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Sarn 01-11-2018 07:13 AM

Poland?s government could try to drive the country out of the European Union
 
EU President Donald Tusk warned that Poland’s government could try to drive the country out of the European Union if it stops being a net recipient of bloc funding, in an interview published on Wednesday.

The former Polish premier and arch-rival of the governing Law and Justice (PiS) party spoke at a time when Poland is mired in conflict with the EU over various issues, including the controversial judicial reforms that led Brussels to launch unprecedented disciplinary proceedings against Warsaw last month.
Donald Tusk warnsÂhaPoland could hold a Brexit-style EU referendum

Freedom for Poland :1orglaugh

klinton 01-11-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22159374)
Freedom for Poland :1orglaugh

FREEDOM FOR SARN !

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Paul Markham 01-11-2018 07:46 AM

A lot of countries would leave the EU if they were not net recipients.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...ib_466x485.gif

With net recipients holding so many votes, Tusk can go fuck himself if he believes he can throw out any recipient. The EU second largest contributor is leaving. So Germany, France, Holland can pay more towards the upkeep.

klinton 01-11-2018 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22159419)
.....

dont forget about this:

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and this:

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this is also very important:

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AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST

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pimpmaster9000 01-11-2018 08:31 AM

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just a punk 01-11-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22159374)
EU President Donald Tusk warned that Poland?s government could try to drive the country out of the European Union if it stops being a net recipient of bloc funding, in an interview published on Wednesday.


Sarn 01-11-2018 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22159419)
A lot of countries would leave the EU if they were not net recipients.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...ib_466x485.gif

With net recipients holding so many votes, Tusk can go fuck himself if he believes he can throw out any recipient. The EU second largest contributor is leaving. So Germany, France, Holland can pay more towards the upkeep.

EU lose one big donor and want will cut one big recipient

Sarn 01-11-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 22159503)

:1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 01-11-2018 08:46 AM

i'd lic to live in pooland

Sarn 01-11-2018 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22159476)

:1orglaugh

klinton 01-11-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22159542)
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klinton 01-11-2018 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22159491)



:winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink::winkwink: :winkwink:

k0nr4d 01-11-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22159419)
A lot of countries would leave the EU if they were not net recipients.

The countries that are funding the net recipients are the ones benefiting. Eastern Europe is a colony for the west. The money we do get from the EU that goes to roads and building things are mostly built by western european companies. I read somewhere that 99 cents of every euro goes right back to western europe. We have shortages of IT workers, doctors, pharmacists, vets, everything because they are all leaving to go there. Doctors for instance here go to university for free, then do specialization or doctorates for free, everything paid for by the tax payer and as soon as they are done they fuck off to western europe. They can't have us starting to leave otherwise their skilled labor pool dries up. The V4 group swings a bigger dick in this whole matter then the EU wants to let on.

Bladewire 01-11-2018 10:07 AM

Nico-T won't reply to this thread because he doesn't want everyone to know that he's Polish , he'll probably send a fake nic in to do his bidding :1orglaugh

celandina 01-11-2018 10:28 AM

The Youkopoloranians never learn form history untill some Czar or Bonapart ( do not want to mention you know who) walk in and straighten them up...:2 cents:

klinton 01-11-2018 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22159686)
The countries that are funding the net recipients are the ones benefiting. Eastern Europe is a colony for the west. The money we do get from the EU that goes to roads and building things are mostly built by western european companies. I read somewhere that 99 cents of every euro goes right back to western europe.

Yes Konrad, for sure, Poland would be much better outside EU than inside, right ? Maybe you could even hire programmers for 300 euros per month, who knows !

You voted against EU membership in 2003, right ? :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

It would be probably now as brilliant country as something between modern Belarus/ Ukraine and Macedonia. All Python programmers with small pythons would be begging you to work for 320 eur and you would be like slave owner in good old XVII century:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 01-11-2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22159761)
The Youkopoloranians never learn form history untill some Czar or Bonapart ( do not want to mention you know who) walk in and straighten them up...:2 cents:

There is already one Polish guy that is supposedly "straightening" things up in PL. He is also small like Bonaparte&Hitler&Putin :winkwink::winkwink:

who the fuck are YOUKOPOLORANIANS btw ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JFK 01-11-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22159476)

Thanks, much clearer understanding now :upsidedow

Sarn 01-11-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22159695)
Nico-T won't reply to this thread because he doesn't want everyone to know that he's Polish , he'll probably send a fake nic in to do his bidding :1orglaugh

hate troll :1orglaugh

klinton 01-11-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 22159959)
Thanks, much clearer understanding now :upsidedow

no problem, never enough of good knowledge and resources !

Did you see this ? :

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It's just shocking !!

I mean, after reading THIS, I will never be the same.
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klinton 01-11-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22160028)
COMRADES, FUCK IT ! 3.6 USD already, you fuckers ! for all these posts in Broken english or copy& paste !!! Thanks for posting in my topics. Keep it coming ! I was nominated by lt. general Ivanov for Soviet Medal Of Honour !

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thommy 01-11-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22159419)
A lot of countries would leave the EU if they were not net recipients.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...ib_466x485.gif

With net recipients holding so many votes, Tusk can go fuck himself if he believes he can throw out any recipient. The EU second largest contributor is leaving. So Germany, France, Holland can pay more towards the upkeep.

welcome to 2018 paul - the stats you posted are not up to date - there has been some big changes in the past 9 years.

in regards to poland (meanwhile the BIGGEST receiver of EU money - even greece is 2 levels better) - they should let them go and if hungary protects them then they should go also. it can not be that this countries are founding with EU money new undemocratic dictatorships and trampling on freedom of press, courts and people.

the EU- east extension was really not the best idea they had.

Sarn 01-11-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22160118)
LET'S CELEBRATE ! today, YOU BUY VODKA ! you are rich !

Still Early :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


DraX 01-11-2018 01:00 PM

No wonder, EU is bullying them and putting pressure, "accept immigrants", what a nice membership. They apparently don't sell out like Merkel, swedish leaders and the rest of traitorous European leaders.

They're not trustworthy.

klinton 01-11-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22160166)



PARTY ALREADY STARTED !! JOIN IN, COMRADE

PARTY LIKE THE OIL WOULD BE FOR 150 DOLLARS !!!


klinton 01-11-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 22160175)
No wonder, EU is bullying them and putting pressure, "accept immigrants", what a nice membership. They apparently don't sell out like Merkel, swedish leaders and the rest of traitorous European leaders.

They're not trustworthy.

YES ! They will be even as self sufficient like North Koreans soon:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

btw. there is of course great international conspiracy against all great governments - Venezuelan, Cuban, North Korean...

klinton 01-11-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22160163)
welcome to 2018 paul - the stats you posted are not up to date - there has been some big changes in the past 9 years.

in regards to poland (meanwhile the BIGGEST receiver of EU money - even greece is 2 levels better) - they should let them go and if hungary protects them then they should go also. it can not be that this countries are founding with EU money new undemocratic dictatorships and trampling on freedom of press, courts and people.

the EU- east extension was really not the best idea they had.

but thats the whole point of EU& Germany ->>> to conquer new markets not with tanks, but with export....

as for the rest - kind of agree :)

Sarn 01-11-2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22160187)
PARTY ALREADY STARTED !! JOIN IN, COMRADE

PARTY LIKE THE OIL WOULD BE FOR 150 DOLLARS !!!



Ofcourse :1orglaugh

Oil Prices Hit Three-Year Highs on Growth
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-pri...ran-1515497557

klinton 01-11-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22160235)
Ofcourse :1orglaugh

Oil Prices Hit Three-Year Highs on Growth
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oil-pri...ran-1515497557

HURRRAAA !!!!

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Sarn 01-11-2018 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22160250)
URRRAAA !!!!

