Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20703831)

evil republicans trying to poison their citizens

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20703876)

So you were trying to be sarcastic and you were right for the first time in your life.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703836)

It's an unbelievable tragedy there and to make it about the Republican mayor completely distracts from the event while also getting it wrong that the mayor has 100% authority in such matters .

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20703876)

So you were trying to be sarcastic and you were right for the first time in your life.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20703876)

So you were trying to be sarcastic and you were right for the first time in your life.

Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20703880)

I was pointing out a funny fact that Prince would not have included democrats if that happened in democrat city/state.
Then it would be just a tragedy without any party mentioned in his post.
He is funny like that and my post was directed specifically at this point.

And I am with dynamo on this one:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703901)

The need for gotchas around here.

Come on, That shit in flynt is indicative of local government spun totally out of control and an atrocious tragedy that the system let that shit fly for years.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703836)

It's an unbelievable tragedy there and to make it about the Republican mayor completely distracts from the event while also getting it wrong that the mayor has 100% authority in such matters .

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20703923)

It's not the mayor of flint so much as it is the governor of Michigan.

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 20703884)

What's a little lead anyway? Vitamins if you ask me.

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20703953)

Agreed...those people are simply spoiled!

In my day we drank our own piss and were glad to have it!

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703836)

It's an unbelievable tragedy there and to make it about the Republican mayor completely distracts from the event while also getting it wrong that the mayor has 100% authority in such matters .

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703940)

It's my understanding the entire water switch over passed all checks and balances up and down the system, environmentalists, laboratories, every component let it all happen. It's scary as mother fucking shit to think that shit was allowed to happen in the 21st century USA.

I think a local independent doctor there was the one that noticed, chronicled and revealed the lead in the children there. Otherwise this wouldn't have even been revealed.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703960)

And shame on Hillary for trying to make this a race thing at the debate last night!

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20703901)

The need for gotchas around here.

Come on, That shit in flynt is indicative of local government spun totally out of control and an atrocious tragedy that the system let that shit fly for years.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703975)

Once again, shooting your mouth off with shit you are completely clueless on. A republican mayor in Flint? Since fucking when?

Flint hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1973, that's when. Even that was a short lived experience. The teamsters and the UAW have owned the political influence on that city for 3/4 of a century.

100% authority? Try no authority. The decision to switch from Lake Huron to The Flint River was a state decision. A state with a Republican governor and a house of representatives controlled by........ Republicans.

Republican Gov Rick Snyder and his cronies have been a cancer on that state since taking office. Job one was undermining any democratic or union authority they had access to. Passing the "right to work" law that was solely aimed at dismantling the power of unions, drew huge protests not only from union members, but from average citizens as well.

This is just another shameful example of the war on middle class and working families. So, there is plenty of reason to be calling for the arrest of those responsible, and that responsibility just so happens to fall at the foot of the Governor.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703978)

Once, again, your understanding basically amounts to shit. Once this started to come out, all those "checks and balances" you are referring to were conducted under the authority of the state of Michigan. Which is why there is going to be an investigation, because there is already evidence showing those reports were tampered with. One example is that some of the water that was tested and included in those reports was from houses in Flint that were not even hooked up to the city water supply. Doctored reports are a felony. They thought that could get away with it, thinking nobody would bat an eye. Some heads are going to roll on this one.




Not a race thing? Well given the fact that the majority of citizens of Flint are either black or hispanic, doesn't cast a very good reflection on the mostly all-white politicians that make decisions for them.



Again, the local government authority over such matters were removed from local officials hands after Snyder was elected. Flint's current mayor, Karen Weaver, has asked that authority be returned to local officials, but since there is a strong possibility that some higher ups are likely to to be found guilty of negligence, look for that process to be stalled as long as possible.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704252)

Dumbfuck shitstain, the op spun it to be about the Republican mayor, I stated it has nothing to do with a Republican mayor.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704253)

Dumbfuck shitstain, none of this drivel refutes anything I write. You just described checks and balances and shown you didn't even watch the debate and have no fucking clue how Hillary spun it yet you're yapping your shitstained mouth about it all.



You're a miserable whiny piece of shit. Get that straight fuckwad.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704265)

Dumbfuck shitstain, he edited his post. You're too fucking stupid to figure that out.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703975)

Once again, shooting your mouth off with shit you are completely clueless on. A republican mayor in Flint? Since fucking when?

