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Grapesoda 11-17-2016 06:12 AM

if trump can pull this off, it will change everything
 
Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

new game now... see? do you fucking get why trump got elected now?

pimpmaster9000 11-17-2016 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21307915)
Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

new game now... see? do you fucking get why trump got elected now?

lobbying in other countries is called by its real name: corruption

a five year ban? how about a permanent ban?...its illegal everywhere else save for politics...

slapass 11-17-2016 06:23 AM

Obama had 2 years. They just do "consulting" during the ban. It changes nothing. i think both sides would support this but no one will really do it.

bronco67 11-17-2016 07:26 AM

Read this article dickhead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d4_story.html

By the way, Michael Flynn and Rudy Giuliani are lobbyists too.

Joshua G 11-17-2016 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21308074)
Read this article dickhead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d4_story.html

By the way, Michael Flynn and Rudy Giuliani are lobbyists too.

bronco take your leftward propaganda, twist it sideways, & stick it up your candy ass.

:1orglaugh

Rochard 11-17-2016 07:33 AM

This cannot be real, can it? How do people fall for this?

Trump isn't banning lobbyists, he is out right employing them. He is moving the lobbyists directly into the White House. He is not banning them, he is giving them jobs so they can continue to influence the government to promote their cause.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21308074)
Read this article dickhead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d4_story.html

By the way, Michael Flynn and Rudy Giuliani are lobbyists too.

Wasn't Giuliani a consultant for foreign governments including Iran and Qatar?

Some quick research tells me he was: Giuliani took money from Qatar, Venezuela, Iranian exiles - POLITICO

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This will be so much fun!

directfiesta 11-17-2016 07:45 AM

First president-elect not to divulge his taxes !

First-president elect not comiting to put his personal assets in a blind trust or divest of them !

( Repubs even has a peanutgate about Carter ... lol )

Yes, such a great model and a beacon of transparency .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bronco67 11-17-2016 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21308086)
bronco take your leftward propaganda, twist it sideways, & stick it up your candy ass.

:1orglaugh

Knowable facts aren't propaganda. How about a worthwhile retort instead of the stock answer you idiots always come up with?

bronco67 11-17-2016 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21308095)
This cannot be real, can it? How do people fall for this?

Trump isn't banning lobbyists, he is out right employing them. He is moving the lobbyists directly into the White House. He is not banning them, he is giving them jobs so they can continue to influence the government to promote their cause.



Wasn't Giuliani a consultant for foreign governments including Iran and Qatar?

Some quick research tells me he was: Giuliani took money from Qatar, Venezuela, Iranian exiles - POLITICO

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This will be so much fun!

trump is the kind of guy --- and you, me and everyone else here has known this kind of guy --- who will tell you it's raining while he takes a piss on you. I worked in an office with a guy like that, and only a small number of people (myself included) saw through his bullshit. Most people didn't.

It's the trait of a narcissistic sociopath. They can only get by in life with lies and bullshit, because they have nothing else. Smart people can see through them but they rely on dipshits who don't analyze anything to keep them afloat.

crockett 11-17-2016 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 21307915)
Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

Trump administration will ban lobbyists, enact five-year lobbying ban after leaving government

new game now... see? do you fucking get why trump got elected now?


Obama already did this.


In fact the only reason Trump can now do it, is because Obama signed a executive action to allow him to do it. Obama already has a 2 year ban for his administration.

The problem is, there is no way to stop them from being hired as consultants which ends up being the same thing as a lobbyist.. Meaning with both Obama's ban and Trump's it doesn't really change anything.

What needs to happen, is elected officials dealing with lobbyists should be considered bribery. The only thing these so called bans stop is after they are out of office, but doesn't even stop that. While in office and able to create policy, they can be bribed by lobbyists.

I guess though this means you now support Obama as it was his executive action that allowed this to happen and because of the fact Obama has already done the same thing..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

C H R I S 11-17-2016 08:22 AM

Here's the primer on Lobbying :

Corruption, American-Style-The Daily Show with Trevor Noah - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Barry-xlovecam 11-17-2016 08:41 AM

The US Constitution bans any retroactive law. Every current lobbyist would be grandfathered in. Nothing would really change :2 cents:

Grapesoda 11-17-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 21308167)
Knowable facts aren't propaganda. How about a worthwhile retort instead of the stock answer you idiots always come up with?

I'm sure Trump will incorporate all Obama's good ideas... that's the way business works

Grapesoda 11-17-2016 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21308206)
Obama already did this.


In fact the only reason Trump can now do it, is because Obama signed a executive action to allow him to do it. Obama already has a 2 year ban for his administration.

The problem is, there is no way to stop them from being hired as consultants which ends up being the same thing as a lobbyist.. Meaning with both Obama's ban and Trump's it doesn't really change anything.

What needs to happen, is elected officials dealing with lobbyists should be considered bribery. The only thing these so called bans stop is after they are out of office, but doesn't even stop that. While in office and able to create policy, they can be bribed by lobbyists.

I guess though this means you now support Obama as it was his executive action that allowed this to happen and because of the fact Obama has already done the same thing..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Great and I'm sure Trump will use Obama's other good ideas

noshit 11-17-2016 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 21308086)
bronco take your leftward propaganda, twist it sideways, & stick it up your candy ass.

:1orglaugh

:thumbsup:1orglaugh

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noshit 11-17-2016 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21308095)
This cannot be real, can it? How do people fall for this?

Trump isn't banning lobbyists, he is out right employing them. He is moving the lobbyists directly into the White House. He is not banning them, he is giving them jobs so they can continue to influence the government to promote their cause.



Wasn't Giuliani a consultant for foreign governments including Iran and Qatar?

Some quick research tells me he was: Giuliani took money from Qatar, Venezuela, Iranian exiles - POLITICO

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. This will be so much fun!

Praise Kek

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