I do not feel the need usually to use <h2> or <h3> all the time. Is this bad?
  • not using bold or italics properly - What is the proper way? Is this still relevant? Do I need to bold the keywords in my blog posts? Strategic bolding (like just one instance?)
  • keyword must appear in the title and url - If I'm writing about two lesbians with dildos and a fucking machine who also screw anally - how do I title my post? using all? [lesbian] [dildo] [fucking machine] [anal] Or do I just try and place one in the interest of not being 'spammy'? I use a permalinks that makes the post title the url, so that shouldn't be a problem. My posts usually take on a more general descriptive stance rather then keyword stuffing.
  • keyword density of 3-5% in your article with relevant LSI (Latent Semantic Indexing) - All of this just annoys me so I just try to write blog posts naturally as if I were speaking rather then try to strategically pound keywords. I don't even know what having relevant LSI even means.

Thanks for any information you an provide.
I think your on the right track avoid listening to this advice, I rarely use all the H tags on my blog posts, the search engines are good at determining what a page/article is about so yes its good if you can have the keyword in the title but if you don't its not a killer. Keyword density is just a joke just write it naturally include some of your keywords but definitely don't follow this 3-5% formula.

What Google and other major search engines are looking for are websites that aren't trying to be manipulative and sites that are adding value to its visitors. If you go around trying to be too exact you could get burned, that's why Google has come out with over optimization penalties and things of that nature because they want webmasters to take a more natural approach, still follow the basic rules.

I personally have a lot of examples of websites where I just built up a lot of quality pages and I'm ranked on the home page even with very little link building, it's just that I picked the right keywords and posted the best content out of all the competition on the first 2 pages.

Paz 02-27-2013 10:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyObserver (Post 19478591)
Thanks for any information you an provide.
Go with your instincts and write for users and don't aim it at search engines. Google makes it its business to provide informative, engaging, diverse (and original) content in its search results.

To see how much effort it puts into these, do a search in your niche and then look at the "search tools" and click on reading level and switch from basic to advanced and check out the difference.

Anyway, when was the last time you clicked on a result and thought; "Great use of H tags and bold - shame about the content..."


Cheers,
Paz.

demographics1 03-11-2013 01:40 PM
Good advice here.

Do not overthink the SEO stuff. Learn the basics of onsite SEO from, say, seobook.com or whatever. Then build links over time AND add content over time. Do not let the site sit idle!

And crap inlinks are a waste of time. Pay someone to write articles or blog posts. Pay some other site owners to publish these on their (related) sites/blogs.


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