Flint hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1973, that's when. Even that was a short lived experience. The teamsters and the UAW have owned the political influence on that city for 3/4 of a century.

100% authority? Try no authority. The decision to switch from Lake Huron to The Flint River was a state decision. A state with a Republican governor and a house of representatives controlled by........ Republicans.

Republican Gov Rick Snyder and his cronies have been a cancer on that state since taking office. Job one was undermining any democratic or union authority they had access to. Passing the "right to work" law that was solely aimed at dismantling the power of unions, drew huge protests not only from union members, but from average citizens as well.

This is just another shameful example of the war on middle class and working families. So, there is plenty of reason to be calling for the arrest of those responsible, and that responsibility just so happens to fall at the foot of the Governor.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703975)

The decision to switch from Lake Huron to The Flint River was a state decision. A state with a Republican governor and a house of representatives controlled by........ Republicans.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703975)

Republican Gov Rick Snyder and his cronies have been a cancer on that state since taking office. Job one was undermining any democratic or union authority they had access to. Passing the "right to work" law that was solely aimed at dismantling the power of unions, drew huge protests not only from union members, but from average citizens as well.

This is just another shameful example of the war on middle class and working families. So, there is plenty of reason to be calling for the arrest of those responsible, and that responsibility just so happens to fall at the foot of the Governor.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 20704339)

Nothing new here. Bureaucrat's thought they would save a few million that instead will cost them hundreds of miilion. Same shit different town.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20703975)

The decision to switch from Lake Huron to The Flint River was a state decision. A state with a Republican governor and a house of representatives controlled by........ Republicans.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704325)

you dumbfucking shitstain-

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704325)

you dumbfucking shitstain-

the previous fucking mayor, Dayne Walling, was a democrat and lost due to his mismanagement of Flint, up to and including the current water crisis.

"His tenure as mayor included a succession of four emergency managers appointed by the state to run the city and most recently saw a public health crisis swell after lead was found to be leaching into the Flint water system."

Karen Weaver unseats Dayne Walling to win Flint mayor | MLive.com

"On November 8, 2011, Walling defeated Buchanan 8,819 votes (56%) to 6,868 votes (44%). That same day, the Michigan State review panel declared the City of Flint to be in state of a "local government financial emergency". His authority as Flint Mayor was superseded by the appointment by Michigan Governor Rick Snyder of Michael Brown as the city's Emergency Manager on November 29 effective December 1. After a series of emergency manager on April 30, 2015, the state moved the city from under from an emergency manager receivership to a Receivership Transition Advisory Board."

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20704388)

You lose all credibility and look like a total fucking moron when you lead every response with this.

You remind me of Donald Trump. You refuse to back down, even when you're wrong.

I know you don't care, but just thought I'd point that out.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20704395)

Whats your point Dyna? Randomly copying and pasting snippets of articles can be done by a child. You still can't seem to muster up any of your own words to say what your actual intentions are for doing so. If you think you have proved me wrong about something, please explain, or are you going to go with the "if yU dnt no, then Yer stoopid" tactic?

To anyone intelligent reading these posts, you are digging a hole. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704364)

you dumbfuck shitstain.

Obama had denied the Governor's request to declare Flint a disaster zone.

Snyder to appeal Obama's denial of Flint disaster zone

Gov. Rick Snyder intends to appeal the Obama administrationâ??s denial of a major disaster declaration in Flint that blocked the governorâ??s request for $96 million in federal aid for bottled water, faucet filters and replacing lead-leaching pipes.

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20704388)

You lose all credibility and look like a total fucking moron when you lead every response with this.

You remind me of Donald Trump. You refuse to back down, even when you're wrong. Do you come here just to argue?

I know you don't care, but just thought I'd point that out.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20704399)

Because the Republican governor wants all US taxpayers to bail out the problem that he and his administration should be responsible for. States have budgets, and its going to be up to the state to fix it.

Bring on the next turd you intend to fling.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704396)

ok, here's your chance to look smart and back up your shit.


exactly what the fuck am i wrong about and should back down on?

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 20704388)

You lose all credibility and look like a total fucking moron when you lead every response with this.

You remind me of Donald Trump. You refuse to back down, even when you're wrong. Do you come here just to argue?

I know you don't care, but just thought I'd point that out.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704403)

heads up dumbfuck shitstain. Obama flip flopped and signed the disaster request.

