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Rochard 03-08-2016 08:32 PM

Dump Trump
 
It's time for us to Dump Trump. Let's use this post to track all of his lies and bullshit and other such nonsense.

plaster 03-08-2016 08:34 PM

Dump the bump...

Rochard 03-08-2016 08:35 PM

I will gladly go first....

Trump lied about videos of "people cheering on 9/11".

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," he said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

There is no video of thousands of people in Jersey City cheering. Weeks later, Drumpf continues to stand by his claim but has not been able to point to evidence to back it up. Public safety officials on the ground in New Jersey say it never happened.

abshard 03-08-2016 08:38 PM

I will vote Trump over Clinton but if Cruz wins I would vote Clinton over Cruz

#23 03-08-2016 08:40 PM

Here a fitting photo for this topic
http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content...186.cached.jpg

Robbie 03-08-2016 08:40 PM

Another unfortunately timed rant from you.

Trump will be the nominee. And the person you will have trying to call him a liar will be....Hillary. :1orglaugh

abshard 03-08-2016 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #23 (Post 20758755)
Here a fitting photo for this topic
http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content...186.cached.jpg

They all lie lmao

Rochard 03-08-2016 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abshard (Post 20758749)
I will vote Drumpf over Clinton but if Cruz wins I would vote Clinton over Cruz

I do not like Hillary. And I am not too fond of Sanders.

But I will not vote for Trump. Nearly every word out of his mouth is pure bullshit.

Rochard 03-08-2016 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758758)
Another unfortunately timed rant from you.

Drumpf will be the nominee. And the person you will have trying to call him a liar will be....Hillary. :1orglaugh

Trump will most likely be the Republican nominee. I am stunned that this is allowed to happen.

Rochard 03-08-2016 09:02 PM

This morning during a speech Drumpf said "He employees many people at his hotel in Hawaii". But... Drumpf doesn't own a hotel in Hawaii.

"Drumpf International Hotel & Tower® Waikiki Beach Walk® is not owned, developed or sold by Donald J. Drumpf, the Drumpf Organization or any of their affiliates. Irongate Azrep BW LLC, the owner and developer of the property, uses the "Drumpf" name and mark under license from Drumpf Marks Waikiki LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms."

And of course this hotel has been caught up in multiple lawsuits too.

In 2009, the owner and developer of the hotel, Irongate, was sued by would be buyers of condos at the complex because the developer said Drumpf was a co-developer in sales contracts, according to an Associated Press report. He was in fact not a co-developer -- and as a result, buyers of 11 condos tried to cancel their sales contracts.

On Donald Trump's claim that he "employs many people" at Honolulu hotel - CBS News

Tjeezers 03-08-2016 09:08 PM

Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2

" I have to say a lot of people have been asking me this question, No, really. A Lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say " What`s 2+2 " ?
And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is, We`ve had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can`t believe it, Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s, It`s terrible, It`s just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I`ll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It`s probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it`s probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. I like a lot of zeros, Except for Marco Rubio, now, he`s a zero that I don`t like. Though, I probably shouldn`t say that. He`s a nice guy but he`s like " 10101000101 " on and on, like that. He`s like a computer. I don`t know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don`t tell you that, and I`ll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You would not believe it. So, we`re gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me "

TCLGirls 03-08-2016 09:31 PM

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JJ Gold 03-08-2016 09:46 PM

I hope this thread catches on. I hope it becomes so popular that Trump puts it on a giant screen during a rally and proceeds to refer to Rochard as "squid pizza boy" and "sunglass selfie loser".

Robbie 03-08-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20758794)
Trump will most likely be the Republican nominee. I am stunned that this is allowed to happen.

You are stunned that people are "allowed" to vote for whom they wish?

Well...I guess you have a point. The media and the establishment have tried to destroy him since the day he announced.

Maybe you forgot that the govt. of the United States is supposed to be "We the People of the United States"
Not "We the ruled over by the handpicked nominees of the ruling party establishment".

I don't understand how you can openly wish to be ruled by the same people who have spied on us, drove our country into debt, started war after war, and enriched themselves at the expense of the rest of us.

I guess you think you are right. But man...you are so wrong if you think we should all be sheep and just accept what they tell us to do.

Trump was not ALLOWED, he is being VOTED for by the PEOPLE.

They will have another chance in the general election to vote again. And I predict the establishment is going to double down on the already unprecedented attacks on Trump.

