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Vendot 06-12-2015 09:42 AM

George Soros Sees Third World War Coming
 
Soros sees risk of another world war - MarketWatch



Very interesting speech...... he sees one step towards avoiding war, is to include the Chinese RMB into the basket of currencies that make up the SDR. He might be anticipating the possibility that the USA will try to stop that happening.

CaptainHowdy 06-12-2015 09:59 AM

War = $$

Captain Kawaii 06-12-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 20496893)
Soros sees risk of another world war - MarketWatch



Very interesting speech...... he sees one step towards avoiding war, is to include the Chinese RMB into the basket of currencies that make up the SDR. He might be anticipating the possibility that the USA will try to stop that happening.

More or less it has already been stopped. The China Bank BS. People are flocking to an expanded offering by Japan, which US and many others back. China is a broken legged chair with 3 legs missing.

WW3 is coming. Just a matter of when. US needs BOMBS to BOOM. Never forget that.

sandman! 06-12-2015 10:07 AM

there will not be another world war

pornmasta 06-12-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20496913)
War = $$


crockett 06-12-2015 10:41 AM

The only WW3 that would ever happen is an all out nuclear war. No one wants that, so none of the major nuclear powers will ever try to invade one another. What will happen is what happens now.. Regional wars in third world countries. No one is gonna nuke each other over places like Syria, Ukraine and so on and it's still the same game of chess with the profits of war with out having to do much of the work..

Think about it.. If the U.S. For instance really wanted war with say Russia.. Why wouldn't we have invaded them post USSR break up? There was no real control over the former soviet countries many didn't like the others and it would of been a walk in the park at that time to take over for US and NATO forces..

Why would we wait all these years for Russia to rebuild and then fight them? Why would we intermingle our economy with China if we wanted war with them?

If it ever happens it won't be the U.S. That starts it..l

2MuchMark 06-12-2015 10:46 AM

I didn't bother watching the video, but is George Soros religious? If so, lots of religious people seem to really want WW3 and end of days crap because they think they will get an automatic passport to heaven.

wehateporn 06-12-2015 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20496971)
I didn't bother watching the video, but is George Soros religious? If so, lots of religious people seem to really want WW3 and end of days crap because they think they will get an automatic passport to heaven.

He grew up in a Jewish, anti-semitic home and is an atheist

Barry-xlovecam 06-12-2015 11:28 AM

What wars did the Chinese start in modern history?

More likely that China may enter a prolonged civil war. Basically, developing an internal consumer market will require political reforms. Right now, China is the worlds low cost labor factory and for a consumer market to develop there they will end up with a very economically divided society.

Posturing against China's inclusion in the TPP agreements is a mistake -- whether or not the TPP is enacted is immaterial to the hostility toward US and Asian relations with China. Kicking the biggest homie in the ass is not going to benefit trade or political relations :2 cents:

Captain Kawaii 06-12-2015 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20497004)
What wars did the Chinese start in modern history?

More likely that China may enter a prolonged civil war. Basically, developing an internal consumer market will require political reforms. Right now, China is the worlds low cost labor factory and for a consumer market to develop there they will end up with a very economically divided society.

Posturing against China's inclusion in the TPP agreements is a mistake -- whether or not the TPP is enacted is immaterial to the hostility toward US and Asian relations with China. Kicking the biggest homie in the ass is not going to benefit trade or political relations :2 cents:

To alleviate internal issues the Chinese push the outside world. Next war won't be nuclear but more like, stuxnet children and EMP.
Funny, Chinese always lose at war. Closest friends China has are Russia and NK. Does not inspire confidence.

Rochard 06-12-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20496963)
The only WW3 that would ever happen is an all out nuclear war. No one wants that, so none of the major nuclear powers will ever try to invade one another. What will happen is what happens now.. Regional wars in third world countries. No one is gonna nuke each other over places like Syria, Ukraine and so on and it's still the same game of chess with the profits of war with out having to do much of the work..