Originally Posted by astronaut x (Post 20704409)

The problem here is that you are all over the place and not making any sense. Its not up to everyone else to clean it all up and make it nice and pretty so its presented in a clear logical manner. That's your job, and right now you are failing something epic.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704416)

Looks like the federal administration is also in on it... Any hate for the Obama administration to hand out also?

(Note that, despite what the EPA official states, the EPA communicates with the public, and takes action all by itself, circumventing state governments, whenever it feels like doing so)

The EPA Also Knew Flint's Water Might Be Poisoned Last Year But Didn't Tell Anyone



Rebecca Cook/Reuters

The Michigan state government has come under heavy criticism in recent weeks because of reports that it downplayed and even actively tried to cover up problems with Flint's drinking water before incontrovertible evidence of a crisis became public. (The city switched to a new drinking water source in April 2014; its water has since been plagued by high levels of toxic substances, especially lead. The situation has gotten so dire that the National Guard and FEMA are involved.)

The federal government also knew there might be toxic material in the city's water long before any public official acknowledged as muchâ??a controversial decision that the EPA's top Midwest official, Susan Hedman, defended to the Detroit News in an interview this week. Hedman argues that the EPA did its best to address the issue behind the scenes and would have been acting inappropriately if it had made any public announcement about the potential problems:

Hedman said federal law clearly lays out the state and federal responsibilities in overseeing safe drinking water. The EPAâ??s role is to establish treatment standards and monitoring techniques, and provide technical assistance, she said. The state acts as the primary regulator of water operations.

â??It is important to understand the clear roles here,â?� Hedman said. â??Communication about lead in drinking water and the health impacts associated with that, thatâ??s the role of [the Department of Health and Human Services], the county health department and the drinking water utility.â?�

The crux of the matter here is the issue of "corrosion control." The water from Flint's new sourceâ??the Flint Riverâ??was more corrosive than the water from its old source. That's what caused lead from water pipes to leach into the drinking water that comes out of taps. But the city might have mitigated the issueâ??and should have, according to federal lawâ??if it had treated the water to make it less corrosive. The EPA made inquiries about corrosion as early as February 2015, at which time Michigan state officials replied that Flint had an "optimized corrosion control plan." It didn't have any plan, in fact (nice one, state Michigan officials), something which the EPA now acknowledges it had confirmed for itself by April 2015. In June 2015, an EPA employee named Miguel Del Toral had written an internal memo about the problem (and confirmed the "the presence of high lead results in [Flint] drinking water" through testing). Del Toral's memo became public via a Flint resident to whom he'd given it.

Here's what the EPA did after that happened: It put out a press release referring to Del Toral's data as "initial results" that other officials would need to "verify and assess." Hedman, the regional EPA boss, told the mayor of Flint in a private email that â??the preliminary draft report should not have been released outside the agency." At the same time, Michigan state government spokesperson Brad Wurfel said that "anyone who is concerned about lead in the drinking water in Flint can relax"; Wurfel, who has since resigned, also later called Del Toral a "rogue employee." The EPA didn't say anything further to defend its own analysisâ??which, as it turns out, was completely correct.

By September 2015, independent studies had confirmed that there was lead in Flint's drinking water which was causing lead poisoning in children. In October 2015 the state of Michigan acknowledged it had screwed up and the city stopped using the Flint River as a water source. And in November, the EPA finally released an official version of Del Toral's report. Meanwhile, the Detroit News says this week, "unfiltered Flint water is still not safe to drink."



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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704416)

The federal government also knew there might be toxic material in the city's water long before any public official acknowledged as much—a controversial decision that the EPA's top Midwest official, Susan Hedman, defended to the Detroit News in an interview this week.


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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20703919)

Trust me, democrats & liberals can be idiots too. We all have the idiot gene.

For example, you know what Cern and the LHC is, right? Did you know that for a while, a giant one was being built in Texas, and that it would have been one of the most powerful colliders in the world had it not been scrapped by an idiot.... democrat... at the time. Politicians of any flavour getting in the way of science pisses me off.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20704410)

you actually think i'm trying to establish credibility with some dumbfuck shitstain that's butthurt because i was joking around with him in my supernova thread.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

speaking of no credibility.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20704425)

FAR worse, IMHO, is the tragedy which are the Cities which have been completely controlled by Democrats for the last 60 years, and have become crime infested, destitute shit holes filled with people trapped and utterly dependent on government hand outs. That's not just "being an idiot", that's systemic.

.:2 cents: