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			| 2MuchMark | 11-21-2017 03:48 PM |  
 
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					Originally Posted by StefanG
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				 You should have replaced Sean Spicer... 
 |  HA! so funny. 
 
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					Originally Posted by StefanG
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				 Anyways, even Musk admits to their shortcomings when it comes to actual production and I take his word over yours. 
 |  Of course you should.  And like I said, they missed their Q3 projection, which means that yes they had shortcomings.  Did Musk say something different? Can you provide me a link to that please?
 
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					Originally Posted by StefanG
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				 And this doesn't contradict my statement about traditional manufacturers being better at production. 
 |  You said Tesla Can't deliver the Model 3.  They are. 
 
You said Tesla just had a record loss.  They didn't.  
 
If you define "better at production" as the number of cars built in a fixed time, then ok you're right about that.  And if you read what I said, I didn't contradict what you said.  When any company makes a new car, they are bound to hit slow-downs or need changes along the way.  GM announced the new Camaro in 2008, and they didn't ship until 2 years later, and mine took almost 7 months to arrive even though I was promised 2 months.  Shit happens with any new car. 
 
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					Originally Posted by StefanG
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				 Naturally. Because of decades of experience. 
 |  But even experienced car makers can hit problems.  Wouldn't you agree?
 
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					Originally Posted by Nick-Mindgeek
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				 Better at production ( for now ) but a complete embarrassment on the engineering level for all the old school car brands... 
 |  I sort of agree, but...  if I wanted the FASTEST car and bought a Lambo only because it was the fastest,  then yes I'd be pissed right now.  :) 
 
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					Originally Posted by slapass
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				 That ship has sailed. You can?t even touch this with gas. 
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					Originally Posted by C H R I S
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				 And 90% are in Los Angeles, those things are like BMW 3 series now... everywhere 
 |  So lucky! The Model 3's haven not made it to the Tesla showroom near me yet.  Sigh.
 
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					Originally Posted by asklaurine
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				 Believe it or bot but these is the future. 
 |  Almost the present. :) |