Think about it.. If the U.S. For instance really wanted war with say Russia.. Why wouldn't we have invaded them post USSR break up? There was no real control over the former soviet countries many didn't like the others and it would of been a walk in the park at that time to take over for US and NATO forces..

Why would we wait all these years for Russia to rebuild and then fight them? Why would we intermingle our economy with China if we wanted war with them?

If it ever happens it won't be the U.S. That starts it..l

Maybe sort of not really.

Russia wanted partial control of those countries for a "buffer zone from the west" being as "the west" (being defined as "Nazi Germany") over ran them and nearly made it all the way to Moscow. No country suffered greater than the Soviet Union did.

Could the US had over run all of those countries and attacked Russia during the cold war? Maybe. But if you look at the past history of the Soviet Union and how they pretty much fought back Nazi Germany on their own.... Makes any country think twice about attacking them.

At a certain point some countries are just too freaking big.... United States, Russia, and China. You can attack any country, but with the big three there is thousands of miles from border to border - that's way too much cannon fodder. This is one of the ways the Soviet Union was able to beat back the Nazis - The picked their industries and moved them across the country where the Germans couldn't get them.

Rochard 06-12-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20497007)
To alleviate internal issues the Chinese push the outside world. Next war won't be nuclear but more like, stuxnet children and EMP.

That's a scary thought.... A virus that shuts down all computers and or am EMP strike would crippling. Think about it - No computers, NO NOTHING. No power, eventually your water shuts down, no food because stores cannot order anything.....

It's just like the Loma Prieta earthquake in 1989 - No power for three days. You say "Big Deal" but.... What do you eat? Everything in your fridge goes bad in 24, so that leaves you with canned goods.... You have enough canned good to last your family three days? (I do.)

CDSmith 06-12-2015 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20496917)
there will not be another world war

https://wadevenden.files.wordpress.c...ad_in_sand.jpg

brassmonkey 06-12-2015 02:11 PM

i have about 100 years of spam :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 06-12-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20496963)
Think about it.. If the U.S. For instance really wanted war with say Russia.. Why wouldn't we have invaded them post USSR break up? There was no real control over the former soviet countries many didn't like the others and it would of been a walk in the park at that time to take over for US and NATO forces..

Why would we wait all these years for Russia to rebuild and then fight them? Why would we intermingle our economy with China if we wanted war with them?

If it ever happens it won't be the U.S. That starts it..l

well for one they had 50KT nuclear weapons and submarines and 200+ nuclear suit cases and lots and lots of bacteria and chemical and what not...

now carry on and be amusing about what a "walk in the park" it would have been for US and Nato :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and also americans have thin thin skin...you have never been in any real war only 3rd world defenceless shit holes...you guys are like north korea the brainwash is so strong you really think you have a chance with russia :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

at best you would turn each other to crystal :1orglaugh

crockett 06-12-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497100)
well for one they had 50KT nuclear weapons and submarines and 200+ nuclear suit cases and lots and lots of bacteria and chemical and what not...

now carry on and be amusing about what a "walk in the park" it would have been for US and Nato :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

and also americans have thin thin skin...you have never been in any real war only 3rd world defenceless shit holes...you guys are like north korea the brainwash is so strong you really think you have a chance with russia :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

at best you would turn each other to crystal :1orglaugh

There was no one in charge, people were selling off the military weapons to the highest bidder. Shit they tried to sell a fucking submarine to a gun dealer. (the movie Lord of War was actually based off that guy) Russia was a fucking weapons bazaar to the highest bidder. The entire Russian Navy was rusting away in dockyards. Much of it still is to this day.

It would be amazing if none of those nuclear suitcases made it to the hands of anyone bad. Honestly I'd almost bet a few have..

