whens the last time a protest forced change?
 

lots of protests. theres black people count, je suis charlie, we are newtown, occupywallstreet.

what changed? more republicans, who dont change anything but abortion rights, won office. some states actually loosened their gun laws over newtown. wall street just won a big de-regulation in the latest budget bill. & cop unions are less than contrite about their needless killing of black suspects.

the davos crowd just sits back & :1orglaugh

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Nothing changes.

When I was a kid in high school, a lot of my friends were into protesting and trying to make change happen. They wanted to save the world, save the whales, save the dolphins, and most importantly stop research on nuclear activity. I didn't take part myself because frankly at the time I could have cared less about dolphins or whales. Nearly thirty years later it seems to me we still have whales, still have dolphins; We still have nuclear bombs and research and the world is still here. I'm glad I didn't waste my time.

The occupy movement was the worst. Obviously we shouldn't punish those who have worked forty years plus and climbed to the top of their chosen job field. If we failed to reward people with financial gain, we wouldn't have one tenth of what we have now. Without financial gain we would be all communists, and clearly that hasn't worked out too well.

Protest all you want. With the exception of civil rights and more rights for women, nothing really has changed.

errrrrm Suffragettes possibly?

it's well documented and proven that communism doesn't work yet for some reason white apologist and losers always think they should have something for nothing...like money dropped from the sky and the 1% stole before the losers could get their hands on it :2 cents:

not in "free speech zone" america, but in other parts of the world it does cause change.

I was thinking the same thing.

This might be because we honestly have it pretty good.

good answer! HDTV, ben & jerrys, & kind buds have made doing nothing soooo good.

:thumbsup

Weren't you on welfare at one point? How'd that work out for you?

Most protests result in only short term changes. The Magna Carta, The American Revolution and the Chinese Communist Revolution (so far) have made lasting changes.

Other than that: Most protest effected changes are just a flash in the pan.

Ask the French Aristocracy if protests work or not
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I look back on the Sixties and early Seventies, when there were protests everywhere about everything, and yet nothing changed. The War In Vietnam? That ended in 1975 after years and years, the protests didn't stop the war (tho the Baby Boomers thought they actually accomplished something there LOL).

I think of Richard Nixon, how HATED he was back then. A dark, sweaty, twitchy, paranoid figure, the very essence of an evil looking dude. What happened in 1972, after scandals and years of protest? He won in a LANDSLIDE.

Years of Republican dirty tricks, wars, monetary manipulation, societal manipulation, etc etc....and what happened? Ronald Reagan comes swooping in FOUR YEARS after all those nasty Republicans everyone was protesting over.

Money wins, everything else loses. Move along.

It always is as it is. Be like water my friend, as Bruce lee puts it.

It's been decades.

Every protest you ever heard of worked just fine.

Protest are used to increase public awareness of something.
Change only comes with the people who are now aware actually do something.

Nobody expects to cure cancer when they protest; they hope to increase awareness so
that more people who can help will get involved.

Last time something changed : 2015/01/16

Records: Colorado officer charged with murder in on-duty killing shot man in back at his home | Fox News

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that's a perfect example of why nothing current will be effective--nobody is starving...

labor laws, unions, civil rights but yeah protestors are pretty much ignored these days. that shouldn't stop people from voicing their opinions and making them heard in ways that get in the media, such as protests.

http://cdn1.independent.ie/incoming/...T%20Porn_3.jpg
A pair of protesters hold a banner outside the Houses of Parliament in London in protest against changes to pornography regulations after the Government said a list of sex acts has been banned from online porn videos filmed in the UK, in a bid to crack down on "harmful" content

so they FORCED the change ? I don't think so, women were cheaper to hire, so they had to work to help some people to make more money....

protests or revolutions ?

nothing to do with working, it was all about the women's right to vote!

Are there seriously people in this thread whining about free speech and suggesting it is useless?

solidarity.

Exactly.

Social change comes about in the long run. Pushing awareness of an issue is a long-term thing, and is typically helped along by many groups over the course of many years.

When it comes to protests that worked, Stonewall pretty much launched the gay/lesbian protest movement, which has resulted in a lot of change over the years.

Self determination achieved

The wife and I started a protest - which resulted in change.

They create an illusion of change. Most modern protests are sponsored in some way.

Worked for Nam

You really can't be this oblivious to the world around you can you?

Those protest about Dolphins that went on when you were in High School, was because of a very well circulated video where it was shown to the world that fishermen were routinely killing Dolphins in mass by hacking them to pieces or beating them with clubs and tossing them back in the water while catching various fish, mostly tuna..

Those protest that you seem to think did nothing because "we still have Dolphins".. are the reason when you look at a can of tuna, it now says "Dolphin Safe". Why is that? Because those silly kids whom protested. forced the big fishing companies to create better fishing standards which avoided needless killing of other fish like umm those Dolphin that we still seem to have in our oceans..

Those save the whale protest which you think were silly and meaningless also had the affect of getting "most" countries to outright ban the hunting of endangered whales.. It's only a handful of countries mainly Japan whom still hold out as well as many native populations around the world. Large scale whale hunting no longer happens though other than as I mentioned Japan.. So yes those protest which you think did nothing actually changed things which you seem very unaware of.

Also your location says "NORCAL" I bet you just assume because there are still Redwood trees in your state it's just because they are still growing.. Not that umm yea there were silly protesters and tree-huggers that fought against the logging companies whom were trying to cut every last one down..

I have my doubts that he is a native. :2 cents:

Massive continued protests around the nation, over years, forced a change in many laws regarding marriage equality, so much so that now the supreme court will determine this summer if same sex marriage should be legal nationally, instead of just in 37 states.

Considering Germany is reunited and i live in a former warsaw pact country i would say yes

yes good answer

or they wanted to be convinced :2 cents:

Yes.

Critical thinking is not a prerequisite for obtaining a GFY login. :2 cents:

i am wondering when free assembly resulted in change. I read history books, & protest movements used to result in huge changes, eventually. Labor laws, voting rights, & basic human rights were gained. India was freed from the british empire.

however in my lifetime, i am not seeing protests lead to any meaningful social reform similar to the civil rights movement.

seems no longer possible to maintain large groups of support for social change over the period of years necessary to work. there were protests about cops in 1999 over amadu diallo. what changed 15 years & eric garner later? there were protests about gun laws after columbine. what changed 15 years & newtown later?

nothing whining about these questions. do the movements have unachievable goals, or is the instant gratification created by tech & 24/7 media to blame? we have a lot more information today but a lot less change. is that not odd? Should not change increase with the freedom of information?

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Nor having any money :( You can literally spot the indian paypal scammers here operating right out in the open. Also, what you said

was that due to protests or due to old people dying & young people having different ideas? the same thing is happening with pot.

what is making gay marriage protests work, legalize pot rallies work, but not social changes regarding race guns or inequality?

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fair enough.

i remember november 9, 1989 well. I got my drivers license on the same day the berlin wall fell.

:)

ok. between you & squitits & madaltons post, i can see that there are protests & meaningful change from said protests.

i appreciate your contributions to the discussion. i suppose my eyes are focused on the protests where it seems nothing moves.

:)

Liberation for all

So how did those young people get those new ideas all at the same time?
Was it a great movie, a earth quake, a news report, their old teacher, a rap song or protest in the 60's.