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redsfv89 11-03-2017 01:26 AM

NO longer allowing affiliates with SEXMEX in domains
 
Sexmex cash is no longer allowing affiliates that send traffic from domains containing the word sexmex, as we have spent many years building the brand of our company, we have some affiliates that have linked to reality kings, mike in brazil and our site and have even caused confusion amongst customers.

We are no longer going to tolerate this, because we as company have trademarks and intellectual property. That property must be respected. Our trademark is recognized world wide and in likeness, as it is our brand.

Have any other company owners dealt with similar situations?

PornDude 11-03-2017 03:19 AM

Why don't you send them emails instead? Companies usually don't allow ad campaigns with their keywords.

Why did spend money on trademarks if you don't transfer those domains to you?

Simply cancel these accounts.

Oracle Porn 11-03-2017 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22060612)
as we have spent many years building the brand of our company

Today is the first time I hear your company name, November 2017. :2 cents:

magneto664 11-03-2017 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22060612)
We are no longer going to tolerate this, because we as company have trademarks and intellectual property. That property must be respected. Our trademark is recognized world wide and in likeness, as it is our brand.

fair enough, is a trademark - Ideally, such domains should be used only for typo or other programs, google some chaturbate stories from 2012-2014 about it.

CaringNeo 11-03-2017 05:42 AM

Reality King's, Mike in Brazil,..
NastyDollars is now Sexmex?

redsfv89 11-03-2017 01:16 PM

Already getting returns on domain names. Wow, was more and I've gotten one cyber squater banned on another affiliate program for using my trademark to get traffic, then sending it to them they didn't want to be involved in that.

Bottom like, respect intellectual property rights, I'm glad we can all work together.

CaptainHowdy 11-03-2017 01:31 PM

Ok .........

Colmike9 11-03-2017 01:45 PM

Where in your TOS does it say that? All I see is "Please Edit the 'include_support_terms' Template. "
I've lost a lot of fucking money in the past with companies pulling me for "squatting", but nothing official saying I can't do it. Posting a post on GFY doesn't mean anything. :2 cents:


Also, your TM on sexmex has been 602 (abandoned) since 2004..

Also, the SERPs for "sexmex" are terrible, affiliates can fix that for you.....

MaDalton 11-03-2017 01:45 PM

who?

5678

Barry-xlovecam 11-03-2017 01:49 PM

Trademark Status & Document Retrieval

OK ...

Sharon1974 11-03-2017 01:54 PM

So...if a affiliate is doing a good job and brings traffic and revenue you say : no thank you.

The Porn Nerd 11-03-2017 02:15 PM

Porn is a funny place, isn't it? :D

redsfv89 11-03-2017 02:36 PM

It's not about serps anymore it's about tube sites, for us as a company with a brand we need to control how that brand is used one affiliate, asked me something and I was fair, he asked me if he could transfer the domain, but maintain the site with his affiliate, he wouldn't promote other programs on the site and I get the final say so. This is reasonable, he's also going to expand on other keywords besides our brand, and is purchasing domains for that, and putting those in his name as they don't contain a trademark.

redsfv89 11-03-2017 02:40 PM

That's because your looking at the wrong one, we've had it trademarked in Mexico for a very long time, trademarks are internationally recognized, it wouldn't be hard to sue someone in mexico get a judges order from mexico, just because they fail to respond and turn it into the register, nobody has to do business with someone, in particular one affiliate 58% that was using our brand in the domain name. was lost due to chargebacks, chargeback fees issued by the bank, and cancels, and we had people emailing us telling us the bonus sites for mike in brazil and 8th street latinas, his login wasn't working. When 58% of the funds are lost from chargebacks and chargeback fees, and it's creating brand confusion, it's time to part ways, make agreements to pay them whats owed and move on.

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 22061378)
Where in your TOS does it say that? All I see is "Please Edit the 'include_support_terms' Template. "
I've lost a lot of fucking money in the past with companies pulling me for "squatting", but nothing official saying I can't do it. Posting a post on GFY doesn't mean anything. :2 cents:


Also, your TM on sexmex has been 602 (abandoned) since 2004..