The point being there was no functioning military and barely any govt. If the US and Nato wanted to they could of taken most of the ex soviet block including Russia.. This is why the stupid Putin scare tactics & propaganda is so stupid. If we wanted to take you guys out, we could have very easily done it at that time.

pimpmaster9000 06-12-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20497269)
There was no one in charge, people were selling off the military weapons to the highest bidder. Shit they tried to sell a fucking submarine to a gun dealer. (the movie Lord of War was actually based off that guy) Russia was a fucking weapons bazaar to the highest bidder. The entire Russian Navy was rusting away in dockyards. Much of it still is to this day.

It would be amazing if none of those nuclear suitcases made it to the hands of anyone bad. Honestly I'd almost bet a few have..

The point being there was no functioning military and barely any govt. If the US and Nato wanted to they could of taken most of the ex soviet block including Russia.. This is why the stupid Putin scare tactics & propaganda is so stupid. If we wanted to take you guys out, we could have very easily done it at that time.

you really believe russia is militarily weak don't you? :1orglaugh I mean I believe you that you believe LOL...as for corruption within the russian army, thats a bit rich coming from a guy whos military charges like 400$/hammer and whos government is the number one arms dealer on the planet...does the USAs long history of supplying weapons to terrorists not, somehow, put you in the same "nobody is in charge" category? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

go hug a bacon for security but your american need to believe that russia has a weak military in order to have a false sense of security is very amusing LOL

dindu, the USA has no sort of monopoly over technology whatsoever, ruskies beat you to space :2 cents: snap out of the brain wash for a second and try to accept that the USA is nothing special...dindu propaganda is dindu propaganda...get real here...

heres what the USA and NATO would need to attack russia: lots and lots of adult diapers because you would shit yourselves so much, adult diapers would be the number one business in the world...literally 90% of man kind would be producing adult diapers because the thin thin skin americans would shit their pants so much that the dependence on adult diapers would deplete all the natural resources in nature and a second business would emerge: recycling diapers :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

americans would do nothing but shit themselves constantly and buy more diapers :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

RummyBoy 06-13-2015 03:01 AM





you can see how this can easily flare up....

MiamiBoyz 06-13-2015 03:32 AM


just a punk 06-13-2015 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497081)
Russia wanted partial control of those countries for a "buffer zone from the west" being as "the west" (being defined as "Nazi Germany") over ran them and nearly made it all the way to Moscow. No country suffered greater than the Soviet Union did.

Could the US had over run all of those countries and attacked Russia during the cold war? Maybe. But if you look at the past history of the Soviet Union and how they pretty much fought back Nazi Germany on their own.... Makes any country think twice about attacking them.

Yep. Nazis took the whole Europe and almost reached Moscow. They were stopped in about 40 kilometers to Moscow borders.

Napoleon took Kremlin in 1812.

http://img.gazeta.ru/files3/977/4800...x340-85710.jpg

But that story has ended up with Kozaks in Paris.

http://iks2010.org/wp-content/upload...akiv_Parig.gif

The same story happened to Poland in 1612 etc. Even Mongols that conquered almost the whole Euro Asia and ancient Russia were defeated and assimilated here. Anybody here knows anything about Mongolia (which is a very big country actually) nowadays? Yep, nobody knows and nobody cares anymore :)

This small video sums it up pretty well:


just a punk 06-13-2015 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497100)
well for one they had 50KT nuclear weapons and submarines and 200+ nuclear suit cases and lots and lots of bacteria and chemical and what not...

I'll fix you here. Not just 50KT, but also 50MT ones. It was tested only once, but the technology was proven and nobody knows how many of these can be produced and waiting for their time in bunkers somewhere in Siberia...

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20496963)
Think about it.. If the U.S. For instance really wanted war with say Russia.. Why wouldn't we have invaded them post USSR break up? There was no real control over the former soviet countries many didn't like the others and it would of been a walk in the park at that time to take over for US and NATO forces..

