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DVTimes 07-12-2014 02:57 AM

The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control
 
At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US, says whistleblower William Binney ? that's a 'totalitarian mentality'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...lation-control

DVTimes 07-12-2014 03:01 AM


seeandsee 07-12-2014 03:25 AM

jesus if they cover 80%, they can cover ALL so it already fucking total control, just asking now what will they do with it

sperbonzo 07-12-2014 04:59 AM

I can't believe that we actually agree on something... This is the apocalypse.





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Joshua G 07-12-2014 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20155819)
jesus if they cover 80%, they can cover ALL so it already fucking total control, just asking now what will they do with it

simple. you say the word "tea party" into your phone, you get audited.

:winkwink:

freecartoonporn 07-12-2014 09:51 AM

but but but its for our own safety.

WDF 07-12-2014 10:07 AM

Wait, you think this is something new???????

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 10:45 AM

80% is what they are telling you.
Guaranteed it's 100%.

body 07-12-2014 10:57 AM

:bigears <- thats a nsa smiley? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BFT3K 07-12-2014 11:02 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s#t=5321

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 20156091)
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All this feel-good new age garbage is just another deception, and another path to the NWO.
You've been duped.

body 07-12-2014 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156093)
All this feel-good new age garbage is just another deception, and another path to the NWO.
You've been duped.

So whats the plan to destroy the path to the NWO? :helpme

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by body (Post 20156096)
So whats the plan to destroy the path to the NWO? :helpme

You know what has to be done.
A pyramid supports itself on its basis
Remove the basis and the pyramid collapses.

body 07-12-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156100)
You know what has to be done.
A pyramid supports itself on its basis
Remove the basis and the pyramid collapses.

yes, but the base doesn't believe that there is something like the NWO..ok lately a lot of people "woke up" but most are afraid to talk about strange things happend on this planet... (I guess nsa is with us at this moment?) :helpme

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by body (Post 20156102)
yes, but the base doesn't believe that there is something like the NWO..ok lately a lot of people "woke up" but most are afraid to talk about strange things happend on this planet... (I guess nsa is with us at this moment?) :helpme

Continue the fight to wake the zombies up from their trance.
That is a huge part of "removing the basis".
At some point we will reach critical mass and turn this around.

TPTW (the powers that were) are in panic mode.
They were counting on Americans rolling over on gun control but it didn't work.
That's why we keep seeing all these relentless false flags with crisis actors.
Now they are moving to Plan B, and flooding the U.S. with destitute illegals in a Cloward Piven play. That will fail too. When Plan B fails, they will reset (collapse) the economy and pull out the EMP. That's their fail-safe move. But that won't work either. That's why I call them TPTW. They've already lost. It's just a matter of time now.

TPTW need America to be broken & subdued for the door to be opened to the NWO.
Every person you wake up is another brick removed from the pyramid.

RummyBoy 07-12-2014 11:46 AM

Lets face it, we're all SLAVES of the system.

Eventually, we will all be implanted with chips and our exact location anywhere in the world will be known by the government. They will then advance the process and control us and our thoughts. Then we will cease to be and will instead, start to operate :1orglaugh

BFT3K 07-12-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156093)
All this feel-good new age garbage is just another deception, and another path to the NWO.
You've been duped.

If you ever get around to actually watching this video, you'll realize why your comment is not valid at all.... at least as it pertains to the message of the movie.

I don't buy into all of the points in the movie myself by the way, but it is very well produced, and parts are certainly thought-provoking. :2 cents:

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 20156125)
If you ever get around to actually watching this video, you'll realize why your comment is not valid at all.... at least as it pertains to the message of the movie.

I don't buy into all of the points in the movie myself by the way, but it is very well produced, and parts are certainly thought-provoking. :2 cents:

I have watched it. Years ago.

1. It is possible for someone with a family history of that sort to go against the grain. There are many cases where people open up to the truth and expose others about the lies and illusions they are casting on the rest of the world because it is the right thing to do, regardless if you are family or not.

2. They're using reverse psychology to make us think that they are against the elite.

So when are you building your torus machine? Free energy man, build the machines already.

What? They didn't tell you how to do it?
But this is the best thing since sliced bread yet they refuse to tell you how to build the torus machine?

The presenter comes of like any televangelist, same shit eating grin same hypnotic style of background music, same "slick" cover.

It's really is just a pile of garbage.

Why don't they use their techniques to convince people to donate money to a decent charity or make a prize fund to cure cancer. Instead of spending money on this absolute garbage. They are making the world stupider because there are people that actually believe this stuff. I don't have much hope for the future if these things consistently go viral. We seem to be hardwired to believe in something 'interesting' and 'subversive'. Why do we buy so many gossip magazines which lie about celebrities. Because we want to believe it, we are hardwired to believe it.

Here's the breakdown of this movie: the torus is the answer, pretty much the torus - free energy - torus - aliens - torus - cure cancer - torus.