Also, the SERPs for "sexmex" are terrible, affiliates can fix that for you.....


redsfv89 11-03-2017 02:43 PM

Especially when you had asked them to sell not disclosing at that time you have the trademark and they flat out refuse. Rather then being a dick, you try to work with them, but them promoting the other brands on the same domain is really just causing more issues then it's worth, then if 17K comes in and more then 10K is lost from chargebacks or chargeback fees, more then the main site looks suspect.

redsfv89 11-03-2017 02:47 PM

I'm getting the exact same amount of refferals
 
I'm getting the exact same amount of people coming to that domain on accident when trying to come to mine i see it on analytics as referrals, then they are coming to my domain as that's what they were looking for anyway, and I don't need to pay an affiliate for the sale. I've also got no chargebacks today that came from that affiliate. Also it's only fair you shouldn't loose money for "squatting" if you brought a sale when everything was pees and carrots, they should pay you, we aren't burning anyone that did this we just make a major change and contacted those affiliates doing this. Told them enough is enough.

Colmike9 11-03-2017 03:01 PM

That makes sense, but please at least have it in the TOS on your affiliate program and consider allowing affiliates to promote using your brand for promotion if they ask first. Affiliate marketing using a trademark and false advertising/being misleading are two different things.

Red Metal 11-03-2017 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 22060824)
Today is the first time I hear your company name, November 2017. :2 cents:

This :1orglaugh

NALEM 11-03-2017 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22060612)
Sexmex cash is no longer allowing affiliates that send traffic from domains containing the word sexmex, as we have spent many years building the brand of our company, we have some affiliates that have linked to reality kings, mike in brazil and our site and have even caused confusion amongst customers.

We are no longer going to tolerate this, because we as company have trademarks and intellectual property. That property must be respected. Our trademark is recognized world wide and in likeness, as it is our brand.

Have any other company owners dealt with similar situations?

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22061446)
It's not about serps anymore it's about tube sites, for us as a company with a brand we need to control how that brand is used one affiliate, asked me something and I was fair, he asked me if he could transfer the domain, but maintain the site with his affiliate, he wouldn't promote other programs on the site and I get the final say so. This is reasonable, he's also going to expand on other keywords besides our brand, and is purchasing domains for that, and putting those in his name as they don't contain a trademark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 22061486)
That makes sense, but please at least have it in the TOS on your affiliate program and consider allowing affiliates to promote using your brand for promotion if they ask first. Affiliate marketing using a trademark and false advertising/being misleading are two different things.

In you Affiliate agreement make it clear that exact use of your TM name is prohibited, unless certain conditions are met. Having a affiliate transfer ownership of the domain to you, with an exclusive right to use going back to the affiliate works. Also make it clear that no other program can be marketed by said domain.

JuicyBunny 11-03-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22061450)
That's because your looking at the wrong one, we've had it trademarked in Mexico for a very long time, trademarks are internationally recognized, it wouldn't be hard to sue someone in mexico get a judges order from mexico, just because they fail to respond and turn it into the register, nobody has to do business with someone, in particular one affiliate 58% that was using our brand in the domain name. was lost due to chargebacks, chargeback fees issued by the bank, and cancels, and we had people emailing us telling us the bonus sites for mike in brazil and 8th street latinas, his login wasn't working. When 58% of the funds are lost from chargebacks and chargeback fees, and it's creating brand confusion, it's time to part ways, make agreements to pay them whats owed and move on.

The Mexican TM only protects you in Mexico. :2 cents:

sarettah 11-03-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny (Post 22061660)
The Mexican TM only protects you in Mexico. :2 cents:


From what I saw the Mexican Trademark is for SEXMEX.XXX and EXPO SEXMEX not SEXMEX.

It looks like sexmex.com has been sending traffic to 8th st Latinas since about 2007 or 2008.

It looks like SEXMEX.XXX and the EXPO SEXMEX were registered as Trademarks in Mexico in 2013.

http://www.madspiders.com/images/sex...ark_mexico.jpg

https://trademark-search.marcaria.co...tatus=1&mode=1


So it would appear to me that SEXMEX.com might have a common law claim to the Trademark SEXMEX in at least the U.S. if not Internationally because the U.S. trademark for SEXMEX was abandoned in 2004.

The OP can do whatever he wants but he would be best off treading lightly lest someone nail him for infringing on the trademark by regging the SEXMEX.xxx.

Just for reference, while I was doing research a while back a lawyer advised me that you never want to trademark the whole domain name (with the extension) but you do want to trademark the base name. Otherwise the base name is not protected only the version with the extension is protected.