I know you are very stupid but I didn't know you are stupid so much. First of all, in 1990's Russia has much more control over former Soviet republics than it has today. Also it has much more nukes than today. Your "walk in the park" would ended up like this:

http://www.gradremstroy.ru//wp-conte...owntown-dc.jpg

http://f2.s.qip.ru/5ovlJItK.jpg

And those are just pictures. I believe the reality would be much worse. There would be no half-destroyed Capitol, but just a glass field instead of Washington + massive firestorms on a whole your continent (yep, Canada and Mexico would be burnt out as well).

Here is a videos from 1991 (worst times for Russia).



That's a launch of 16 (fuckin' sixteen!) intercontinental nuclear missiles from one submarine. This one would be enough to bury your whole west coast, for example. Think about it.

A park walker, my ass.

charlie g 06-13-2015 04:34 AM

you russians are a funny lot. lots of pride and chest thumping....you and the americans make a good pair....reading these boards is like watching a good wwf, lots of smack talk...hahahahahah

cyberceo, moscow would be more glas than washington---FACT!!!

heheh, JK... how about replying to the thread on the help forums with the xhamster/novavideo:upsidedow

just a punk 06-13-2015 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 20497439)
heheh, JK... how about replying to the thread on the help forums with the xhamster/novavideo:upsidedow

As it's written in a special thread on the same board. I do custom coding for money (about $10-$15 for a parser according to your personal specs). I have thousands of customers, thus I can't do custom coding for free anymore.

My email is: cyberseo@cyberseo.net

Thanks for understanding.

klinton 06-13-2015 06:55 AM

sure :1orglaugh
it would be walk in park, just like Hitler and Napoleon walked....
the only country that succesfully "captured the flag" in Moscow was Poland, but it was 400 years ago and just for some time...until Russian sobered up and throw them away :winkwink:
Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20496963)
If the U.S. For instance really wanted war with say Russia.. Why wouldn't we have invaded them post USSR break up? There was no real control over the former soviet countries many didn't like the others and it would of been a walk in the park at that time to take over for US and NATO forces..l


just a punk 06-13-2015 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20497483)
the only country that succesfully "captured the flag" in Moscow was Poland, but it was 400 years ago and just for some time...until Russian sobered up and throw them away :winkwink:

Correct.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...jpg?uselang=ru

As about video that I've posted above, watch it from 3:07 (https://youtu.be/9G7LLWbsFwo?t=187). Even a brainwashed idiot must be scarred of it. Personally I'm scarred watching it. The only time on this planet when a single submarine launches 16 multi-head nuke missiles almost at the same time (a few seconds between every launch). And it was done in 1991 - when Russia separated from the USSR. Only a complete imbecile like crockett could post something about "a walk in the park" for NATO in those times...

RSD 06-13-2015 11:51 AM

History repeats

pimpmaster9000 06-13-2015 12:17 PM

'mericans believe in 'merica its useless trying to point out to them that they have no monopoly over technology whatsoever, they will counter with some example of some american tech thats like 5% faster and 10000000x more expensive and claim "its the best in the world" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

to be a 'merican you must never step out of the dream bubble in to reality :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

even if WMD did not exist russia would win by a land slide because 1.000.000 dead soldiers and hardship and life on hard mode is just normal in russia but 'mericans have thin thin skin...they have lots of fat under the thin skin, but the skin is very thin and translucent and its also very very soft...like pussy skin...only thinner :2 cents::2 cents:

just a punk 06-13-2015 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497610)
even if WMD did not exist russia would win by a land slide because 1.000.000 dead soldiers and hardship and life on hard mode is just normal in russia

We live in a very specific climate zone. Yes, Norway or Iceland know what cold is, but they didn't live in распутица. The same applies to almost any other country. We have the #1 biggest territory in a very extreme place of the world. Those have got it, but it was too late...

