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purecane 06-05-2013 10:34 AM
About to start branding a CAM whitelabel on a growing tube...
 
Who is the best for this and why?? we are after revshare.....:pimp

purecane 06-05-2013 11:13 AM
bueller, bueller.....bueller..............bueller.

hello people, i'm asking a question here.

vending_machine 06-05-2013 12:38 PM
Check the big tubes and click the LIVE CAMS button. See what whitelabel most of them run.

Tofu 06-05-2013 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19656218)
Who is the best for this and why?? we are after revshare.....:pimp
Right here! We can create a wonderful white label for you with all the
bells and whistles. No problem, at all!

I usually catch threads like this, early and appologize for the delay!
Contact me via any of the methods in my signature and we'll chat.

Thank you for your time.

:)

spiederman 06-05-2013 05:03 PM
since tube visitors dont intend to pay for it...try chaturbate or bongacams

Fat Panda 06-05-2013 05:04 PM
rofl you're about a decade late. walk down to mcdonalds and try to get a job you'll make more money there

VS_Jeff 06-05-2013 05:17 PM
Tube traffic is a different beast. If you want to test out our White Labels, we just launch a bunch of new features. Hit me up on Skype if you have any questions. jeff.vsmedia

www.videosecrets.com

NewOldPlayer 06-06-2013 01:35 AM
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same. They lure you with amazing PPS deals... and after you do all the work and set up all the links.... you make a few sales and think, "yes a good program" ...and then, you'll notice thru the months your sales dwindle down to shit??? So you send more and more traffic, and still no sales? Mean time you're sending massive amounts of traffic in.

It's the same bullshit with all the webcam sites I've rep'd over the years. When you inquire as to "what happened to my sales, I've sent in 500,000 hits this month...They respond by saying "oh, the market is slow right now, sales suck...." but the truth is, the skimming and stealing has been perfected to a science. Digital crime is the hardest to detect and what average person has the time and money to sue a webcam company for a drop in sales?

Webcam companies KNOW that even if sales suck, you won't take down all the links because you worked so hard to put them all up. Then, denial kicks in. "oh, next month sales will be better..." LOL Then after a few more months of no sales, you forget about it and move on. But, what you don't know is all your links are sending sales in and there's not a dam thing you can do about it.

The skimming and stealing is so rampant it's hilarious. Site owners pay off 10 dummy accounts and flash the stats to the general public, then steal all the rest.

The porn market is a huge multi billion dollar industry. Sales down? Not a chance. What, you think there is a shortage of testosterone and guys jerking off online? Why do you think these stunning women are all doing webcams? Because that's where the new money is. Sure, your webcam sales suck.... but not their sales. It's the skimming and stealing that is has increased so much, that everybody thinks the market has bottomed out. Webcam affiliates are fools. Nothing but sheep doing all the work for online thieves with no regulation, no inspections, nothing at all. A license to steal right under your nose.

EranG 06-06-2013 02:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19656218)
Who is the best for this and why?? we are after revshare.....:pimp
Contact me if you are interested in becoming our white label co-branding partner.
All solutions are possible with us as well as the highest payouts around:
35% Rev + $300 registration bonus + monthly campaigns that boost your revenue way higher.
here's how one WL looks like: http://www.drtuberlive.com/

No funny stuff here. let's chat (skype: eran.gan)

daniel_webcams 06-06-2013 04:30 AM
I can show you a couple of our webcams.com white labels we created for some of our affiliates, we have plenty of tools (white label compatible) you could use to push traffic on your white label. Hit me up / email me, lets talk :).

PornDiscounts-V 06-06-2013 04:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel_webcams (Post 19657335)
I can show you a couple of our webcams.com white labels we created for some of our affiliates, we have plenty of tools (white label compatible) you could use to push traffic on your white label. Hit me up / email me, lets talk :).
These guys convert for me and they set up my white label for me.

Dmcontent 06-06-2013 04:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19657226)
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same. They lure you with amazing PPS deals... and after you do all the work and set up all the links.... you make a few sales and think, "yes a good program" ...and then, you'll notice thru the months your sales dwindle down to shit??? So you send more and more traffic, and still no sales? Mean time you're sending massive amounts of traffic in.

