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Markul 08-22-2013 01:42 AM

Termination of White Label Dating Services (thedatingstudio.com)
 
Some new business is opening up for someone. I did good with these guys for years and now I get this:

Quote:

Re: Partner Update - Termination of White Label Dating Services

As you're probably aware at TheDatingStudio.com we share our database with Cupid plc. We have always done this and as a consequence have collectively enjoyed a wide spread of potential dating clientele. It is this along with the joint CRM marketing, Customer Service and E mail marketing that has made the business successful.

Recently Cupid plc decided to sell off its "casual" dating assets. Unfortunately this decision has had a direct impact on our ability to offer a viable white label solution to our partners. The new owners of the Cupid "casual" brands have decided that they no longer wish to support third party clients and as such have given us notice of this decision. Sadly this means we have to give you notice on both the casual and traditional side. This is not something we want to do, but unfortunately have no choice. We have looked at all sorts of alternatives but to no avail.

We therefore must officially write to you to give you two months notice as per your contract to terminate our white label relationship. As from 1 September 2013 all revenue shares will be adjusted to that of the base rate advertised on our website. All payments will be made as per our standard terms and conditions over the next two months with the final payment ending on October 31st 2013 which you will receive November 20th 2013. We are genuinely sorry to have to give you this news, and we would like to personally thank you for your business.

We would advise you to stop all currently marketing or redirect them to other providers while the websites you hold with us are running down. Please contact the team at [email protected] if you need any suggestions for alternative providers or migrating your site(s) away from the platform.

Once again we would like to thank you for your continued business over the years.

In the next week or so we will advise you of our new range of partner services under the Minx branding. We, like you, are disappointed in not being able to offer you the existing dating services, however we are not going to let a decision beyond our control impact our business and our relationship with you. We have a fantastic range of new services that deliver excellent partner payouts. We will advise you very shortly of our great new offerings.

Kind Regards,
TheDatingStudio.com Management
I wonder how they'll handle me point my domains to some other whitelabel dating service, I mean there are A LOT of active members on at least one of em. So I've e-mailed asked for an extract of all active member data so I can pass it on.

I am betting I won't get that, but in any case - what's the best alternative for whitelabel dating sites these days? DatingFactory?

Markul 08-22-2013 01:54 AM

Yea that's what I thought:
Quote:

Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we would like to remind you that according to our Terms and conditions "8.1 All customer records and data relating to members registering and/or subscribing via your dating site, as well as existing members of your dating site, will be owned 100% by IDE Ltd.". So we have no possibility to share customer data with you.

If you have any further questions, please, do not hesitate to contact us.

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Markul 08-22-2013 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datingsystems (Post 19768795)
Hey

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Datingsystems 08-22-2013 06:40 AM

Thanks.

Seems like the admin truncated the sig. Here ya go:

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Rochard 08-22-2013 06:47 AM

Dating Factory will take all of your white label traffic. I'll be online all day to day if anyone has any questions about Dating Factory!

Markul 08-23-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19768884)
Dating Factory will take all of your white label traffic. I'll be online all day to day if anyone has any questions about Dating Factory!

Somehow I missed this, but I didn't miss the e-mail :thumbsup

TumblrPRO 08-24-2013 01:09 AM

There is an interesting observation I just figured out with this thread.

I have never heard from this sponsor before, TheDatingStudio.com... Strange is not it?

I just did a search on GFY and nobody talked about it before, besides this thread and a lost post inside a thread vaguely naming it. Just try a search and you will see. Can't believe it really.

I just saw a guy complaining in another forum, due of the same problem as you, because he had a whitelabel there with 500 active members.

With things like this, you can see that people are hiding their good sponsors, their tricks, their gold-mines, or what they do to make money, and not talking about them publicly, not even giving a remote edge of what works for them.

You only find out when people come to a forum and complain because the sponsor is closing.

I wonder how many other things people are pushing right now that they don't talk about at all in forums and that are doing them big bucks. They won't say a word at all. Not even a remote edge of what they do.

lagcam 08-24-2013 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19771598)
There is an interesting observation I just figured out with this thread.

I have never heard from this sponsor before, TheDatingStudio.com... Strange is not it?