http://mtdata.ru/u26/photo7AE4/20782...0/original.jpg

http://ciwar.ru/wp-content/uploads/2...tstuplenie.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6447/...aefa2acc_L.jpg

http://www.off-road-drive.ru/fi/2/pi...Image_0004.jpg

http://smol1941.narod.ru/griaz2.JPG

http://smol1941.narod.ru/griaz1.jpg

http://otello.gorod.tomsk.ru/posts-files/72/591/i/9.jpg

http://s.fishki.net/upload/post/2013...f5dfad019e.jpg

http://waralbum.ru/wp-content/upload...844kwo.th.jpeg

http://rusplt.ru/netcat_files/userfiles/Moscow600.jpg

http://waralbum.ru/wp-content/comment-image/3533.jpg

http://www.istpravda.ru/upload/media...71f77e22c9.jpg

charlie g 06-13-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497610)
'mericans believe in 'merica its useless trying to point out to them that they have no monopoly over technology whatsoever, they will counter with some example of some american tech thats like 5% faster and 10000000x more expensive and claim "its the best in the world" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

to be a 'merican you must never step out of the dream bubble in to reality :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

even if WMD did not exist russia would win by a land slide because 1.000.000 dead soldiers and hardship and life on hard mode is just normal in russia but 'mericans have thin thin skin...they have lots of fat under the thin skin, but the skin is very thin and translucent and its also very very soft...like pussy skin...only thinner :2 cents::2 cents:

pffftttttt. America is taking care of that little weather problem. Not only did mr. al gore invent the internet, the guy invented global warming. Just wait a few more years and Russia will be similar to disney land. fucking americans are clever...dont underestimate.

pimpmaster9000 06-13-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20497617)
We live in a very specific climate zone. Yes, Norway or Iceland know what cold is, but they didn't live in распутица. The same applies to almost any other country. We have the #1 biggest territory in a very extreme place of the world. Those have got it, but it was too late...

the typical american has protection against the cold and is ergonomically suited to slither across most terrains, but they tire out quick and need to rest a lot :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh this is what an actual invasion would look like:


http://static.theglobeandmail.ca/a66...ale_walrus.jpg
http://www.wcs.org/news-and-features...kilev_0793.jpg

and they have very very thin skin you could just shoo them away :2 cents:

xXXtesy10 06-13-2015 03:16 PM


wehateporn 06-13-2015 03:18 PM

Soros will know exactly what's coming, he works for the man at the top

JD 06-13-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20497673)
Soros will know exactly what's coming, he works for the man at the top

Lensman?

crockett 06-13-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20497438)
I'll fix you here. Not just 50KT, but also 50MT ones. It was tested only once, but the technology was proven and nobody knows how many of these can be produced and waiting for their time in bunkers somewhere in Siberia...



I know you are very stupid but I didn't know you are stupid so much. First of all, in 1990's Russia has much more control over former Soviet republics than it has today. Also it has much more nukes than today. Your "walk in the park" would ended up like this:

http://www.gradremstroy.ru//wp-conte...owntown-dc.jpg

http://f2.s.qip.ru/5ovlJItK.jpg

And those are just pictures. I believe the reality would be much worse. There would be no half-destroyed Capitol, but just a glass field instead of Washington + massive firestorms on a whole your continent (yep, Canada and Mexico would be burnt out as well).

Here is a videos from 1991 (worst times for Russia).



That's a launch of 16 (fuckin' sixteen!) intercontinental nuclear missiles from one submarine. This one would be enough to bury your whole west coast, for example. Think about it.

A park walker, my ass.

Are you really this fucking stupid? I clearly said it would of been a walk in the park then, when the USSR first collapsed, not today. I clearly said if the US wanted to take out Russia we would of done it then..

Seriously put down the crack pipe and read for once in your life before you go full rage commie retard.

Rochard 06-13-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20497438)

I know you are very stupid but I didn't know you are stupid so much. First of all, in 1990's Russia has much more control over former Soviet republics than it has today. Also it has much more nukes than today. Your "walk in the park" would ended up like this:

Russia has lost a lot of ground since the 1990s; Most of the former Soviet Bloc countries no longer align themselves with Russia. East Germany no long exists, and Czechoslovakia has shed it's history with Russia and now calls itself the Czech Republic. Poland has obviously distanced itself, as has Hungary. Even Cuba no longer relies on Moscow for support, and is quickly trying to be friendly with the United States.