Unfortunately, the movie doesn't give any technical details about how the torus gives us all this stuff -SO WHY DONT THEY PUBLISH IT OR MAKE THE DEVICE?! - put the free energy machine design specs on the torrent sites. Or email the specs to universities. Build a demo and run your house on it. Invite the local news. They can get enormous publicity about this crappy movie, get publicity about them actually solving the problems they talk about and if there's anything to it, people will notice. The answer is called the Internet, use it.

They are scammers preying on idiots.

BFT3K 07-12-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156146)
I have watched it. Years ago.

1. It is possible for someone with a family history of that sort to go against the grain. There are many cases where people open up to the truth and expose others about the lies and illusions they are casting on the rest of the world because it is the right thing to do, regardless if you are family or not.

2. They're using reverse psychology to make us think that they are against the elite.

So when are you building your torus machine? Free energy man, build the machines already.

What? They didn't tell you how to do it?
But this is the best thing since sliced bread yet they refuse to tell you how to build the torus machine?

The presenter comes of like any televangelist, same shit eating grin same hypnotic style of background music, same "slick" cover.

It's really is just a pile of garbage.

Why don't they use their techniques to convince people to donate money to a decent charity or make a prize fund to cure cancer. Instead of spending money on this absolute garbage. They are making the world stupider because there are people that actually believe this stuff. I don't have much hope for the future if these things consistently go viral. We seem to be hardwired to believe in something 'interesting' and 'subversive'. Why do we buy so many gossip magazines which lie about celebrities. Because we want to believe it, we are hardwired to believe it.

Here's the breakdown of this movie: the torus is the answer, pretty much the torus - free energy - torus - aliens - torus - cure cancer - torus.

Unfortunately, the movie doesn't give any technical details about how the torus gives us all this stuff -SO WHY DONT THEY PUBLISH IT OR MAKE THE DEVICE?! - put the free energy machine design specs on the torrent sites. Or email the specs to universities. Build a demo and run your house on it. Invite the local news. They can get enormous publicity about this crappy movie, get publicity about them actually solving the problems they talk about and if there's anything to it, people will notice. The answer is called the Internet, use it.

They are scammers preying on idiots.

First off, the movie is free to watch, so I don't feel "scammed" about anything.

Secondly, you are harping upon only one of maybe 20 or 30 topics they cover - rightly or wrongly.

And in addition, it is entertaining. No one is saying this is THE ANSWER to anything. I liken it to watching an episode of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel, without the self-identified Ancient Astronaut Theorists.

To me, it is thought provoking, and interesting. I find the TV show Person of Interest very interesting too, with many common threads of today's big-brothery world.

I'm not arguing anything in particular here. The topic is about the NSA, and the idea of a New World Order is covered in this movie/video, so I added it to the post.

I'm not selling or preaching anything, but the flick is well produced, and interesting (to me), so like it or not - watch it or not.

Whatever. :)

BFT3K 07-12-2014 12:41 PM

Maher Blasts ‘Useless Obama Hacks without a Shred of Intellectual Honesty’


http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-...-Rodriquez.jpg

Bill Maher went after the left over NSA spying on Friday night; specifically, liberals who have refused to criticize surveillance under President Obama as opposed to, you know, when George Bush did it. Maher said, “If this was happening under Bush, liberals would be apoplectic. I’m sorry, but liberals are just sometimes useless Obama hacks without a shred of intellectual honesty.”

Story continues here, with a video clip...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-bla...ctual-honesty/

crockett 07-12-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 20156176)
Maher Blasts ?Useless Obama Hacks without a Shred of Intellectual Honesty?


http://www.popularresistance.org/wp-...-Rodriquez.jpg

Bill Maher went after the left over NSA spying on Friday night; specifically, liberals who have refused to criticize surveillance under President Obama as opposed to, you know, when George Bush did it. Maher said, ?If this was happening under Bush, liberals would be apoplectic. I?m sorry, but liberals are just sometimes useless Obama hacks without a shred of intellectual honesty.?

Story continues here, with a video clip...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-bla...ctual-honesty/

This is the problem with power it corrupts. This is why so many argued against Bush's massive invasion Into our privacy with the patriot act and the NSA spying. You allow this stuff to happen because you are ok with the guy you have right now, but guess what the next guy and the next guy gets that same power. Never do they willingly give it up.

The NSA spying is just like the war on drugs they start the ball rolling and lots of federal dollars start pouring in and suddenly there are new jobs in this senators state or that one which will be taken away if they vote to stop it.

This is the same reason that Boing operates in all 50 states, because by doing that, they have leverage with the state representatives due to being a big employer and it means it's very unlikely that any congressman will vote against spending bills related to Boing. The NSA is the same concept, the giant machine has started so now trying to kill it, hurts the congressmen in their own states, because you can bet your ass just about every state is getting federal funds that have something related to the NSA.

Black All Through 07-12-2014 01:28 PM

This is something that has been going on in the UK for years, I'm still here, just like I was before they started all this control shit. I have nothing to hide, check out all my shit, like I give a fuck.