Maybe you will be happy and they will still be able to pull a last minute miracle and install their handpicked ruler over the people's wishes.
Maybe Hillary will win. Maybe they will have to fix the votes. Or maybe they will do something far more deadly.

And then you can be happy. The establishment will have won and the lifetime career/bureaucrats can go back to business as usual.

NemesisEnforcer 03-08-2016 10:33 PM

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crockett 03-09-2016 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 20758815)
Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2

" I have to say a lot of people have been asking me this question, No, really. A Lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say " What`s 2+2 " ?
And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is, We`ve had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can`t believe it, Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s, It`s terrible, It`s just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I`ll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It`s probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it`s probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. I like a lot of zeros, Except for Marco Rubio, now, he`s a zero that I don`t like. Though, I probably shouldn`t say that. He`s a nice guy but he`s like " 10101000101 " on and on, like that. He`s like a computer. I don`t know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don`t tell you that, and I`ll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You would not believe it. So, we`re gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me "

That's pretty much spot on.. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He talks and talks but can never answer a question.

porndumpme 03-09-2016 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20758743)
I will gladly go first....

Trump lied about videos of "people cheering on 9/11".

"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down," he said at a Nov. 21 rally in Birmingham, Ala. "And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering."

There is no video of thousands of people in Jersey City cheering. Weeks later, Drumpf continues to stand by his claim but has not been able to point to evidence to back it up. Public safety officials on the ground in New Jersey say it never happened.

No offense mate, that's a bit silly. Im pretty sure he was talking about the people in the middle east, you know those women going yalalalal..

Why would people in Jersey cheer that on for?

porndumpme 03-09-2016 12:47 AM

Why aint you guys voting for Rand Paul?!? He is the only one anti establishment.. trump MIGHT be.. but he may also be owned by the big banks..

crockett 03-09-2016 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 20759022)
Why aint you guys voting for Rand Paul?!? He is the only one anti establishment.. trump MIGHT be.. but he may also be owned by the big banks..

I've said that many times but our resident GFY conservabros like shiny things and Rand Paul doesn't talk like a 3rd grade teacher so he can't seem to get his point across..

mineistaken 03-09-2016 12:59 AM

#trumptrain

mineistaken 03-09-2016 01:00 AM

Speaking of lies, nicely debunked Romney's lies about his companies, lol


mineistaken 03-09-2016 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758758)
And the person you will have trying to call him a liar will be....Hillary. :1orglaugh

See, he won't call her liar because she is from his favorable party. He is blind like that :1orglaugh

OneHungLo 03-09-2016 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758893)
You are stunned that people are "allowed" to vote for whom they wish?

Well...I guess you have a point. The media and the establishment have tried to destroy him since the day he announced.

Maybe you forgot that the govt. of the United States is supposed to be "We the People of the United States"
Not "We the ruled over by the handpicked nominees of the ruling party establishment".

I don't understand how you can openly wish to be ruled by the same people who have spied on us, drove our country into debt, started war after war, and enriched themselves at the expense of the rest of us.

I guess you think you are right. But man...you are so wrong if you think we should all be sheep and just accept what they tell us to do.

Trump was not ALLOWED, he is being VOTED for by the PEOPLE.

They will have another chance in the general election to vote again. And I predict the establishment is going to double down on the already unprecedented attacks on Trump.

Maybe you will be happy and they will still be able to pull a last minute miracle and install their handpicked ruler over the people's wishes.
Maybe Hillary will win. Maybe they will have to fix the votes. Or maybe they will do something far more deadly.

And then you can be happy. The establishment will have won and the lifetime career/bureaucrats can go back to business as usual.

He must be doing something right when you have the heads from some of the largest corps in the world meeting with high powered republicans trying to figure out how to stop him.

"At Secretive Meeting, Tech CEOs And Top Republicans Commiserate, Plot To Stop Trump"

mineistaken 03-09-2016 01:09 AM

Megyn Kelly @megynkelly · 5h5 hours ago

.@realDonaldTrump on @MittRomney's attacks: “If he used the same energy against @BarackObama he would have won.”

Penny24Seven 03-09-2016 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758893)
You are stunned that people are "allowed" to vote for whom they wish?

Well...I guess you have a point. The media and the establishment have tried to destroy him since the day he announced.

Maybe you forgot that the govt. of the United States is supposed to be "We the People of the United States"
Not "We the ruled over by the handpicked nominees of the ruling party establishment".