:1orglaugh
Hat with star! Comrade! - Coub - GIFs with sound

ianmoone332000 01-11-2018 04:06 PM

Heres hoping Poland leave. Greece should have left by now. Hungary will hopefully leave. Then the EU collapses and is finished. Then they can build the EU version 2. We all cooperate and work with each other but every country has there own immigration controls, laws, deportation laws, stops paying billions to unelected idiots. You know, what it actually was at the start before greed for money and power destroyed it

thommy 01-11-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22160442)
We all cooperate and work with each other but every country has there own immigration controls, laws, deportation laws, stops paying billions to unelected idiots. You know, what it actually was at the start before greed for money and power destroyed it


but we DO HAVE that version of the EU - and that makes it such a joke.

if the EU is deciding something the national laws are over this desicions.
that´s why EU can only decide for nonsense such as regulations on the degree of curvature of a banana.

let´s just have a small look in our industry:

the EU requires equal treatment of companies. while a dutchman is allowed to operate legal porn sites and thus participate in the market, a german or a frenchman will go to prison for the same thing.

IF a group of people or countries are deciding to play a game together they should play it under the SAME rules.

not even the idea of "united nations of europe" will work because you can see the disaster in united states where you can go to jail in one state for something what is completely legal in the other state.

it might sound funny and a bit strange but I really hope that rules, laws and decisions are one day made by a big AI computer (not company owned) what can handle logic and equality based on a program code line. at least it would help everyone to know what is right or wrong and not dealing with an different right or wrong depend on where you are at the moment.

Paul Markham 01-12-2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22159512)
EU lose one big donor and want will cut one big recipient

Tusk isn't a dictator, he has to get this by the rest of the MEPs. Will he find enough votes to vote Poland out for doing what so many do? Take rather than give.

klinton to further educate you.

Brexit: EU members' net contributions and net funding - Business Insider

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ussels-Cameron

BBC NEWS | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/euro...nt-brexit.html

thommy 01-12-2018 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22160904)
Will he find enough votes to vote Poland out for doing what so many do?

i hope so - because there is no better school for the believers in populist solutions as the reality.

k0nr4d 01-12-2018 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22160163)
trampling on freedom of press, courts and people.

Freedom of press - you mean how they are trying to restrict the amount of foreign capital that can own media companies in Poland? Exactly like Germany already does?

Courts - you mean how they want to change how supreme court judges are appointed to exactly the same method Germany uses?

People - you mean how we actually have free speech in Poland and don't get arrested for making facebook posts or having "illegal opinions" like in Germany?

:1orglaugh

k0nr4d 01-12-2018 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22159845)
Yes Konrad, for sure, Poland would be much better outside EU than inside, right ? Maybe you could even hire programmers for 300 euros per month, who knows !

You voted against EU membership in 2003, right ? :winkwink::winkwink::winkwink:

It would be probably now as brilliant country as something between modern Belarus/ Ukraine and Macedonia. All Python programmers with small pythons would be begging you to work for 320 eur and you would be like slave owner in good old XVII century:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If it works out exactly like you wrote - I'm not seeing any downside :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 01-12-2018 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22160919)
i hope so - because there is no better school for the believers in populist solutions as the reality.

Isn't democracy meant to deliver for the populist solution?

Do you want a return to the Germany dictatorship where the elite make all the decisions?

ilnjscb 01-12-2018 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22160922)
Freedom of press - you mean how they are trying to restrict the amount of foreign capital that can own media companies in Poland? Exactly like Germany already does?

Courts - you mean how they want to change how supreme court judges are appointed to exactly the same method Germany uses?

People - you mean how we actually have free speech in Poland and don't get arrested for making facebook posts or having "illegal opinions" like in Germany?

:1orglaugh

He sort of has you there. Germany is getting stupid again with the censorship. And you know exactly what I mean by "again".

thommy 01-12-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22160922)
Freedom of press - you mean how they are trying to restrict the amount of foreign capital that can own media companies in Poland? Exactly like Germany already does?

nope i mean FREEDOM OF PRESS

https://freedomhouse.org/report/free...ss/2017/poland

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Courts - you mean how they want to change how supreme court judges are appointed to exactly the same method Germany uses?
no i am talking about human rights:

https://www.hrw.org/report/2017/10/2...-attack-poland


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People - you mean how we actually have free speech in Poland and don't get arrested for making facebook posts or having "illegal opinions" like in Germany?

