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2MuchMark 03-06-2017 10:45 PM

Donald Trumps worst deal ever could now land him in Prison.
 
Donald Trumps worst deal ever could now land him in Prison. (Fingers crossed!)

Donald Trump?s Worst Deal - The New Yorker

This is heavy.

Bladewire 03-06-2017 10:51 PM


onwebcam 03-06-2017 10:53 PM

Nice try but not going to happen yet again.

Barry-xlovecam 03-06-2017 10:59 PM

Quote:

Frank McDonald, an Englishman who has had a long career doing construction jobs in developing countries, performed extensive work on the building?s interior. He told me that his firm was always paid in cash, and that he witnessed other contractors being paid in the same way. At the offices of Anar Mammadov?s company, he said, ?they would give us a giant pile of cash,? adding, ?I got a hundred and eighty thousand dollars one time, which I fit into my laptop bag, and two hundred thousand dollars another time.? Once, a colleague of his picked up a payment of two million dollars. ?He needed to bring a big duffelbag,? McDonald recalled. The Azerbaijani lawyer confirmed that some contractors on the Baku tower were paid in cash.
Nice cash job LOLOLOL

Bladewire 03-06-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 21601960)
Nice try but not going to happen yet again.

^^

INever 03-06-2017 11:37 PM

The economy is for the 1% and fuck the rest, wars have decimated dozens of countries, the American infrastructure is crumbling, and the pols are having $60,000 worth of hot dogs flown in from Chicago. And you think everything is all a-ok?

Matt 26z 03-07-2017 12:17 AM

I was watching that lunatic Rachel Maddow talk about it earlier for like 20 minutes straight. She tried to lay out the case that it must be a scam based on two key pieces of evidence;

exhibit a: The hotel is a one hour walk from the nice section of town.

exhibit b: A taxi driver couldn't figure out how to access the hotel.

Thus it must be a scam. Maybe an illegal one.

That's it. The entire segment relied on those two things. That woman is as nuts on MSNBC these days as Glen Beck was on Fox News several years ago. She is lunatic level like he was. Then she said Trump's Yemen travel ban caused spies to turn against the US and warn terrorists of the raid.

Paul Markham 03-07-2017 01:54 AM

I tried to read it and find out what Trump has done that's illegal. Gave up half way through.

Barry-xlovecam 03-07-2017 06:30 AM

Paul when that kind of cash money changes hands on a construction job in the USA there is tax evasion -- bet on it. Maybe they do business differently in Azerbaijan. Never done business there.

But why anyone would want to build an outrageous luxury hotel in a shit-hole like Azerbaijan?

We need SENATE HEARINGS NOW!

bronco67 03-07-2017 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21602017)

That's it. The entire segment relied on those two things. That woman is as nuts on MSNBC these days as Glen Beck was on Fox News several years ago. She is lunatic level like he was. Then she said Trump's Yemen travel ban caused spies to turn against the US and warn terrorists of the raid.

That's absolutely wrong. There was much more than that so don't misrepresent it.

notinmybackyard 03-07-2017 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21601951)
Donald Trumps worst deal ever could now land him in Prison. (Fingers crossed!)

Donald Trump?s Worst Deal - The New Yorker

This is heavy.

You're starting to look like a troll

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 08:03 AM

lol total FAKE NEWS

Barry-xlovecam 03-07-2017 08:08 AM

Anyone in construction knows all about 'cash jobs' LMAO

crockett 03-07-2017 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 21602113)
I tried to read it and find out what Trump has done that's illegal. Gave up half way through.

It was a long winded article but basically the Trump group licensed their name but more importantly had direct control of every aspect of the building construction once they came on board.

Any money laundering going on at that point happens as the Trump family was over seeing the project and they would be profiting from it even if they were not directly involved.

His daughter was on the site every month, every thing that went on had to be ok'ed by the Trump family..

Either they knew there was corruption going on , or they didn't but either way they profited from it and that is illegal.

Basically the Trump family had full control over the project and they can not claim ignorance of wrong doing because they were in charge.