I don't understand how you can openly wish to be ruled by the same people who have spied on us, drove our country into debt, started war after war, and enriched themselves at the expense of the rest of us.

I guess you think you are right. But man...you are so wrong if you think we should all be sheep and just accept what they tell us to do.

Trump was not ALLOWED, he is being VOTED for by the PEOPLE.

They will have another chance in the general election to vote again. And I predict the establishment is going to double down on the already unprecedented attacks on Trump.

Maybe you will be happy and they will still be able to pull a last minute miracle and install their handpicked ruler over the people's wishes.
Maybe Hillary will win. Maybe they will have to fix the votes. Or maybe they will do something far more deadly.

And then you can be happy. The establishment will have won and the lifetime career/bureaucrats can go back to business as usual.

The max reply allowed to waste your life on Rockhard is 2 minutes. Anything after that and you are wasting your time because he is thinking about the next pizza animal he is going to take a selfie with and post to his facebook group to gain fame.

mineistaken 03-09-2016 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20759079)
The max reply allowed to waste your life on Rockhard is 2 minutes. Anything after that and you are wasting your time because he is thinking about the next pizza animal he is going to take a selfie with and post to his facebook group to gain fame.

:thumbsup:1orglaugh:2 cents:

Paul Markham 03-09-2016 01:41 AM

Donald Trump lies ? yes, lies ? about his policies. And he does it constantly.

Quote:

"Everybody?s got to be covered," he said, referring to his health care plan. "This is an un-Republican thing for me to say, because a lot of times they say, 'No, no, the lower 25 percent that can?t afford private.' But I am going to take care of everybody. I don?t care if it costs me votes or not."
Quote:

Trump has now released both his health care and tax plans. And we can now say with certainty that Donald Trump was lying.

Paul Markham 03-09-2016 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 20759022)
Why aint you guys voting for Rand Paul?!? He is the only one anti establishment.. trump.. IS also be owned by the big banks..

Forbes Welcome

Here's the truth. Trump is only free of the Establishment if he owes it nothing and expects nothing from it.

This goes for Americans and Europeans as well. Over a Third of US debt is held by foreigners, it all goes through the banking system. It's 100% down to the choices AMERICANS MAKE on who runs their country. The Banker own us.

Think of it in terms of your mortgage, and you need a 50th mortgage to keep the lights on and the only place you can get it is the banks.

Because you sold your ass to foreigners.

Paul Markham 03-09-2016 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 20759022)
Why aint you guys voting for Rand Paul?!? He is the only one anti establishment.. trump MIGHT be.. but he may also be owned by the big banks..

Rand plays the bribery game just like the others.

14.5% income tax rate. Has to be balanced by huge tax rises by other means. Maybe 20 VAT and up to 30% on luxury goods. Or high fuel, tobacco, alcohol, land taxes. Whatever the cuts they will resort in more debt.

Cutting Government size is a great soundbite and stupid. Cut it where?

Social Security will increase crime and the need to pay for more police and prison. This will also happen if Government jobs are cut. Food subsidies will mean higher prices in the shops. Not going to war and cutting defence will save money, but will also cause unemployment. Overall it will produce a profit.

Not enough to balance the budget or reduce borrowing.

And there's the problem for all of us. We can't live this lifestyle without borrowing to fund it. The borrowed money flows into the economy and into our pockets. It trickles down.

nico-t 03-09-2016 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20758794)
Trump will most likely be the Republican nominee. I am stunned that this is allowed to happen.

You're a retard. You are stunned at a democratic process. You rather have the corrupt career politicans spoonfed to you like a good little brainwashed zombie. Corrupt disasters like Hillary who is decades into the highest ranks in Washington = partly responsible for the ongoing death grip of the corrupt FED, the huge financial crash, the wars. Gotta love that 'experience' right. 4 more years of flushing the citizens, economy and soldiers down the toilet, yay!

Yanks_Todd 03-09-2016 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20759328)
You're a retard. You are stunned at a democratic process. You rather have the corrupt career politicans spoonfed to you like a good little brainwashed zombie. Corrupt disasters like Hillary who is decades into the highest ranks in Washington = partly responsible for the ongoing death grip of the corrupt FED, the huge financial crash, the wars. Gotta love that 'experience' right. 4 more years of flushing the citizens, economy and soldiers down the toilet, yay!