It's the same bullshit with all the webcam sites I've rep'd over the years. When you inquire as to "what happened to my sales, I've sent in 500,000 hits this month...They respond by saying "oh, the market is slow right now, sales suck...." but the truth is, the skimming and stealing has been perfected to a science. Digital crime is the hardest to detect and what average person has the time and money to sue a webcam company for a drop in sales?

Webcam companies KNOW that even if sales suck, you won't take down all the links because you worked so hard to put them all up. Then, denial kicks in. "oh, next month sales will be better..." LOL Then after a few more months of no sales, you forget about it and move on. But, what you don't know is all your links are sending sales in and there's not a dam thing you can do about it.

The skimming and stealing is so rampant it's hilarious. Site owners pay off 10 dummy accounts and flash the stats to the general public, then steal all the rest.

The porn market is a huge multi billion dollar industry. Sales down? Not a chance. What, you think there is a shortage of testosterone and guys jerking off online? Why do you think these stunning women are all doing webcams? Because that's where the new money is. Sure, your webcam sales suck.... but not their sales. It's the skimming and stealing that is has increased so much, that everybody thinks the market has bottomed out. Webcam affiliates are fools. Nothing but sheep doing all the work for online thieves with no regulation, no inspections, nothing at all. A license to steal right under your nose.
Agree 100%

purecane 06-06-2013 04:59 AM
Thanx for the responses so far guys.... Will be contacting some if you today to chat about our options... Tofu, check your Skype ....

Barry-xlovecam 06-06-2013 05:40 AM
Do business with people you feel you can trust.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19657226)
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same.... rant rant rant .... Webcam affiliates are fools. Nothing but sheep doing all the work for online thieves with no regulation, no inspections, nothing at all. A license to steal right under your nose.

</SOUR GRAPES>:upsidedow
Invest a few million dollars, create your own webcam broadcasting and video streaming then show us how to do it the "right way." We are all waiting ...

You want a regulated industry? Work for a bank or a drug manufacturer.

We make money without cheating our Models, Studios or Affiliates.

Want my advice?

If you are serious: Join a few cam programs and make a few test buys at each with different IPs, credit cards -- unannounced and see if they show in your stats. There may be some billing issues or fraud -- find out. It's called due diligence and that is your responsibility.

Invest a couple of hundred dollars before you sent massive traffic or come to GFY to "cry in your beer."

Do business with people you feel you can trust.

adultmobile 06-06-2013 07:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19657392)
Invest a couple of hundred dollars before you sent massive traffic or come to GFY to "cry in your beer."
No one investing serious money in anything would be in GFY board, in first place :)

Tofu 06-06-2013 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19657226)
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same. They lure you with amazing PPS deals... and after you do all the work and set up all the links.... you make a few sales and think, "yes a good program" ...and then, you'll notice thru the months your sales dwindle down to shit??? So you send more and more traffic, and still no sales? Mean time you're sending massive amounts of traffic in.

It's the same bullshit with all the webcam sites
Who left a turd on your pillow, this morning? C'mon...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19657392)
Invest a few million dollars, create your own webcam broadcasting and video streaming then show us how to do it the "right way." We are all waiting ...

You want a regulated industry? Work for a bank or a drug manufacturer.

We make money without cheating our Models, Studios or Affiliates.

Want my advice?

If you are serious: Join a few cam programs and make a few test buys at each with different IPs, credit cards -- unannounced and see if they show in your stats. There may be some billing issues or fraud -- find out. It's called due diligence and that is your responsibility.

Invest a couple of hundred dollars before you sent massive traffic or come to GFY to "cry in your beer."

Do business with people you feel you can trust.
I shortened my previous reply, because you pretty much nailed it, right there. :thumbsup


.

Nicky 06-06-2013 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19657226)
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same. They lure you with amazing PPS deals... and after you do all the work and set up all the links.... you make a few sales and think, "yes a good program" ...and then, you'll notice thru the months your sales dwindle down to shit??? So you send more and more traffic, and still no sales? Mean time you're sending massive amounts of traffic in.