All imho of course.

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sarettah 11-03-2017 08:46 PM

OP, did you used to post here as AlphaSky?

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bns666 11-04-2017 03:37 AM

how do you plan to enforce it?

also if it brings you money from affiliates, why would you say no to that?

OldJeff 11-04-2017 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22061380)
who?

5678

Quote for Truth

Petra 11-05-2017 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22061720)
OP, did you used to post here as AlphaSky?

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Thank you for making me spit my drink out on my keyboard there... :1orglaugh

TubeSubmitters 11-05-2017 06:17 AM

Am i the only who read the name semtex? Odd name for porn.

ErectMedia 11-05-2017 07:03 AM

I'd email your affiliates as doubtful they all hang at GFY or will all see this thread.

Most mainstream affiliate programs disallow using company marks in domain names. search engine advertising, links etc... If ya add all of this to your affiliate terms than no issue. If you give approval to someone to make $ without this being in your terms and then realize they are beating you and then go to take the domain when you told them it was okay to use then not cool.

Personally I avoid using any domain names that contain another companies name as I know it's only a matter a time before they aren't cool with it. Get it in writing if you do receive permission from an affiliate program to use a domain with their mark in it as once your signups begin to make it rain $$$$ they will have a problem with it=take domain, withhold payments, shave, etc... and then all the work ya did defaults to them.

I have individual business phone numbers for a few of my sites but any term discussions are through email which leaves written proof as he said/she said on da phone doesn't hold up too well. :2 cents:

NatalieK 11-05-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22060612)
Sexmex cash is no longer allowing affiliates that send traffic from domains containing the word sexmex, as we have spent many years building the brand of our company, we have some affiliates that have linked to reality kings, mike in brazil and our site and have even caused confusion amongst customers.

We are no longer going to tolerate this, because we as company have trademarks and intellectual property. That property must be respected. Our trademark is recognized world wide and in likeness, as it is our brand.

Have any other company owners dealt with similar situations?

personally be pleased when you have affiliates selling for you.

I have a following dickhead, heŽs proven this on many times, now even purchasing a nataliek. name, this, not bothering me, if people want me, theyŽll come to me, as they do.

Check your affiliates, youŽll probably find those using the sexmex name are not even affiliates to you, so I recommend signing up to NatalieK & make some real money at 1:200 :thumbsup

bns666 11-05-2017 01:36 PM

btw you obviously don't even own sexmex.COM ...

TheDynasty 11-06-2017 12:19 PM

i see tons of others pushing the sexmex domain names.

PR_Phil 11-06-2017 12:35 PM

there is no valid trademark on the term SEXMEX in USA, Canada, or in Mexico.

OP has poor information, and no claim to any non .xxx domains containing SEXMEX. Mexican trademark site even offers the domain "sexmex.mx" for sale when you search their database for SEXMEX

trevesty 11-06-2017 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG (Post 22061380)
who?

5678

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

nikki99 11-06-2017 03:53 PM

I like tex mex food :thumbsup

JSWENSON 11-07-2017 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfv89 (Post 22060612)
Sexmex cash is no longer allowing affiliates that send traffic from domains containing the word sexmex, as we have spent many years building the brand of our company, we have some affiliates that have linked to reality kings, mike in brazil and our site and have even caused confusion amongst customers.

We are no longer going to tolerate this, because we as company have trademarks and intellectual property. That property must be respected. Our trademark is recognized world wide and in likeness, as it is our brand.

Have any other company owners dealt with similar situations?

Go fuck yourself you lying sack of idiot shit. Learn to run a business or choke on a bag of dicks. :321GFY

Speigelau 11-07-2017 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWENSON (Post 22065524)
Go fuck yourself you lying sack of idiot shit. Learn to run a business or choke on a bag of dicks. :321GFY

Hey, glad to see you back after not posting for a year. Are you now ready to pay off your election night bets that you lost? It was real convenient how you suddenly disappeared from gfy after the election when it came time to pay up, (although you were lurking here throughout the year, but too afraid to post).

3xmedia 11-07-2017 08:39 AM

lol @ this clown.

JFK 11-07-2017 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 22060824)
Today is the first time I hear your company name, November 2017. :2 cents:

Me too, so much for branding:2 cents:


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