The Internet has shown the rest of the world how other countries live; In many ways the Internet has eliminated propaganda. This was most evident in Berlin after German reunification - The standards of living between West Berlin and East Berlin were staggering.

As far as military might.... Russia might have an endless amount of cannon fodder as they did in the 1940s. However, that was a long time ago and cannon fodder does not win war on it's own. Russia can barely get a single military ship and a support ship to Cuba, while the United States is operating in the deep waters of every ocean simultaneously and has been for decades.

Nuclear warfare is irrelevant at this point. It worked for the United States with Japan, but only because no other country had such technology and even if they did, they did not have the ability to deploy it against the United States. Russia could nuke Washington DC, but the United States would have the ability to instantly retaliate - Washington DC would be destroyed, but so would Moscow.

pimpmaster9000 06-13-2015 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497684)
Russia can barely get a single military ship and a support ship to Cuba, while the United States is operating in the deep waters of every ocean simultaneously and has been for decades..

yes yes LOL they can barely float, but in 91 they launched 16 warheads in 1 second from a sub...

the USA obviously has a monopoly on science and technology, except when the ruskies beat you to space and shit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dude the US navy is for pussy ass countries, you think they need a navy for your pussy ass fleet? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh dude one nuke will tsunami your navy to kingdom come, the 400 meter tsunami would wipe the entire coast of your country to texas :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dindu, the navy is just for show ok?...for 'mericans to feel safe...and for the US corporate government to make hella money...you have an i-military...lots of i-bullshit...

that russian nuke back in 61 sent shock waves 3 times around the entire planet...what do you think they have now? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

go hug a bacon, your navy is just a bunch of cannon fodder, them aircraft carriers and destroyers do not do too well under water LOL

Rochard 06-13-2015 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497702)
yes yes LOL they can barely float, but in 91 they launched 16 warheads in 1 second from a sub...

And?

Is that supposed to impressive - that they can launch warheads from a submarine? What is that, 1960s technology? Is that supposed to be impressive?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497702)
the USA obviously has a monopoly on science and technology, except when the ruskies beat you to space and shit :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Yet they've never been to the moon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497702)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh dude one nuke will tsunami your navy to kingdom come, the 400 meter tsunami would wipe the entire coast of your country to texas :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The US Navy has warships in every ocean AT THE SAME TIME. One nuke or one tsumami would not be able to destroy them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497702)
that russian nuke back in 61 sent shock waves 3 times around the entire planet...what do you think they have now? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

1961, seriously? That's older than Baddog.

What I do I think they have now? Less than they had then, that's for sure. And not in good condition for sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497702)
go hug a bacon, your navy is just a bunch of cannon fodder, them aircraft carriers and destroyers do not do too well under water LOL

How many aircraft carriers does Russia have? (Turns out Italy has more aircraft carriers than Russia does - and I had no idea Italy had air craft carriers.)

Rochard 06-13-2015 09:08 PM

I don't mean to offend anyone.... These talks about who is better makes me chuckle.

The GDP of Russia today is lower than what the GDP for the United States was in 1948. LOL.

http://b-i.forbesimg.com/markadomani...PerCapita1.png

source: Economically, Russia Is Roughly Where the United States Was In The 1950's

Mutt 06-13-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497280)
try to accept that the USA is nothing special...dindu propaganda is dindu propaganda...get real here...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

you're the only one who needs to get real here as you eke out a living, which by your own country's standards is probably envied, on the Internet which was developed by the US government and American corporations. your hate towards America is more transparent than cellophane, the definition of 'they hate us because they want to be us'

