Map of countries that have Universal Healthcare
 

Anybody able to draw any conclusions?
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt...aremap%20p.jpg

green is good, grey is bad??????????????

more universal healthcare in colder areas?

In Russia we really have free medicine, but it's mostly very bad.
So we are going to non-state clinics.
Anyway, even these clinics are very cheap and good.
So I think, there are not so many problems with medicine like in USA.

Universal healthcare is directly related to how much green you have.

Nope not true

Canada has Universal Healthcare? I guess it all depends on how much "health" you need taken "care" of.

Brazil and the mediterraneann are "colder areas"?

Michael Moore sad that. IS HE LIAR? IS HE?! :error

according to the map it is true.

Perhaps you should move.

They should include the tax rate as well.

And the average weight of their citizens.

Number of citizens would be at least as relevant; go ahead and include both.

I would say that countries that don't spend all their money on a giant, bloated military and try to police (and by "police" I mean RUN) the world...are able to afford to take tax money and spend it on health care instead of spending it on killing people.

I pay 65 bucks a month and if I have any situation,I'm taken care of in a timely manor.gone through a few surgeries and many specialists.I would see that costing hundreds of thousands in other countries.works for me

Where do you live?

I have dual citizenship...USA and Canada.

I once used my Canadian government medical insurance to cover a hospital visit in the USA for a light ankle sprain (I initially thought it was more serious). The doctor basically told the nurse to rub some ointment on my ankle and had a nurse wrap it up. Total visit time about 25 to 35 minutes.

The Canadian government insurance reimbursed the hospital about $450 USD. That seems like a reasonable amount. But the hospital wanted an additional $3000+ USD LOL :321GFY

The canadian government has health insurance or your in the Canadian military?

Israel has an excellent social healthcare system and ginormous military.

Not in the Canadian military. I get Canadian government health insurance through "Health Insurance BC"

They do have a big military...but not close to what we are doing.

Think about it...we STILL occupy Japan and Germany 70 years after WW2

Hell, we probably spend money just on our military bases in Germany in a year than Israel will spend in a decade.

Now factor in that we have troops stationed in over 80 countries around the world.

And of course all those "forts" right here in the U.S.A. and it becomes apparent that we are spending way too goddamn much money on military.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-cont...y-spending.jpg

Yeah but I think the USA is paying for that ginormous Israeli military.

True, I totally agree with you. I've been for socialized medicine in the US and been voting for the left since I turned 18.

Yep and Egypt's army too. And a few dozen other armies around the world. All out of our pockets.

Which is why I became a Libertarian in 2012 and why I can't for the life of me understand why so-called "liberals" have suddenly become so damn pro-govt.

When I was a kid "liberals" were hippies and peace-niks protesting AGAINST Democrat Pres. Johnson and the Vietnam War. Now they just want to give everyone's money to the govt. to fund the giant war machine. :(

now there's a novel answer:2 cents::winkwink:

your map is incorrect...serbia has free health care or next to free you need to pay like 1$ participation fee when you go to a doctor...

heres a good joke : US healthcare :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

cuba has a lower infant mortality yet free health care

the US gov = you know its not a rip off :thumbsup

Yes.

All the people in green speak english with a funny accent?

you forgot to tell that system is so corrupted that most of the time some doctors will do anything to force you to go to private clinic instead to stay on public. My Girlfriend recently broke her arm, they did fast job but offered phone to call them and get better alternative for gypsum. Price, 50 eur.

he didn't mention that because that part wasn't mentioned in the michael moore movie he learned about this from.

he is partially in right because there is free health care for everyone but it is not so good as it was back in the days of socialism where everyone really had absolute help. Now you need money and many people die because of that. It is complete mess if you ask me.

Yeah, and the US pays $3.5 Billion dollars a year for that.

:helpme

Far from it, My healthcare fucking rocks! Eh, Go Canada, Eh :thumbsup

Map of country that rules the world? teehee.

http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/images/co...ted_states.gif

Some of those countries (Using Russia as an example) have people who would rather stay home and take their chances with appendicitis than go to the hospital and face almost certain death at the hands of inept doctors and a filthy hospital. Those that have money pay for good health care.

Agreed : http://www.gfmag.com/tools/global-da...#axzz2VpIQEdmt

Canada is between 20-48% vs USA 20-35%

We are getting reemed in the ass up here in Canuckstikan :(

you can afford it now, furthermore, you can't afford NOT to go universal healthcare

however, that would mean you take the pie of a bunch of fat cats in direct control of your government. Pharma arm of your military

Monsanto, military

Big Oil, military

etcetc

in Canada we have an amazing health care system for the most part. what we don't have is a music scene anymore. happy to trade...

what many people don't get is in all of those countries we "occupy", they don't pay for their own militaries since we do that for them.

we pull out of that arrangement and those countries no longer get free security and, consequently, free/discounted/cheaper health care.

the united shit states of amerika has a system of wealth care. only criminal socialists who steal money from middle class and poor receive care. the rest slowly die for profit.

fuck the usa its a cesspool of socialist maggots and freeloading parasites

Brother, if we could get the govt to stop allowing Big Pharma and the Medical Industry to price gouge the fuck out of us... we wouldn't NEED "Universal Health Care".

We could all just afford to pay for it ourselves...just like we did for a couple of hundred years.

The price gouging here in the U.S. is outrageous and the govt. hasn't addressed that problem at all.

If Canadian pharmacies and doctors were allowed to charge what they do here in the U.S. you guys would be bankrupt in no time. :(

pharmacies and doctors have very little to do with it. My understanding is most of the 'waste' is done at an administrative level

did you know, that, statistically, Canada helps more people for less money than the US?

Good business, no?

Whats wrong bro....you don't like Indian or Chinese music?

A lot of it is administrative, administrative between hospitals and insurance companies. Total waste.

A lot of it is price gouging. Example; I sometimes get gout.

The Dr in Kentucky prescribed a medication that you take once a day, cost $240. for a months supply. My expired prescription from Florida was $4.00 for 90 days. The difference? One is time released one isn't. Is that an advancement in medicine or just profit seeking?


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free market is not always the answer

When it costs 2 to 3 times more for the exact same medication here in the U.S. than anywhere else in the country...that's plain out ripping us off.

I remember a few years back that they tried to claim that U.S. customers had to pay more to help keep "research" going for the rest of the world.

Well, I was born in the day...but not yesterday! lol That's a scam...pure and simple

That is MARGINAL tax rate, not average.. Marginal rate is "How much tax would you pay on an extra dollar, had you earned $1 more in a year".

To get to the highest rate, you need to be making a lot of money. It only affects a very small portion of the population.

For the average person making ~$40-50k a year, the taxes aren't that different from the US and Canada.

the health care is still free compared to the rip off that US health care is...it is a shame we lost our completely completely free health care it took 2 wars and 20 years of economic sanctions against a 3rd world country...just pointing out what a fucking rip off joke US health care is...

CIA 2013 stats:

infant mortality USA 5.9/1000
infant mortality cuba 4.76/1000
infant mortality serbia 6.28/1000 (and we are really a shit hole LOL)

what a fucking joke...the USA kept cuba like under 50 years of economic sanctions and they still have better health care than the USA...the USA kept serbia under 20+ years and 2 wars...

joke: US healthcare :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Uhmm your in euro right?
Well in the USA that would have been around $5,000 to $10,000 USD to do the same :2 cents:

50 euro? come on man