It's the same bullshit with all the webcam sites I've rep'd over the years. When you inquire as to "what happened to my sales, I've sent in 500,000 hits this month...They respond by saying "oh, the market is slow right now, sales suck...." but the truth is, the skimming and stealing has been perfected to a science. Digital crime is the hardest to detect and what average person has the time and money to sue a webcam company for a drop in sales?

Webcam companies KNOW that even if sales suck, you won't take down all the links because you worked so hard to put them all up. Then, denial kicks in. "oh, next month sales will be better..." LOL Then after a few more months of no sales, you forget about it and move on. But, what you don't know is all your links are sending sales in and there's not a dam thing you can do about it.

The skimming and stealing is so rampant it's hilarious. Site owners pay off 10 dummy accounts and flash the stats to the general public, then steal all the rest.

The porn market is a huge multi billion dollar industry. Sales down? Not a chance. What, you think there is a shortage of testosterone and guys jerking off online? Why do you think these stunning women are all doing webcams? Because that's where the new money is. Sure, your webcam sales suck.... but not their sales. It's the skimming and stealing that is has increased so much, that everybody thinks the market has bottomed out. Webcam affiliates are fools. Nothing but sheep doing all the work for online thieves with no regulation, no inspections, nothing at all. A license to steal right under your nose.
I send daily cam PPS sales, not that much traffic needed even...

Nicky 06-06-2013 09:52 AM
Find converting keywords and target them and you will get sales.
http://www.weboflinks.com/webwiz.jpg

So far in June, no bought traffic only organic search.

To OP, I recommend Webcamwiz.com :thumbsup

MainstreamGuy 06-06-2013 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19657226)
Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a webcam affiliate program is a fool.

It's all un regulated. They are all the same. They lure you with amazing PPS deals... and after you do all the work and set up all the links.... you make a few sales and think, "yes a good program" ...and then, you'll notice thru the months your sales dwindle down to shit??? So you send more and more traffic, and still no sales? Mean time you're sending massive amounts of traffic in.

It's the same bullshit with all the webcam sites I've rep'd over the years. When you inquire as to "what happened to my sales, I've sent in 500,000 hits this month...They respond by saying "oh, the market is slow right now, sales suck...." but the truth is, the skimming and stealing has been perfected to a science. Digital crime is the hardest to detect and what average person has the time and money to sue a webcam company for a drop in sales?

Webcam companies KNOW that even if sales suck, you won't take down all the links because you worked so hard to put them all up. Then, denial kicks in. "oh, next month sales will be better..." LOL Then after a few more months of no sales, you forget about it and move on. But, what you don't know is all your links are sending sales in and there's not a dam thing you can do about it.

The skimming and stealing is so rampant it's hilarious. Site owners pay off 10 dummy accounts and flash the stats to the general public, then steal all the rest.

The porn market is a huge multi billion dollar industry. Sales down? Not a chance. What, you think there is a shortage of testosterone and guys jerking off online? Why do you think these stunning women are all doing webcams? Because that's where the new money is. Sure, your webcam sales suck.... but not their sales. It's the skimming and stealing that is has increased so much, that everybody thinks the market has bottomed out. Webcam affiliates are fools. Nothing but sheep doing all the work for online thieves with no regulation, no inspections, nothing at all. A license to steal right under your nose.

Well, lots of sense in your post, but what's your alternative? Paysites?

The only thing that people are focusing right now are Cams...

What I don't like about Cam sponsors I tried is that they don't give you any information about your sales.

For example, Chaturbate doesn't give you any detail. I really have no way to check more into my stats. They could be using a MACH3 badly and I have no even a remote idea to figure it out. You can't even see how many paying members you have, or how much they spend... I can't believe it. Almost ZERO information in chaturbate stats...

I'm starting to try other cam sponsors right now, but it will take some time before my new cam whitelabels with all the SEO work I did, start receiving traffic from Google. Time will tell.

adultmobile 06-06-2013 05:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MainstreamGuy (Post 19658049)
What I don't like about Cam sponsors I tried is that they don't give you any information about your sales.
For example, Chaturbate doesn't give you any detail.
Lately cam sites are getting all the hate... Some programs show you more details, some are less detailed, but it may be just lazy developers, not just shaving. For example our program shows nicknames of each user, its country, minutes he been online since signup, even for the free leads offer. This way, you can check signup by signup that usernames you may register at times to double check are all listed, and not shaved. In fact I wonder if those who complain on cams even tried all the cam programs, and sent any relevant volume of traffic, in order to have any data to say anything.

