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VforVendetta 10-09-2013 10:53 PM
My Streamate wl receive a penalty on google
 
Today i received an email from google webmaster tools that say i received a manual spam action for thin content/no value on my streamate wl:

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Google has detected that some of your pages may be using techniques that are outside our Webmaster Guidelines.

As a result of your site having thin content with little or no added value, Google has applied a manual spam action to +++++++. There may be other actions on your site or parts of your site.

Recommended action

Update your site so that it meets Google's Webmaster Guidelines.
Once you've made these changes, submit a reconsideration request.
For an updated list of manual actions currently applied to your site, visit the Manual Actions page. If no manual actions are listed, there is no longer a need to file a reconsideration request.

If we determine your site is no longer in violation of our guidelines, we'll revoke the manual action.

If you have any questions about how to resolve this issue, please visit the Webmaster Help Forum.
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socialerts 10-09-2013 11:34 PM
What type of links did you send to the site?

freecartoonporn 10-09-2013 11:41 PM
tell them to go fuck themselves.

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 12:34 AM
This happened to all (or almost all) stremate wl's. Exactly the same story that happened few months ago with LJ wl's.

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by socialerts (Post 19829106)
What type of links did you send to the site?
This type of penalty has nothing to do with the links, but with the content of the site.

PornDiscounts-V 10-10-2013 01:00 AM
I am wondering if the cam companies are involved.

socialerts 10-10-2013 01:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by livesexoncams (Post 19829149)
This type of penalty has nothing to do with the links, but with the content of the site.
True... just realized it's not penguin. My bad. That's the exact same message as the Livejasmin WLs got isn't it?
So, all the streamate WLs got this message?

TumblrPRO 10-10-2013 01:19 AM
Same here. Few days ago my StreaMate whitelabel went from page 1 in gugol, for many terms, to nowhere to be found for those terms...

What other cam whitelabels are gugol friendly?

I see whitelabels like VideoSecrets or ACWM suck so much in gugol. Both of them block all pages in gugol. They are both anti-gugol-friendly.

Any others?

baggg 10-10-2013 01:46 AM
Your whitelabel has the very same content like another 1000s,no wonder it doesnt rank in 2013

oppoten 10-10-2013 01:57 AM
I can totally understand why penalties are being applied to WL's, but that message looks so autocratic.

socialerts 10-10-2013 02:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19829175)
Same here. Few days ago my StreaMate whitelabel went from page 1 in gugol, for many terms, to nowhere to be found for those terms...

What other cam whitelabels are gugol friendly?

I see whitelabels like VideoSecrets or ACWM suck so much in gugol. Both of them block all pages in gugol. They are both anti-gugol-friendly.

Any others?
I have been successful using Webcam wiz white labels Both revshare and PPS.

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 03:21 AM
I assume that eventually all whitelabels will suffer the same penalty, even though they escaped for the moment.

VforVendetta 10-10-2013 03:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baggg (Post 19829184)
Your whitelabel has the very same content like another 1000s,no wonder it doesnt rank in 2013
Yes right, which other people received a penalty on their streamate wls ? Some months ago all the livejasmin wls were banned in the same moment

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 04:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VforVendetta (Post 19829267)
Yes right, which other people received a penalty on their streamate wls ? Some months ago all the livejasmin wls were banned in the same time
That's exactly what happened now with streamate whitelabels. It was probably applied based on the ip all these sites are sharing.

VforVendetta 10-10-2013 04:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by livesexoncams (Post 19829274)
That's exactly what happened now with streamate whitelabels. It was probably applied based on the ip all these sites are sharing.
i thought this thing could happen, but if i browse the "cam" serps i can see a lot of streamate wls yet

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 05:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VforVendetta (Post 19829277)
i thought this thing could happen, but if i browse the "cam" serps i can see a lot of streamate wls yet
This penalty does not de-index the sites affected. From my observation, it just shows them about -40 or -50 positions lower than they should be in serps.

geedub 10-10-2013 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19829166)
I am wondering if the cam companies are involved.
Yes streamate wants to make less money :thumbsup

DamianJ 10-10-2013 05:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by geedub (Post 19829353)
Yes streamate wants to payout less money to affiliates and keep it themselves :thumbsup
fixed your typo.

bns666 10-10-2013 05:48 AM
argh mine got penalized yesterday...