I just did a search on GFY and nobody talked about it before, besides this thread and a lost post inside a thread vaguely naming it. Just try a search and you will see. Can't believe it really.

I just saw a guy complaining in another forum, due of the same problem as you, because he had a whitelabel there with 500 active members.

With things like this, you can see that people are hiding their good sponsors, their tricks, their gold-mines, or what they do to make money, and not talking about them publicly, not even giving a remote edge of what works for them.

You only find out when people come to a forum and complain because the sponsor is closing.

I wonder how many other things people are pushing right now that they don't talk about at all in forums and that are doing them big bucks. They won't say a word at all. Not even a remote edge of what they do.

Much the same as in the real world eh?

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Markul 08-26-2013 12:02 AM

These guys should be politicians:

Me:
Hello,

I presume that the members on my sites, are transferred somewhere and the earnings I generate are being credited to me?

Please confirm.

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that according to our Terms and Conditions "Payments will only be issued once you have accrued a minimum of £100 in revenue share, generated by your dating site". As for the members of your dating sites we would like to remind you that according to our Terms and Conditions "8.1 All customer records and data relating to members registering and/or subscribing via your dating site, as well as existing members of your dating site, will be owned 100% by IDE Ltd."


Since they just paid me last week, my current balance is: £13.50 - I guess that's what prompted the £100 reply

Me:
Hello,

So in plain English, you are not crediting future rebills from the time you cancel the whitelabels?

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that users which will be transfered from your dating sites will be free to cancel their subscription on this new site anytime.

Me:
Hi Again.

But if they don't, will I be credited with the rebills?

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that last partner payment is planned on 20th of November 2013 for October 2013.

[end]

And in a way, that last reply answers what they could have done in the first reply. Comic :)

JerseyPuma 08-27-2013 08:55 AM

i can tell you that we are pretty much in the same boat as you, and its not small potatoes. its easily one of the shadiest things ive seen in 13 years of being in this (adult and adult dating) business, and ive seen some shady ass things.

if this isn't actionable then i don't know what is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19773251)
These guys should be politicians:

Me:
Hello,

I presume that the members on my sites, are transferred somewhere and the earnings I generate are being credited to me?

Please confirm.

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that according to our Terms and Conditions "Payments will only be issued once you have accrued a minimum of £100 in revenue share, generated by your dating site". As for the members of your dating sites we would like to remind you that according to our Terms and Conditions "8.1 All customer records and data relating to members registering and/or subscribing via your dating site, as well as existing members of your dating site, will be owned 100% by IDE Ltd."


Since they just paid me last week, my current balance is: £13.50 - I guess that's what prompted the £100 reply

Me:
Hello,

So in plain English, you are not crediting future rebills from the time you cancel the whitelabels?

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that users which will be transfered from your dating sites will be free to cancel their subscription on this new site anytime.

Me:
Hi Again.

But if they don't, will I be credited with the rebills?

IDE Ltd Partners:
Thank you for contacting IDE Ltd. white label solution.

As for your query we can inform you that last partner payment is planned on 20th of November 2013 for October 2013.

[end]

And in a way, that last reply answers what they could have done in the first reply. Comic :)


Y4DF 08-27-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19768598)
Some new business is opening up for someone. I did good with these guys for years and now I get this:



I wonder how they'll handle me point my domains to some other whitelabel dating service, I mean there are A LOT of active members on at least one of em. So I've e-mailed asked for an extract of all active member data so I can pass it on.

I am betting I won't get that, but in any case - what's the best alternative for whitelabel dating sites these days? DatingFactory?

Hi! Yes.. Dating Factory is the best way to transfer your dating sites. We are the leader in White label dating solutions. We can provide you with a seamless transfer so you don't lose traffic and revenue. We are working with site owners who are in the same position as you. Contact me to make your move now at [email protected]

Datingsystems 08-27-2013 12:52 PM

Good to talk to you Markul the other day on Skype about this ;-)

Your "thedatingstudio" / "amorix" white label dating members and recurring revenue as with all clients are sadly LOST forever.

You wont be able to "transfer" your dating site database either as they wont provide it to you and thats gone too.

Its a bitch and something we have a solution for.

Any partners who are looking for a future proof system with more control, more revenue and more features than anyone out there gimme a ping.


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