Added bonus the guy they were in business with was well known as a bad guy and money launder for the Iranians. This means they went into business with a guy known to launder money on a project that was used to launder money and they ran the project..

Not much to deny about it but I'm sure it won't stop the dumb dumbs here.

AndyA 03-07-2017 08:43 AM

Oh he is such a snake

Barry-xlovecam 03-07-2017 09:17 AM

Quote:

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Basically the Trump family had full control over the project and they can not claim ignorance of wrong doing because they were in charge.

Added bonus the guy they were in business with was well known as a bad guy and money launder for the Iranians. This means they went into business with a guy known to launder money on a project that was used to launder money and they ran the project..

Not much to deny about it but I'm sure it won't stop the dumb dumbs here.
Don't they call that RICO? :1orglaugh:upsidedow

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 09:18 AM

More...FAKE NEWS

crockett 03-07-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21603082)
Don't they call that RICO? :1orglaugh:upsidedow

I wouldn't get hopes up TBH.. this kinda stuff is what rich guys do.. Scum like Trump breaks the law, they put up a legal defense force to slow down process to a crawl then negotiate out a "fine" payment with no omission of wrong doing and go back to do it again...

He will pay a couple million in fines the money will go somewhere into the federal budget and he will do it again. The feds can announce they did their job and "fined" someone, Trump still makes money on the deal most likely or comes out ahead on other shit like this he didn't get caught at.. everyone is happy everyone wins..

Meanwhile some kids steals a six pack from store and ends up with 3 years in jail, while all these white collar scum bags like Trump buy their way out of their crimes after stealing millions from their investors.

nico-t 03-07-2017 09:43 AM


Robbie 03-07-2017 09:47 AM

This is serious stuff....using cash as payment in a middle eastern country. Who would do such a thing???

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603238)
This is serious stuff....using cash as payment in a middle eastern country. Who would do such a thing???

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

poncabare 03-07-2017 10:09 AM

weak attempt

Bladewire 03-07-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 21603223)
** off topic **

Do you realize that you refuse to ever see when Trump fucks up? This is not healthy for your mind.

Responding by reflecting is not acknowledging the subject at hand: Trump corruption.

GFED 03-07-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603238)
This is serious stuff....using cash as payment in a middle eastern country. Who would do such a thing???

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com

:thumbsup

Robbie 03-07-2017 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21603340)
Do you realize that you refuse to ever see when Trump fucks up? This is not healthy for your mind.

Responding by reflecting is not acknowledging the subject at hand: Trump corruption.

Stay focused little Nico-T

The question would be...who cares if he was part of building a hotel and paid with cash because that's the only thing the locals in that Arab country would take?

Does that story of what a businessman did (which most people do when you try to negotiate a better price...you pay in cash) have ANYTHING to do with the U.S. economy, jobs, trade, etc.?

Nope.

Didn't see the media doing ANY backstories on Pres. Obama did we? Only "inspirational" ones because he was baby-Jesus.

But Bush? Oh yeah. He liked to snort cocaine as a young man. OMG!!!
He is a reformed alcoholic! No way!
He owned a baseball team. Fuck...that makes him "Hitler"!

All I'm saying is that the media breathlessly reports "news" that isn't news and does so selectively.

For Pres. Obama...they brushed aside anything that he did in his younger days. And I think that is correct. It doesn't matter if Obama smoked pot or did coke as a young man. That's natural for people to sew their wild oats and had nothing to do with him being President as a mature adult.

BUT...Rachel Maddow didn't ever investigate some of the things that Obama did as a politician in Chicago and his ties to political radical extremists.
ANd personally I never cared about that anyway.

It was a non-story. And had nothing to do with anything. Who President Obama hung around with and what he believes IS relevant...but not a "news story".

And neither is Trump dealing with Arab countries and using cash to get things done on a business project.

Now IF he takes cash from the U.S. govt. and uses it to pay off a hostile country...as Pres. Obama did...then THAT is a news story

It affects all of us.