Mutt 06-13-2015 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20497617)
We live in a very specific climate zone. Yes, Norway or Iceland know what cold is, but they didn't live in распутица. The same applies to almost any other country. We have the #1 biggest territory in a very extreme place of the world. Those have got it, but it was too late...

http://mtdata.ru/u26/photo7AE4/20782...0/original.jpg

http://ciwar.ru/wp-content/uploads/2...tstuplenie.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6447/...aefa2acc_L.jpg

http://www.off-road-drive.ru/fi/2/pi...Image_0004.jpg

http://smol1941.narod.ru/griaz2.JPG

http://smol1941.narod.ru/griaz1.jpg

http://otello.gorod.tomsk.ru/posts-files/72/591/i/9.jpg

http://s.fishki.net/upload/post/2013...f5dfad019e.jpg

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And then there's this, the mighty Soviet empire invades tiny Finland and gets it ass handed to it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

Russia wins wars at the greatest human expense in human history - even against a small country like Finland Russia lost 126,875 lives, Finland lost 25,904

World War II - UK loses 450,000, France the same, the US loses 500,000 - and the Soviet Union? 27,000,000

Here's a quote by the greatest general in modern US military history, George S. Patton -

"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."

Anyhoo, I don't think humans have a century left on this planet, between nukes, EMP weapons, cyberterrorism, bioligical weapons and shit we can't imagine now, I don't see how the lid will be kept on all of them. My only question is when it happens, how many people will survive and what kind of hell that will be for them.

RummyBoy 06-13-2015 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20496916)
People are flocking to an expanded offering by Japan, which US and many others back.

They are? Which offering? I haven't heard about this.

It doesn't make any sense why the world would support a bank offered by Japan (one of the most indebted nations in the world with over 200% Debt to GDP ratio) and it doesn't look like AIIB has any competition apart from the obvious existing candidates (IMF etc).

pimpmaster9000 06-14-2015 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497798)
The US Navy has warships in every ocean AT THE SAME TIME. One nuke or one tsumami would not be able to destroy them.

so it would take 5-10 nukes to destroy you entire, ENTIRE, fleet...unless you have a way of taking them out of the water and keeping them safe somewhere in texas :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497798)
What I do I think they have now? Less than they had then, that's for sure. And not in good condition for sure.

for sure dawg, for sure! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh thats exactly how it works, back in the 60s they were more progressive than now...sounds legit :thumbsup, does not sound like you are very very very desperate at all with this argument :thumbsup they are so backwards they launch your shit to space :thumbsup

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497798)

How many aircraft carriers does Russia have? (Turns out Italy has more aircraft carriers than Russia does - and I had no idea Italy had air craft carriers.)

how many aircraft carriers did the USA have before a massive tsunami hit every single fucking ocean and sea in the world? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dude, aircraft carriers were good in the pre-nuke era...you really really really believe that russia would take shit from the USA? :1orglaugh

them aircraft carriers are for US people to feel safe, its just tons and tons of wasted money...they could detonate some shitty nuke, the smallest one they have, and they will still obliterate your entire fleet with it LOL

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497798)
The GDP of Russia today is lower than what the GDP for the United States was in 1948. LOL

yes yes you are doing so fine with your printed monopoly money that you have managed to accumulate a 16trillion debt = a true sign that you are doing baller :thumbsup:thumbsup

now lets not forget that in the US military a hammer is charged like 400$ :1orglaugh:1orglaugh in the russian military a hammer is 0.2$ :1orglaugh

oh and let me remind you how funny you are for mentioning the US floating duck fleet and some sort of asset, or something you think matters :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

just a punk 06-14-2015 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20497677)
Are you really this fucking stupid? I clearly said it would of been a walk in the park then, when the USSR first collapsed, not today.