:1orglaugh
no i am talking about abolition of human rights

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries...report-poland/

actually there is nothing in that country what can enrich the world.
so close it again ! we will take your refugees !

thommy 01-12-2018 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22160937)
Isn't democracy meant to deliver for the populist solution?

nope - democracy means to deliver for the CORRECTLY INFORMED people.

Quote:

Do you want a return to the Germany dictatorship where the elite make all the decisions?
you have just contradicted yourself because Hitler was a result of populism and false promises.

Sarn 01-12-2018 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22160904)
Tusk isn't a dictator, he has to get this by the rest of the MEPs. Will he find enough votes to vote Poland out for doing what so many do? Take rather than give.

Yes, he is a bureaucrat. If in Poland not will receive moni without refugees, will be PLexit.

Bladewire 01-12-2018 07:02 AM

Polish Aristocrat

celandina 01-12-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22159860)

who the fuck are YOUKOPOLORANIANS btw ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Based on my long departed father in law...it is any combination of:

Yugoslavs ( Now Serbs,Croats, Bosnians, Kosovars, Albanians, Monte Negroes etc...) but also,
Ukrainians
Poles
Romanians

....and citizens of any country ending in " ....ia" as in Czechia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Chechnia, Moldavia and yes Russia.... So as "in Youkopolorania" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 01-12-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22160832)
big AI computer (not company owned) what can handle logic and equality based on a program code line. at least it would help everyone to know what is right or wrong and not dealing with an different right or wrong depend on where you are at the moment.

SIR, how about using your own brain for that ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

klinton 01-12-2018 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22160922)
Freedom of press - you mean how they are trying to restrict the amount of foreign capital that can own media companies in Poland? Exactly like Germany already does?

Courts - you mean how they want to change how supreme court judges are appointed to exactly the same method Germany uses?

People - you mean how we actually have free speech in Poland and don't get arrested for making facebook posts or having "illegal opinions" like in Germany?

:1orglaugh

you are brainwashed by Polish state TV. Poland will be like Russia in 20 years, just give it some time for these guys. In Russia there are also "judges" and "democracy" (with one party with beautiful name: UNITED RUSSIA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh ), and "free people", and I think that you know as good as me me how it REALLY works there.
So please....

klinton 01-12-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22161504)
Based on my long departed father in law...it is any combination of:

Yugoslavs ( Now Serbs,Croats, Bosnians, Kosovars, Albanians, Monte Negroes etc...) but also,
Ukrainians
Poles
Romanians

....and citizens of any country ending in " ....ia" as in Czechia, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Chechnia, Moldavia and yes Russia.... So as "in Youkopolorania" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/3c...cc5374d8ff.jpg
How about Italia, Espana, Australia? They also end with "IA" in their native languages:winkwink::winkwink:

klinton 01-12-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarn (Post 22161189)
If in Poland not will receive moni without refugees, will be PLexit.

http://www.womenonbusiness.com/wp-co...isten-750w.jpg

please tell us more of your wisdoms, we are all ears:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

magneto664 01-12-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22161801)
you are brainwashed by Polish state TV. Poland will be like Russia in 20 years, just give it some time for these guys. In Russia there are also "judges" and "democracy" (with one party with beautiful name: UNITED RUSSIA :1orglaugh:1orglaugh ), and "free people", and I think that you know as good as me me how it REALLY works there.
So please....

This is so funny, he support the current Polish government and earns money from porn.
this stupid fuckers make soon porn illegal in Poland.
100% illegal abortion
illegal Sunday shopping
church all the times.
at least he will be able to tell the priest about all the dirty pictures in this forum.
what a hypocrite.

klinton 01-12-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22161903)
illegal Sunday shopping

it's in many EU countries...at least when it concerns big market chains, not small shops

as for the rest, I agree.

magneto664 01-12-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 22162008)
it's in many EU countries...at least when it concerns big market chains, not small shops

yee but reason is give a Sunday time for a family and religion, close shops on Sunday, but people in cinemas and petrol station will go anyway to work.
so we have two types of people.
the one who works in the shop and sells popcorn - he does not work on Saturday
the one who works at the cinema and sells popcorn - he works on Saturday.


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