Bladewire 03-07-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603388)
The question would be...who cares if he was part of building a hotel and paid with cash because that's the only thing the locals in that Arab country would take?

You didn't read the article.

It's not about being paid in cash that's normal there.

It's about going into business with someone known to be corrupt and participating in what amounts to high end money laundering to line your pockets.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 21603475)
You didn't read the article.

It's not about being paid in cash that's normal there.

It's about going into business with someone known to be corrupt and participating in high end money laundering to line your pockets.

Like getting $25 million from saudi arabia for the Clinton Foundation? Or every senator and congressman becoming multi millionaires on a $150,000 salary?

What money laundering? Paying in cash vs receiving cash is two different things ROFL

Come on, cucks, you need to try harder than this...seriously

Rochard 03-07-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603388)
The question would be...who cares if he was part of building a hotel and paid with cash because that's the only thing the locals in that Arab country would take?

You are right. Who cares. The President of the United States can bribe anyone he wants to make a buck.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 21603607)
You are right. Who cares. The President of the United States can bribe anyone he wants to make a buck.

He wasn't President of the United States then and he wasn't bribing anyone

Do you live on fucking planet earth?

NatalieK 03-07-2017 12:01 PM

all of these fails by the fucking president of the USA, why can the voters not see beyond the BS :2 cents:

Busty2 03-07-2017 12:44 PM

Wow that was a long read, lots of padding to flush out some simple facts. But never the less as the old saying goes.

You can shit in one hand and wish in the other, what do you have?

A fucking mess to clean up :1orglaugh

2MuchMark 03-07-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21602017)
I was watching that lunatic Rachel Maddow talk about it earlier for like 20 minutes straight. She tried to lay out the case that it must be a scam based on two key pieces of evidence;

exhibit a: The hotel is a one hour walk from the nice section of town.

exhibit b: A taxi driver couldn't figure out how to access the hotel.

Thus it must be a scam. Maybe an illegal one.

That's it. The entire segment relied on those two things. That woman is as nuts on MSNBC these days as Glen Beck was on Fox News several years ago. She is lunatic level like he was. Then she said Trump's Yemen travel ban caused spies to turn against the US and warn terrorists of the raid.

THat's not at all what she said. She said the Hotel was far from what would be called a tourist or business area, and that getting to it was hard. She called it weird but didn't that that was a scam. It was a small piece of the entire story. And don't forget that this story came from Adam Davidson of the New Yorker, not from Rachel Maddow.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21604036)
THat's not at all what she said. She said the Hotel was far from what would be called a tourist or business area, and that getting to it was hard. She called it weird but didn't that that was a scam. It was a small piece of the entire story. And don't forget that this story came from Adam Davidson of the New Yorker, not from Rachel Maddow.

More FAKE NEWS

Please report FACTS, not opinions

onwebcam 03-07-2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 21603784)
all of these fails by the fucking president of the USA, why can the voters not see beyond the BS :2 cents:

https://scontent.fbna1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...a4&oe=5937C2BD

2MuchMark 03-07-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603388)
BUT...Rachel Maddow didn't ever investigate some of the things that Obama did as a politician in Chicago and his ties to political radical extremists.

This isn't Maddow's story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603388)
It was a non-story. And had nothing to do with anything.

It might be huge. Even if you put aside that Trump is now the prez', doing this deal might still be illegal.

The question is then: Are there other deals like this? And more importantly, can Prez T end up being influenced because of those deals to perhaps go easy on a bad-ass country? Could he be in a position to be blackmailed? I think these are the bigger questions.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21604066)
This isn't Maddow's story.



It might be huge. Even if you put aside that Trump is now the prez', doing this deal might still be illegal.

The question is then: Are there other deals like this? And more importantly, can Prez T end up being influenced because of those deals to perhaps go easy on a bad-ass country? Could he be in a position to be blackmailed? I think these are the bigger questions.