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black All Through (Post 20156227)
This is something that has been going on in the UK for years, I'm still here, just like I was before they started all this control shit. I have nothing to hide, check out all my shit, like I give a fuck.

Everyone has something to hide.
If you have nothing to hide, then post your bank account, username & password, right here, right now.

Also, when they know everything about you, it is much easier to game you.
At any time some bullshit can be manufactured against you, shit planted in your home, in your car, or on your computer, or your history falsified, and *poof*... there goes your life inside the cartoon distortion bubble, exchanged for a life in a cell.

Stop being an ignorant buffoon. Privacy is a good thing idiot.

Amputate Your Head 07-12-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 20156167)
I find the TV show Person of Interest very interesting too, with many common threads of today's big-brothery world.

'Person of Interest' is a psyop. Listen to the intro.

"You are being watched."
"The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day."
"I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people, people like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant." They wouldn't act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret.
"You'll never find us, but victim or perpetrator, if your number's up... we'll find you."

This is the truth. This is the NSA. But this show twists and distorts it, and presents it to the viewer selling it as a GOOD thing to be under total surveillance.

This is the message conveyed: We're here to help you! It's for your safety and security. It's in your best interest that we monitor you.

Yes, it is an interesting show, as long as you view it knowing it's propaganda to sell you on accepting the police state.

BFT3K 07-12-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156093)
All this feel-good new age garbage is just another deception, and another path to the NWO.
You've been duped.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA9A5WnT0rM

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TidalWave 07-12-2014 08:01 PM

I'm glad I've already decided to move out of the USA in 1-2 years.
Wish I had EU citizenship like my sister's though.

RummyBoy 07-13-2014 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156248)
your history falsified, and *poof*... there goes your life inside the cartoon distortion bubble, exchanged for a life in a cell.

Stop being an ignorant buffoon. Privacy is a good thing idiot.

There's only three types:

(1) The ignorant buffoon's like him, who don't give a shit and will have their cartoon distortion bubble popped and who probably speaks with a voice like Forrest Gump and who would probably say the same thing even if they were locked up on a false charge with their entire history falsified.

(2) The regular people who are basically indoctrinated by the mass media into believing that they live a wonderful life and who actively listen to the megaphone that tells them daily that their life is wonderful like the millions in North Korea who are convinced that it is.

(3) The intelligent minority who either want to leave or who are actively engaged in the process of getting THE HELL OUT.

Due 07-13-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 20155819)
jesus if they cover 80%, they can cover ALL so it already fucking total control, just asking now what will they do with it

They may monitor and log everything but I don't think they actually look at it until you trigger some alarms in their systems.
Looking at how the government handled building a website (healthcare) I highly doubt they are successfully analyzing all the data they are collecting. I'm pretty sure that project ended up being extremely expensive since it's designed to help profiling everyone that goes to the doctor

ilnjscb 07-13-2014 11:34 AM

You have nothing to hide until I decide randomly to make something you think a crime, and then you will have something to hide. Then I can have all your stuff, your labor, your life, your kids, and when I torture you for having those bad thoughts you will beg me to lobotomize you.

Sound like fun? Keep using that stupid argument. Crimes and penalties EVOLVE and they do so in accordance with the wishes of whoever is in power. The fact that you have "nothing to hide" today may not be true tomorrow.

ilnjscb 07-13-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20155872)
I can't believe that we actually agree on something... This is the apocalypse.





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You beat me to it

sperbonzo 07-13-2014 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20156862)
You have nothing to hide until I decide randomly to make something you think a crime, and then you will have something to hide. Then I can have all your stuff, your labor, your life, your kids, and when I torture you for having those bad thoughts you will beg me to lobotomize you.

Sound like fun? Keep using that stupid argument. Crimes and penalties EVOLVE and they do so in accordance with the wishes of whoever is in power. The fact that you have "nothing to hide" today may not be true tomorrow.

Hell, not only that, but with the massive influx of tens of thousands of new federal laws being enacted each year, on average every person in the US breaks 3 federal laws PER DAY. It's just a matter of when they decide to enforce them on you. If your political views are not approved by whatever administration is in power, they may just decide to enforce against YOU.




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Matt 26z 07-13-2014 07:50 PM

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RummyBoy 07-13-2014 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20157284)
It's just a matter of when they decide to enforce them on you. If your political views are not approved by whatever administration is in power, they may just decide to enforce against YOU.

This is really well said. It's exactly what is happening in UK and across Europe right now......... Governments are not there to help, they are there to keep themselves in power and they can be your worst enemy.

DAMNMAN 07-14-2014 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 20156100)
You know what has to be done.
A pyramid supports itself on its basis
Remove the basis and the pyramid collapses.

Ummmmmm pyramids have the best base of any man made buildings. You cannot remove the base of a pyramid without removing upper layers first. Tha's why they are still standing. Just sayin'!!!


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