I think he is stunned that there are enough people to vote for him to keep this freak show going. That is pretty clear, is it not? I got that out of it. However I also don't call people retard so perhaps I am a bit more seasoned in communication. :thumbsup

Barry-xlovecam 03-09-2016 06:19 AM

The only thing I am astonished by is that: we are so entrenched in this 2 party system that you have to hijack an existing and unwilling party to become a political candidate.

Trump changed his registered party affiliation and declared himself a Republican? Bernie Sanders was elected many times as an independent. Now all of a sudden, Sanders changes his registered party affiliation and declared himself a Democrat? Trump and Sanders might have 30% each of the popular vote representation -- that is 60% of the voters, regardless of their respective positions, saying that the Republican and Democrat party's regulars do not have their support -- that is a majority of voters :2 cents:

American politics is like an adversarial court system. We bicker back and forth, rarely finding common ground and get little accomplished with the exception of military spending and starting wars and ''mini'' wars.

Bottom line: Both Trump and Sanders are pseudo party affiliates for reasons of convince.

Jigster715 03-09-2016 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 20759490)
The only thing I am astonished by is that: we are so entrenched in this 2 party system that you have to hijack an existing and unwilling party to become a political candidate.

Trump changed his registered party affiliation and declared himself a Republican? Bernie Sanders was elected many times as an independent. Now all of a sudden, Sanders changes his registered party affiliation and declared himself a Democrat? Trump and Sanders might have 30% each of the popular vote representation -- that is 60% of the voters, regardless of their respective positions, saying that the Republican and Democrat party's regulars do not have their support -- that is a majority of voters :2 cents:

American politics is like an adversarial court system. We bicker back and forth, rarely finding common ground and get little accomplished with the exception of military spending and starting wars and ''mini'' wars.

Bottom line: Both Trump and Sanders are pseudo party affiliates for reasons of convince.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^You had me at hijack. :2 cents:

bronco67 03-09-2016 07:02 AM

Every time he speaks he only displays how uninformed he is about global and domestic affairs.

Rochard 03-09-2016 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndumpme (Post 20759016)
No offense mate, that's a bit silly. Im pretty sure he was talking about the people in the middle east, you know those women going yalalalal..

Why would people in Jersey cheer that on for?

He wasn't talking about people in the Middle East. He was talking about people in New Jersey. Yet he has produced no proof of this.

Rochard 03-09-2016 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20759328)
You're a retard. You are stunned at a democratic process. You rather have the corrupt career politicans spoonfed to you like a good little brainwashed zombie. Corrupt disasters like Hillary who is decades into the highest ranks in Washington = partly responsible for the ongoing death grip of the corrupt FED, the huge financial crash, the wars. Gotta love that 'experience' right. 4 more years of flushing the citizens, economy and soldiers down the toilet, yay!

You could not be more wrong. I've voted Republican nearly all of my life.

And your comments here are the exact problem. You seem to be blaming everything on Hillary, and most of what you said happened under a Republican President and the rest is pure nonsense.

The "wars" and the huge financial crash happened under President Bush. The corrupt FED - What does that even mean? Flushing of the citizens - Yeah, because it's so bad we all have thousand dollar computers in our pockets (even our kids!). The economy - Again, the financial crises happened under Bush, and we currently have a 4.9% unemployment rate which (of course, someone will argue that this isn't the true unemployment rate or we need to use a different scale, but the truth is unemployment at all levels has returned to 2004 levels).

2MuchMark 03-09-2016 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758758)
Another unfortunately timed rant from you.

Trump will be the nominee. And the person you will have trying to call him a liar will be....Hillary. :1orglaugh

He will most definably be the republican nominee. That's not the point. The point is to deny him the presidency.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758893)
You are stunned that people are "allowed" to vote for whom they wish?

No. We are stunned that a guy can feed people so much pablum that they believe to be steak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20758893)
And I predict the establishment is going to double down on the already unprecedented attacks on Trump.

As they should. Trump is a liar and a bigot and completely the wrong type of guy to be president.

bronco67 03-09-2016 08:17 AM

Trump appears to have got a tax break for people who don’t earn over $500,000 - MarketWatch

How did Donald Trump qualify for a middle-class tax break? | Crain's New York Business

dyna mo 03-09-2016 08:20 AM

this thread is easily the most asinine thread here in a long time.

firstly because the op has stated often that he's not even paying attention to the POTUS race until it boils down to 2 candidates.

now he's trying to goad others into changing their minds from voting for Trump to voting for who the fuck exactly? he fails to make that case.

next, he actually thinks people's votes for TRUmp should be disallowed on account of, you know, because he doesn't like that guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20758794)
Trump will most likely be the Republican nominee. I am stunned that this is allowed to happen.

what a fucking joke.