It's a total non story

You guys keep throwing shit at Trump but nothing sticks

PR_Glen 03-07-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 21602017)
I was watching that lunatic Rachel Maddow talk about it earlier for like 20 minutes straight. She tried to lay out the case that it must be a scam based on two key pieces of evidence;

exhibit a: The hotel is a one hour walk from the nice section of town.

exhibit b: A taxi driver couldn't figure out how to access the hotel.

Thus it must be a scam. Maybe an illegal one.

That's it. The entire segment relied on those two things. That woman is as nuts on MSNBC these days as Glen Beck was on Fox News several years ago. She is lunatic level like he was. Then she said Trump's Yemen travel ban caused spies to turn against the US and warn terrorists of the raid.

That wasn't the two pieces of evidence she or the new yorker made point of, that's what YOU got out of it by watching the first 3 mins of her video..

but, no i don't think much will come out of it as it is probably hands off from both him and any elected officials enough to avoid any real charges.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 21604102)
That wasn't the two pieces of evidence she or the new yorker made point of, that's what YOU got out of it by watching the first 3 mins of her video..

but, no i don't think much will come out of it as it is probably hands off from both him and any elected officials enough to avoid any real charges.

WHat did Trump do wrong?

Robbie 03-07-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 21604066)
It might be huge. Even if you put aside that Trump is now the prez', doing this deal might still be illegal.

The question is then: Are there other deals like this? And more importantly, can Prez T end up being influenced because of those deals to perhaps go easy on a bad-ass country? Could he be in a position to be blackmailed? I think these are the bigger questions.

I'm guessing that over the course of time since the 1970's you can find PLENTY of times that Trump paid cash both overseas and in the U.S.

Just like every business does on specific occasions. Is it illegal? No.
Not reporting it on your taxes? Yes that is illegal...just like running a stop sign and just as common.

There are very FEW times that anybody receiving cash reports it. But that isn't what Trump did.
He paid OUT cash. And I'd bet you dollars to donuts that any time that Trump has paid anyone in cash he got a receipt and filed taxes on it to write it off.

Don't you do that when you pay cash for something?

Anyway...waitresses, waiters, cab drivers, doormen, etc. across the country definitely understand what it means to get cash instead of credit or a check.

If Rachel Maddow thought her reporting on this on MSNBC's HUGE audience was going to anger real working people...she is greatly mistaken, and as always: out of touch with the people.

crockett 03-07-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21603238)
This is serious stuff....using cash as payment in a middle eastern country. Who would do such a thing???

US sent plane with $400 million in cash to Iran - CNNPolitics.com

Look It's Robbie the great Republican apologist to blame Obama & Hillary like a broken record.. Robbie is your other nick JoushaG because for fucks sake you are as brain dead as he is..

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 21604132)
Look It's Robbie the great Republican apologist to blame Obama & Hillary like a broken record.. Robbie is your other nick JoushaG because for fucks sake you are as brain dead as he is..

It's called pointing out liberal hypocracy

Sarn 03-07-2017 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 21602443)
Paul when that kind of cash money changes hands on a construction job in the USA there is tax evasion -- bet on it. Maybe they do business differently in Azerbaijan. Never done business there.

But why anyone would want to build an outrageous luxury hotel in a shit-hole like Azerbaijan?

We need SENATE HEARINGS NOW!

Interesting question. Money washing and hackers))

Banks in Azerbaijan that have courted the shadowy trade in spam-advertised pharmaceuticals now have cornered the market for processing credit card payments for fake antivirus software, new data reveals.
In June, KrebsOnSecurity highlighted research from the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) showing that Azerigazbank, a financial institution in Azerbaijan, was the primary merchant bank for most major online-fraud pharmacy affiliate programs. By the time that research was published, those programs had moved their business to another bank in Azerbaijan, JSCB Bank Standard.
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/07/...pharma-market/

Robbie 03-07-2017 01:20 PM

So glad I finally blocked crockett.
His anger and ranting & raving just got to be too much.

PLEASE don't quote him anymore. I don't even want to see his b.s.
It's depressing to think that a fellow human being could be so full of hate and vitriol.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-07-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21604153)
So glad I finally blocked crockett.
His anger and ranting & raving just got to be too much.

