Russia and China sign gas contract worth half trillion dollars
 

Bye-bye cheap russian gas :mad:

Special thanks to clueless US foreign policy and dumb lazy Ukrainians. Slovakians hope it will be a very very very long and cold winter in Ukraine.

Actually, the gas contract had no pricing attached, and as such just carries on in the same vein as these talks have been going...which has been for the last 10 years!

So yes, a bilateral agreement was signed...but they failed to agree on a deal.

http://inserbia.info/today/wp-conten...-gas-europ.jpg
You are already paying a lot!

DONE deal - 30yrs , 38BCM/year -> http://rt.com/business/160068-china-russia-gas-deal/

It will be much more expensive. :( EU needs Russian gas but Russia no longer needs Europe as a customer after 2018

330 billions? Nice contract, and one big FUCK OFF to fucking stupid europe! I will burn woods next winter, but fuck ya its back to nature style

I think it is time to kiss big oil goodbye.

Just need 10 years of hard science and innovation. Tidal..geo thermal, even solar. Then electric cars can take over.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-of-talks.html

The chinese were in the front seat on negotiations but no doubt its this spying issue that enouraged the Chinese to push something through. Awful timing.....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...-xi-talks.html

Natural gas is used mostly for heating homes, not powering cars.

why, so they and the violence can illegally migrate to your country with weapons?

you're not thinking things through.

anyone using gas is a moron and retarded psychopath should seek help immediately.

You guys need to start thinking green.

that's the stupidest fucking gfy comment I've read in a while.

dollars? lol we wish

I'd say stupidest comment I've read anywhere in a while. It has to be a troll.

why? You guys are paying for gas while there are plenty of alternatives , cheaper ones. start being smart

I'm not paying for gas.

you talk out of your ass, make assumptions and tell others to start being smart?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you're on a roll.

Being from Canada you should be smarter then that, you still use gas or oil for your house heating?

So you are smart why are you bitching about, by the way i was referring to Europe leaders not gfy´s

http://rt.com/news/160464-ukraine-gazprom-europe-putin/

i'm not the one calling everyone who uses gas and/or oil retarded psychopathic morons, that would be you.

I am willing to guess that you are in no position to judge how smart I am.

"smarter then that". Seriously?

And of course I still use gas for my home heating. Just like 99% of the rest of urban Canadians. What the hell do you think I use? Pixie dust?

check my previous post.. don't get confused.

Probably makes good sense for them to. Was US foreign policy really a big factor in it?

these politicized go green gfy peeps crack me up. To think that by acting elite, pointing your finger at those you think are less than, calling them a few names will get them to go green?

think about how backwards that is. If you want people to NOT go green, ever, keep it up.

if you don't want to confuse people, then don't write confusing posts. sort out your own thoughts prior to burping them out for the rest of us to try and sort out.

Search for photovoltaic shingles, if you live in an apartment then forget about it.

American foreign policy:1orglaugh

Nah, Western-Ukrainians will go to Poland. They have something in common -> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrh...uro-2012_sport

Why US fracking companies are licking their lips over Ukraine -> http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ine?CMP=twt_gu

Money talks

Where can I get the solar hookup you are obviously using to power your computer :winkwink:

I wasn't making that up.

?There is a phenomenon which I would like to point out very seriously. There are a lot of illegal migrants in Ukraine.We can talk about thousands, who would be interested in crossing the Schengen border,? PM Fico said Friday at the GLOBSEC annual conference in the country?s capital.

"And we are getting more and more concerned that various groups organizing illegal crossing of the Slovak-Ukrainian border increasingly show their readiness to go into armed conflicts," he added.

In February, Jozef Danko, spokesman for the Slovak village of Vysne Nemecke on the border with Ukraine, told The Voice of Russia radio that the inflow of vehicles from Ukraine increased, the cars coming not only from the nearest locations bordering the village, but also from other parts of Ukraine."



that fracking article is the 2nd stupid fucking thing in this thread. It's a mishmash of shit the author dreamed up, with a smattering of bullshit trumpeted as fact.

this thread's a goldmine of ridiculous! classic gfy.

hey man, literally from the roof. solar shingles

what, exactly, do you believe the author dreamed up?

I notice they were able to organize facts behind their wild mishmash

are you able to organize some yourself?

That's bullshit.

For starters, in Ontario, I am not allowed to directly consume electricity generated by solar panels. I would have to sell it back into the grid.

