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brassmonkey 11-13-2014 11:07 AM

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Ukraine: Security deteriorating in rebel-held east
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) ? Ukraine warned Thursday that the security situation is steadily worsening in the country's rebel-held east as separatist fighters move closer to government forces. One official said he feared an attack soon by Russian forces.
A cease-fire agreed upon in September between the pro-Russian rebels and Ukraine's government in Kiev has been violated daily, especially around areas coveted by both sides like the airport in the eastern city of Donetsk.

National Security and Defense Council spokesman Andriy Lysenko said the Russian army is massing troops, including air defense units, near the border. Ukraine for months has accused Russia of directly supplying the separatist forces.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich denied the Ukrainian charge.

"There have been and are no military movements across the border or, all the more, any presence of our troops in the southeast of Ukraine," he said Thursday in Moscow.

Ukraine's warnings of possible renewed hostilities follow multiple recent observations of large military convoys on the move around the country's eastern separatist-controlled areas. Trucks transporting troops, ammunition, fuel and large-caliber artillery systems have been seen traveling primarily in the direction of Donetsk, the main rebel-held city.


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jaYMan 11-13-2014 11:19 AM

Falling oil prices & economic sanctions FTL ;/

Rochard 11-13-2014 01:49 PM

This has been going on for some time and Ukraine seems to be helpless to stop it.

I fail to see what is going on here. Why does Russia want to take "parts of Ukraine" but not all of it - or does Putin plan on swallowing the entire country?

brassmonkey 11-13-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20288637)
This has been going on for some time and Ukraine seems to be helpless to stop it.

I fail to see what is going on here. Why does Russia want to take "parts of Ukraine" but not all of it - or does Putin plan on swallowing the entire country?

not sure if russia built them in the 80's the east of ukraine has weapons manufactures.

aka123 11-13-2014 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20288637)
This has been going on for some time and Ukraine seems to be helpless to stop it.

I fail to see what is going on here. Why does Russia want to take "parts of Ukraine" but not all of it - or does Putin plan on swallowing the entire country?

It's politically much easier to take just a part of country. Ask Adolf is you don't believe (etc. Sudetenland). "Hey, just a little bit, pleaaase (showing puppy eyes)."

aka123 11-13-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 20288651)
not sure if russia built them in the 80's the east of ukraine has weapons manufactures.

The factories were there already in WW2.. well, some factories. There were significant factories and those were one of the German's main objectives.

JFK 11-13-2014 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20288637)
This has been going on for some time and Ukraine seems to be helpless to stop it.

I fail to see what is going on here. Why does Russia want to take "parts of Ukraine" but not all of it - or does Putin plan on swallowing the entire country?

one bite at a time :2 cents:


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