PLEASE don't quote him anymore. I don't even want to see his b.s.
It's depressing to think that a fellow human being could be so full of hate and vitriol.

It's mental ilness

nico-t 03-07-2017 02:20 PM

funny (or sad) thing is, cuckett is calling everyone who doesn't believe the 24/7 hate and propaganda mill 'brain dead'... irony at its best

2MuchMark 03-07-2017 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21604045)
More FAKE NEWS

Please report FACTS, not opinions

I'm not a reporter,
You are not my reader,
GFY is not a news site,
You don't know the difference.

2MuchMark 03-07-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21604117)
I'm guessing that over the course of time since the 1970's you can find PLENTY of times that Trump paid cash both overseas and in the U.S.

Just like every business does on specific occasions. Is it illegal? No.
Not reporting it on your taxes? Yes that is illegal...just like running a stop sign and just as common.

There are very FEW times that anybody receiving cash reports it. But that isn't what Trump did.
He paid OUT cash. And I'd bet you dollars to donuts that any time that Trump has paid anyone in cash he got a receipt and filed taxes on it to write it off.

Don't you do that when you pay cash for something?

Anyway...waitresses, waiters, cab drivers, doormen, etc. across the country definitely understand what it means to get cash instead of credit or a check.

If Rachel Maddow thought her reporting on this on MSNBC's HUGE audience was going to anger real working people...she is greatly mistaken, and as always: out of touch with the people.

Hi Robby,

It's not that he was paid in cash. It's that it was with an entity that has ties with terrorist organizations.

Read the whole thing at Donald Trump’s Worst Deal - The New Yorker. It's really interesting.

To Trump's credit, maybe he didn't know that he might be breaking the law. However, The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (1977) says that even if you unknowingly participated, you can still be guilty.

The exact text says "The Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, passed in 1977, forbade American companies from participating in a scheme to reward a foreign government official in exchange for material benefit or preferential treatment. The law even made it a crime for an American company to unknowingly benefit from a partner’s corruption if it could have discovered illicit activity but avoided doing so. This closed what was known as the “head in the sand” loophole
."

On a related topic, this can be pretty scary. How would anyone know if you're dealing with someone like this?

crockett 03-07-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 21604153)
So glad I finally blocked crockett.
His anger and ranting & raving just got to be too much.

PLEASE don't quote him anymore. I don't even want to see his b.s.
It's depressing to think that a fellow human being could be so full of hate and vitriol.

I only troll the fools on GFY.. think about that..

crockett 03-07-2017 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 21604156)
It's mental ilness

This coming from someone with multiple fake nicks who refreshes the page every 5 seconds for 17 hours a day..lol

Robbie 03-07-2017 04:51 PM

Mark, what I'm reading is that the people "behind the project" are "close relatives to a guy named Mammadov who is part of the govt. in charge of projects.

And an unnamed (of course) U.S. official said this guy is even more corrupt than the other people of the country.

So stopping right there for one second...a "U.S. official" says this as a source? For what reason would this person NOT go on the record? Just ridiculous.
And then this "U.S. official" who we aren't allowed to know his identity because you know...he works for us...basically says that everybody in the country is "corrupt", but this guy Mammadov is the worst of the bunch.
Nice racism there. :(

And then much further down...if you can keep from falling asleep with the wall of breathless text...we are told that the Mammadov FAMILY (whatever that means in this context): "for years, it has been financially entangled with an Iranian family tied to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps"

So a guy knows a guy who knows a guy who has invested money with a "family" in Iran who is "tied" to Iran's Revolutionary Guard????

Seriously?

And now Trump is in BIG trouble.
I think the media is really, really grasping at every straw they can.

IF that's the kind of thing that causes trouble...then Hillary and Bill would have long ago been in prison with the Clinton Foundation.

EVERYBODY in the Middle East is related to a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who has a family in Iran who know a guy.

I can't take that kind of story with ANY seriousness at all.
I don't think that Bill and Hillary should go to jail either for the shit they pull in the Middle East with their foundation.


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