Nope, here is the only stupid clown here is you. The USSR has collapsed in 1991 when Russia, Ukraine and Belorussia have decided to be independent (Беловежские Соглашения). The video of 16 intercontinental ballistic missile launch from a single submarine was also filmed in 1991. Once again for the stupid imbeciles: right after the collapse of USSR, Russia had 10x times more nukes than today and it was ready to use them against anyone. Most of our nukes were utilized in Putin's period. Educate yourself.

just a punk 06-14-2015 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497684)
As far as military might.... Russia might have an endless amount of cannon fodder as they did in the 1940s.

What do you mean? Our loses in WWII were not really big in comparison with Nazi Germany. The most of our loses were civilians. Learn the history already.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497684)
Russia can barely get a single military ship and a support ship to Cuba, while the United States is operating in the deep waters of every ocean simultaneously and has been for decades.

Your Navy is nothing. Do you know what a whole aircraft carrier group will be destroyed by only one missile like X-12C or 3М-45 (aka "П-700 Гранит")? The WWII times have gone and Russia will be using tactical nuke missiles against your ships. And only them. That's written in our war doctrine.

Your own war analysts say that a single antiship cruiser like Москва (project 1123) will be able to sink two US aircraft carrier groups. It's equipped with nuclear missiles of course.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497798)
Yet they've never been to the moon.

You've never been to Venus. So what? BTW, the USSR was the first country which successfully landed on the Moon. Yes, it was the USSR, not you. Here is something to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_9 :)

just a punk 06-14-2015 04:24 AM

One more remark about Soviet loses during WWII. The direct military loses were not real huge. Just as an example, only in Stalingrad Battle we lost 1,129,619 killed, while Nazi Germany lost 1,500,000 + about 91,000 captured. Not a real bad statistic, actually. So all those huge military losses is a myth.

Most of Soviet loses are civilians, because Germans were real animals:

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I don't understand their whining about rapes in Berlin. After all they did to our women and children here in Russia (just click it) they expected out soldiers to be kind with their own people?

just a punk 06-14-2015 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20497799)

Just another stupid bullshit for idiots. Why? I'll explain.

Counting of GDP is dollars is a joke. GDP is an internal (domestic) thing and must be calculated in national currencies only (Russia is not the USA and we do not print dollars like toilet paper). Also the ways of calculation are really funny. For example the UK and Italy add prostitution and drug-trafficking into their GDP (such a clever decision!) As about the USA, so I can easily show how its being calculated. Jack the redneck got a loan in some US bank (add this money to the US GDP), he bought a home (add this money to the US GDP), he paid taxes (add this money to the US GDP), his son joined the US army (add his salary to the US GDP) and been sent to Afghanistan (add the cost of the US Afghan company, weapon, bases etc to the US GDP). After a few months he was heroically killed there and send back to home in a coffin with stars and stripes (add the price of the coffin, transportation and funeral to the US GDP). A gravedigger was paid for it and paid his taxes as well (add this money to the US GDP). This is how GDP is being calculated So in fact, all those cosmic military expenses make your GDP higher and make your people poorer - there are no free medicine and education in the USA and a regular American lives for loans and credits (for example I have never took any credit/load in a whole my life). So forget about free medicine, free education etc and enjoy your huge GDP and national debt :)

RummyBoy 06-14-2015 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 20497890)
yes yes you are doing so fine with your printed monopoly money that you have managed to accumulate a 16trillion debt = a true sign that you are doing baller :thumbsup:thumbsup

Dude, get your facts right..... the US national debt is at least $18 trillion. However, if you include unfunded liabilities that will become due, the true figure is over $100 trillion USD. Incidently, I read somewhere recently that at least $6 trillion of national debt figure was debt created by all the US wars of the last 20 years.

pimpmaster9000 06-14-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20497928)
Dude, get your facts right..... the US national debt is at least $18 trillion. However, if you include unfunded liabilities that will become due, the true figure is over $100 trillion USD. Incidently, I read somewhere recently that at least $6 trillion of national debt figure was debt created by all the US wars of the last 20 years.

wow thats almost $800.000 per taxpayer...oh shit...common math says that you guys are in such deep shit :2 cents:


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