3xmedia 10-10-2013 05:51 AM
IMO, this will happen to all WL's, just a matter of time... 1000's of domains on the same IP with the same content? :error who will be the next? webcamwiz? hostedtube? :upsidedow

time to built the sites with real content.

pinkz 10-10-2013 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zdeneczek (Post 19829376)
IMO, this will happen to all WL's, just a matter of time... 1000's of domains on the same IP with the same content? who will be the next? webcamwiz? hostedtube?

time to built the sites with real content.
They will all get penalized in the same way eventually, it's only a matter of time.

Barry-xlovecam 10-10-2013 06:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19829166)
I am wondering if the cam companies are involved.
I can only speak for ourselves: We view Affiliate White Labels as a part of the overall traffic conversion funnel. Were is the logic in destroying your own Affiliate products? If you want Affiliates you need to honor your agreements within reason toward business needs and circumstance.

We do not use "tricks" (canonical links, noindex robots.txt) as part of our XWL White Label or XClone programs. That said, when you have a large number of templated white labels with identical content these Search Engine issues will arise.

If you want to use a white label of a cam site: Provide your own traffic as SEO of these type of products is precarious with hit or miss results a lot of the time. Take advantage of the brand value of established cam sites and take advantage of the customer trust they have earned -- they convert.

If you have your own pay-site or a network to send traffic to your own white label that makes sense too.

Sometimes, with the "right" domain name SEO may work but the SEO game has changed dramatically this year in favor of real providers of content -- to be successful today affiliate type sites must have their own value added content and not just be sites with thin content and ads for sponsors.

Matyko 10-10-2013 06:13 AM
i received the same shit as well.. :(

adultmobile 10-10-2013 06:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vvvvv (Post 19829166)
I am wondering if the cam companies are involved.
Cam companies can not be involved that much, even if they wanted.

pinkz 10-10-2013 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19829443)
Cam companies can not be involved that much, even if they wanted.
:thumbsup it's a gewgoooool thing!

oppoten 10-10-2013 06:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19829392)
to be successful today affiliate type sites must have their own value added content and not just be sites with thin content and ads for sponsors.
The problem is that the perception of value and spamming have also changed dramatically.

In the eyes of Google and the social web, everyone's a spammer unless they're offering up content for free. Even camgirls who provide quality content get called out for spamming. It's becoming a witch hunt, with users empowered by a crusader mentality that binds their loyalty to Google and the soicial sites.

Mediamix 10-10-2013 07:05 AM
Ask a question on Twitter seems like a good idea

Jel 10-10-2013 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19829465)
The problem is that the perception of value and spamming have also changed dramatically.

In the eyes of Google and the social web, everyone's a spammer unless they're offering up content for free.
Yup.

8char

adultmobile 10-10-2013 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19829465)
In the eyes of Google and the social web, everyone's a spammer unless they're offering up content for free. Even camgirls who provide quality content get called out for spamming.
I am not sure google can tell if a site provides for free or for pay cams. But users can, and they click and return on for free sites only, so google guess (via cookies , clicked links and analisys) these sites are what users searched for. You should blame users, not google - google simply automates putting up the sites that people is happy with and searched for. Who really seaches for "site where you must pay to get anything" ?

freecartoonporn 10-10-2013 07:24 AM
its time now, cam companies should allow whitelabels on dedicfated ips for few $$/month

pinkz 10-10-2013 07:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 19829509)
its time now, cam companies should allow whitelabels on dedicfated ips for few $$/month
with "G's" algo updating as often as it does I seriously doubt this would make that much difference. After all dupe content is exactly that and stands out like a sore thumb to a gewgool spider.

livesexoncams 10-10-2013 07:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkz (Post 19829535)
with "G's" algo updating as often as it does I seriously doubt this would make that much difference. After all dupe content is exactly that and stands out like a sore thumb to a gewgool spider.
Totally agree with this opinion!

Stephen 10-10-2013 07:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 19829509)
its time now, cam companies should allow whitelabels on dedicfated ips for few $$/month
It wouldn't make a bit of difference IMHO, as Google's algo will easily spots numerous copycat sites that are only differentiated by category names and the like, even if they are on unique IPs.