Paul Markham 03-09-2016 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 20759328)
You're a retard. You are stunned at a democratic process. You rather have the corrupt career politicans spoonfed to you like a good little brainwashed zombie. Corrupt disasters like Hillary who is decades into the highest ranks in Washington = partly responsible for the ongoing death grip of the corrupt FED, the huge financial crash, the wars. Gotta love that 'experience' right. 4 more years of flushing the citizens, economy and soldiers down the toilet, yay!

And of course, the Republicans are clean of all corruption. :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20759697)
He wasn't talking about people in the Middle East. He was talking about people in New Jersey. Yet he has produced no proof of this.

Where was he when he saw the video? If NJ, he's guilty of bad grammar. If not NJ guilty of lying.

Democratic countries get the leaders they vote for. 2 parties or 10, wouldn't make any difference if people voted for the wrong people.

nico-t 03-09-2016 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20759703)
You could not be more wrong. I've voted Republican nearly all of my life.

And your comments here are the exact problem. You seem to be blaming everything on Hillary, and most of what you said happened under a Republican President and the rest is pure nonsense.

The "wars" and the huge financial crash happened under President Bush. The corrupt FED - What does that even mean? Flushing of the citizens - Yeah, because it's so bad we all have thousand dollar computers in our pockets (even our kids!). The economy - Again, the financial crises happened under Bush, and we currently have a 4.9% unemployment rate which (of course, someone will argue that this isn't the true unemployment rate or we need to use a different scale, but the truth is unemployment at all levels has returned to 2004 levels).

You misunderstood. I don't see parties. I see politicians. Now is the first time someone who is not a politician runs, a breath of fresh air, and you prefer... the politician. Whether it's Hillary, Cruz, Sanders, Rubio - they are all Washington puppets.

L-Pink 03-09-2016 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20759712)
.



As they should. Trump is a liar and a bigot and completely the wrong type of guy to be president.


.... he says thru his Hillary shaded glasses.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20740174)
Seriously?

My wife is Lebanese and has family in Lebanon. They are Christian. Are you really going to stop Christians from entering the country only because they are Lebanese? Your ban will prevent Christians from entering the country while allowing an unlimited amount of Muslims from Europe to enter the country? Brilliant idea.



Here is why Rochard hates Trump.

He cares more about people in Lebanon rather then the future of the USA.

Just another traitor who puts foreigner interests above his own people.

TheLegacy 03-09-2016 08:48 AM

Trump is playing off of the frustrations people feel for politicians. The more the media and other politicians get upset at him the more American's support him. If your enemy hates someone you suddenly like them because they are pissing your enemy off.

MrBottomTooth 03-09-2016 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20758794)
Trump will most likely be the Republican nominee. I am stunned that this is allowed to happen.

Allowed? Isn't this what the people are voting for? It's what the majority of people want obviously. That's democracy for ya.

TheSquealer 03-09-2016 09:14 AM

Everyone says they love Democracy, until their team gets voted out... then suddenly, its all a scam, a con, a lie, its corrupt and its unfair and people of course suddenly became stupid and brainwashed.

Fucking simpleton.

Rochard 03-09-2016 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20759865)
Here is why Rochard hates Drumpf.

He cares more about people in Lebanon rather then the future of the USA.

Just another traitor who puts foreigner interests above his own people.

Question for you... Under Trump.... Will my wife have to leave the country because she is Lebanese?

Will my daughter?

dyna mo 03-09-2016 09:25 AM

the op can't even figure out who he's voting for while he thinks he's figured out who you should not vote for.


jtfc.

MetaMan 03-09-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20759940)
Question for you... Under Trump.... Will my wife have to leave the country because she is Lebanese?

Will my daughter?

Why would they have to leave?

If they are here illegally they shouldn't ve here in the first place.

Your question is based off of emotion and provides no back story or facts.

Robbie 03-09-2016 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd (Post 20759457)
I think he is stunned that there are enough people to vote for him to keep this freak show going. That is pretty clear, is it not? I got that out of it.

I wasn't talking about him being "stunned" at that. I was referring to what Rochard actually said.
He is "stunned" that it was ALLOWED.

WTF? What do you take from that? Wow. "Allowed" Wow.


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