Plus the unsubsidized cost of installing a solar roof is prohibitive and will not result in any savings over the life of the product.

Then there are performance issues. The doesn't always shine.

The whole FIT program in Ontario is one of the worst government boondoggles in the history of humanity. It is nothing but a huge subsidy program for the guilty feeling sheeple who believe all of the doom-and-gloom warm-monger and green bullshit.

In the end I would still be heating my house with natural gas so what the hell is the point?

you can read any of my posts in this thread and enjoy my well organized and thoughtfully written comments.

But to your question, I'll help you out since you missed it

1. from the article-

(she states right there she's dreaming up her diatribe)

(there is no temporary glut of fracked gas, that's completely made up.)

(I hope I don't need to explain this to you, _RIchard_)

conclusion: the article is fantasy. it's a what-if based on made up details.

Finally, the author, naomi klein is a career anti-global capitalist making her living from writing books criticizing global capitalism, her agenda is very clear.

ok lol.

8char

you should be saying "thanks" to me. I addressed your pointed comment about my being able to form some factual comments. I took the time to do that for you,


you're welcome.

:)

Here's something that should make the anti-fracking crowd at least a little uncomfortable:

Hollywood celebrities caught on hidden camera accepting money from "Middle Eastern oil interests"



It should but it probably won't.

You are 100% right about the micro fit program is pure nonsense.


Regarding prices they really came down a lot since 2010 and the income I get from selling the power is always more then my electric consumption so it pays back even if i don't like to the way it works with micro fit.

A few years ago I had to replace the entire roof and estimates for normal asphalt shingles were in the 17K ballpark and solar shingles 30k. so i opted for solar shingles so basically i only paid 13k for it.

We changed heating from gas to electricity and apart from December, January and February the power out is always more then power in.

Now in Algarve different story , paid 12 000 euros for it , Portuguese government gave 30% back and i keep what i need and sell only what i don't need.

Keep safe

IN Europe many cars are using LPG, but most important is that industry is using it. With price up, final products will be more expensive.

Russians are not idiots, they won't raise prices for EU, they just showed them where they can be listening to USA and that they have alternative to EU bullshit.

LOL, think green

My Harley gets 40 mpg, about the same as most Hybrids and it's a lot cooler and more fun to ride and I get to ride it in the diamond lane!!

took the time?

'(she states right there she's dreaming up her diatribe)'

thank you for stating how you dreamed up yours.

Huge contratc ..what might affect on the prices.

again, you challenged my view and asked me to reply, I did. You can either appreciate and respect that I took the time to answer you or you can take it as an opportunity to be a dick. either way is fine with me. nevertheless, I'm pointing out you asked for something and I delivered, you're welcome.

do you believe a request for clarification is a challenge?

i notice your response didn't clarify anything

so you wish for me to say thank you because you deigned to respond to my request for clarification? without actually clarifying anything?

dont try to disguise the fact that the only reason you ride on a motorcycle is that you don't fit in cars.

no, I'm saying you're opportunistic gfyer who simply looks for opportunities to try and gotcha others for absolutely no fucking reason.

is that what you feel i try to do? perhaps i was merely trying to find some form of.. substance.. to your empty statements regarding rather established and respected writers.

is there another part of my character you wish to attack, in what seems to be a desperate attempt to move the conversation away from your seemingly lack of willingness to actually clarify your statements?

i mean, proverbially stamping your foot isn't actually clarifying anything

nor is attacking me going to change that.

I haven't attacked you. Quite the contrary. I respectfully answered your loaded question and factually pointed out your opportunistic posting style.

dear sir!

you are.. politely attempting to convey your opinion on what you believe i am doing.. as way of showing me the errors of my ways?

i just wrote that, and even i cannot believe the level of euphemistic bullshit it involves.

right and what will exon, chevron, shell, bp, etc do? they will never let that happen, government officials are on their pay roll... funny how in europe/usa they want to come up with alternative energy and hurt Russia, but they don't realize a lot of countries in the west make a ton of money from oil/gas... let's take Canada, their whole economy is based on oil/gas, that idiot Harper needs to stfu

the funniest part of this is you obviously didn't even read the entire article, if you had, you'd see it's a weak attempt to show some nefarious plot to sell NG so the author could advance her agenda that it's wrong to sell NG due to methane and it distracts from her wish to switch to alternative fuels.

you called me out, _RIchard_. Not the other way around. I posted my comment on the article, you had an issue with my doing that and made a prissy comment. I've handled that respectfully and articulately.