3xmedia 10-10-2013 08:07 AM
unique IPs might help a bit, maybe... anyway, now it's very easy for them to find out there is a lot of domains with the same content on an IP and penalize all of those domains on that IP at once.

adultmobile 10-10-2013 09:45 AM
Instead of WLs you could build sites with API's incorporating just the video/chat pieces into your "unique" own layout, but is not so fast or easy to do.
Or, use an iframe and include the cam site main url with your affil id, lots of our affiliates does this because we do not provide WLs, examples str8video.com , 656cams.com , www.assclap.org , I am unsure how google ranks a domain with another site in an iframe?

pinkz 10-10-2013 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19829777)
Instead of WLs you could build sites with API's incorporating just the video/chat pieces into your "unique" own layout, but is not so fast or easy to do.
Or, use an iframe and include the cam site main url with your affil id, lots of our affiliates does this because we do not provide WLs, examples str8video.com , 656cams.com , www.assclap.org , I am unsure how google ranks a domain with another site in an iframe?
Iframes as far as I know have no seo value whatsoever, someone can correct me if I'm wrong but am pretty sure that the spiders see them as a blank space.

Stephen 10-10-2013 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19829777)
Or, use an iframe and include the cam site main url with your affil id, lots of our affiliates does this because we do not provide WLs
I've done this with outdated WL designs that are intended for an 800x600 screen ( i.e. DG's WCC), incorporating the WL into a fluid design intended for hi-def+ displays -- but note that some WLs (AWE) breakout of frames, so your mileage may vary.

Framesets, when used correctly, can have enormous SEO benefits, although much of this is diminished in HTML5 :2 cents:

VS_Jeff 10-10-2013 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19829443)
Cam companies can not be involved that much, even if they wanted.
+1, it's a constant battle for all webcam companies.

Our WLs have been doing fine since the last update. We have a lot of SEO features on our WLs that we launched 3-4 months ago.

adultmobile 10-10-2013 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 19829991)
I've done this with outdated WL designs that are intended for an 800x600 screen
In fact we made the page autoresizable along with all the components. Some smart affiliate even made a framing that hides the site logo and overwrite with theirs, but I could not remember the url :)

_Richard_ 10-10-2013 01:35 PM
thought wl were getting hammered

leboobs 10-10-2013 08:20 PM
WLs are essentially duplicate content from the main site with different branding, I'm surprised you managed to get them ranking at all.

GAMEFINEST 10-10-2013 08:45 PM
It will only get worse with more updates..

TumblrPRO 10-11-2013 01:56 AM
Even Free Ones received the penalty... Try searching for free ones cams... No longer to be found. Now only their Stream RAY shows up.

adultmobile 10-11-2013 09:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leboobs (Post 19830573)
WLs are essentially duplicate content from the main site with different branding, I'm surprised you managed to get them ranking at all.
If this is the case also the main sites should go down, for example streamate.com , livejasmin.com, cams.com, flirt4free.com etc. should be out of results because of the whitelabels they provided?

BareBacked 10-11-2013 11:45 AM
was bound to happen
1000 clones of the same site. What do you expect ?

BareBacked 10-11-2013 11:48 AM
Dont cry that is happened now . Smile you got away with it for so long

Profits of Doom 10-11-2013 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 19829509)
its time now, cam companies should allow whitelabels on dedicfated ips for few $$/month
I like that idea a lot and would happily pay it. I don't know if it's possible to incorporate, but I'd also like to see the option to place a sub folder on the white label with the ability to blog on it. So if the site is camwhitelabel.com, you can have camwhitelabel.com/blog to post unique content...

freecartoonporn 10-11-2013 05:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19831746)
I like that idea a lot and would happily pay it. I don't know if it's possible to incorporate, but I'd also like to see the option to place a sub folder on the white label with the ability to blog on it. So if the site is camwhitelabel.com, you can have camwhitelabel.com/blog to post unique content...
i use subdomains for that.

create
blog A record => your ip.

Profits of Doom 10-11-2013 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 19831782)
i use subdomains for that.

create
blog A record => your ip.
You're way better off with a sub folder, since a sub domain is seen as it's own separate site in Google...

anexsia 10-11-2013 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 19831817)
You're way better off with a sub folder, since a sub domain is seen as it's own separate site in Google...
Yeah my sub-domain blogs work great and are a good way to bring some major traffic to the main blog.


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