Barry-xlovecam 06-06-2013 06:58 PM
We have detailed stats for our affiliates
 


We try to be as transparent as possible.
And we don't trash your sales with "Stats Maintenance"
The XML is part French :upsidedow


General Stats
Filter
XloveCam
XloveGay
XWL Whitelabels
(each WL domain name)

General Stats

Date Visits Pages Sign Ups Sales Sales Ratio Sales
New Customers Sales Ratio
New Customers Sales Value (€) Commissions (€)

Commissions Sign Ups Sales Visits Pages
Totals
Average per day


In addition to a pie chart by selected dates sorted by country (on your sales and free signups)

Free Signups:

XML stats that you can query by date

<inscriptions id="11111" from="2013-05-01 00:00:00" to="2013-05-30 23:59:59" total="500">
<inscription>
<pseudo>user_name</pseudo>
<Date>2013-05-29 00:31:43</Date>
<Tracking>Your_Tracking_Codes</Tracking>
<Site>
<Name>XloveCam</Name>
<URL>http://www.xlovecam.com</URL>
</Site>
</inscription>

Sales Data that you can query by date


Last Sales Statistics for All Websites

Choose the period :
Today Yesterday Last 7 days Last 30 days Custom

⇑ ID Sales Date of purchase Referral Customer Country Sale Mode Sale Value (€) Commission (€) % Tracking Info
(sort by columns)

<commisions id="1272" from="2013-05-01 00:00:00" to="2013-05-30 23:59:59" total="110" date="2013-06-07 03:41:13">
<commision>
<id>3354083</id>
<Date>2013-05-30 21:21:50</Date>
<Referal>yes</Referal> <!-- Webmaster Referral Comm-->
<Status>Subject to chargeback</Status>
<details>
<Value>0.5</Value>
<Currency>euro</Currency>
</details>
</commision>

<commision>
<id>xxxxxxxx</id>
<Date>2013-05-30 21:21:50</Date>
<pseudo>user_name</pseudo>
<Tracking>Your_Tracking_Codes</Tracking>
<Referal>no</Referal> <!-- Referral Sale-->
<Status>Subject to chargeback</Status>
<details>
<Value>7.5</Value>
<Currency>euro</Currency>
</details>
</commision>

We have tried to give good stats reporting to affiliates. You can add your own tracking parameters on the fly and they will be reported back to you on your signup and sales.

2MuchMark 06-06-2013 08:31 PM
We have something brand new brewing. Contact me and I'll give you a demo. We think it will be perfect for your tube site.

dannypcash 06-07-2013 01:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by purecane73 (Post 19656218)
Who is the best for this and why?? we are after revshare.....:pimp
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NewOldPlayer 06-07-2013 02:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19657392)
Invest a few million dollars, create your own webcam broadcasting and video streaming then show us how to do it the "right way." We are all waiting ...

You want a regulated industry? Work for a bank or a drug manufacturer.

We make money without cheating our Models, Studios or Affiliates.

Want my advice?

If you are serious: Join a few cam programs and make a few test buys at each with different IPs, credit cards -- unannounced and see if they show in your stats. There may be some billing issues or fraud -- find out. It's called due diligence and that is your responsibility.

Invest a couple of hundred dollars before you sent massive traffic or come to GFY to "cry in your beer."

Do business with people you feel you can trust.
I have. Got a huge unresolved run around a year ago. "Charge didn't go" after I complained... or simply, they got caught and dumped the sale.

They know this 'move' so they put a GEO on your credit card from the location you signed up from making sure any stealth purchases go thru and get credited to your account. It's all simple manipulation. There are hundreds of ways to steal and cam sites are the easiest. They give you no info on your clients or sales and at anytime can issue you a charge back with no proof at all. If they need extra money, they issue hundreds of 'charge backs' to accounts with NO proof at all. Sure, one charge back is nothing to one client, but when it's done to hundreds over a few days... it's a federal crime. But who will ever know or ever find out???

The whole model is set up to keep affiliates in the dark. Did I say affiliates? I meant sheep. The cam site owners are making money hand over fist and have the very best programmers money can buy. So sophisticated that they can cover their asses with quick simple 'stand by' programs in case of a legal problem should arise... but never, EVER does.

There are only a few affiliates that make money and get their stats flashed by the web cam owners to seduce more affiliates to sign up.

High PPS's, big pay outs.... they are like crack dealers. Get high today (on a few quick sales)... then we own your ass. (all your links)

CurrentlySober 06-07-2013 02:40 AM
i like growing pubes...

NewOldPlayer 06-07-2013 02:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer (Post 19658771)
I have. Got a huge unresolved run around a year ago. "Charge didn't go" after I complained... or simply, they got caught and dumped the sale.

They know this 'move' so they put a GEO on your credit card from the location you signed up from making sure any stealth purchases go thru and get credited to your account. It's all simple manipulation. There are hundreds of ways to steal and cam sites are the easiest. They give you no info on your clients or sales and at anytime can issue you a charge back with no proof at all. If they need extra money, they issue hundreds of 'charge backs' to accounts with NO proof at all. Sure, one charge back is nothing to one client, but when it's done to hundreds over a few days... it's a federal crime. But who will ever know or ever find out???

The whole model is set up to keep affiliates in the dark. Did I say affiliates? I meant sheep. The cam site owners are making money hand over fist and have the very best programmers money can buy. So sophisticated that they can cover their asses with quick simple 'stand by' programs in case of a legal problem should arise... but never, EVER does.

There are only a few affiliates that make money and get their stats flashed by the web cam owners to seduce more affiliates to sign up.

High PPS's, big pay outs.... they are like crack dealers. Get high today (on a few quick sales)... then we own your ass. (all your links)
When I wrote "put a GEO" on your card... I mean, they don't steal any sales from the area you signed up from. (not from your card specifically)

Remember, they don't start stealing right away.. You get pay outs... it's a slow process of dwindling down your sales. There is no doubt they are "honest" because they paid you something.... they just slice away thru the months until you move on. It's about a 6 to 9 month process average with the 5 major cam sites I've rep'd over the years.

Big juice to start.... then, see where you at within the year. LOL. But don't worry, they are not stealing your sales... it's just a bad market, right?

Barry-xlovecam 06-07-2013 04:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewOldPlayer
... They know this 'move' so they put a GEO on your credit card from the location you signed up from making sure any stealth purchases go thru and get credited to your account. It's all simple manipulation. There are hundreds of ways to steal and cam sites are ...
I experienced just the opposite -- I have been in the cam business 13 years now and still have some long-term relationships with a few webcam companies as an Affiliate. Recently, I caught one sponsor (so far unnamed) shaving me when I made a test buy with a credit card in my own name never used with them and a gmail address. So, I know there are cheats in this business and I know how they cheat.

Now some don't outright cheat, they devise unobtainable or not very achievable affiliate compensation plans -- I wait in anticipation of the $666 PPS offer :1orglaugh

We don't offer PPS and we don't offer to pay 60% on some unobtainable or not very achievable sliding pay scale, e.g.; do 100K a month revshare and earn 90%.

Look, if you are going to have some integrity is this business it has to be in your intentions from the beginning.

If you are really convinced (and when I say you I speak collectively of everyone here) you will be shaved by all webcam companies -- find another job! Or, start your own webcam company! Crying in your beer here is useless.

However, I think you will find as I have that there are honest and dishonest people in all businesses. I have operated businesses in finance and construction and dealt in other fields for over 30 years. I know there are some real shit-heels out there but those people have bad intent from the beginning ...

adultmobile 06-07-2013 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19658856)
Recently, I caught one sponsor (so far unnamed) shaving me when I made a test buy with a credit card in my own name never used with them and a gmail address.
Ok don't tell what sponsor made it, but you could list the sponsors who it was not at least :)


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