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The Porn Nerd 01-26-2018 04:30 PM

If Richard Nixon Was President Today
 
If Richard Nixon was President today, and Watergate happened, would he skate or would he still resign?

I say he gets away with it and faces zero consequences. Thoughts?

Rochard 01-26-2018 04:31 PM

We would be in the same exact place....

Bladewire 01-26-2018 10:41 PM

Nixon was more of a man than Trump on his worst day.

Majority rules in the end and the majority voted Democrat for president and the majority is getting sick and tired of the lying orange monkey and his lying FoxNews clowns and we're going to fuck shit up sooner than later be warned :2 cents:

EonBlue 01-26-2018 11:38 PM

As a Republican he would still be busted.

However if he were a Democrat he could get away with murder.

CaptainHowdy 01-27-2018 07:16 AM

He would be the first zombie-president ...

seeandsee 01-27-2018 07:23 AM

he deserverd to go down

SuckOnThis 01-27-2018 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 22182649)
As a Republican he would still be busted.

However if he were a Democrat he could get away with murder.


If ignorance is bliss you must be one of the happiest people on the planet.

tony286 01-28-2018 01:30 PM

First he would be too liberal for right of today and never would of been elected. Under nixon we got npr and the epa.

Vendzilla 01-28-2018 08:42 PM

Considering democrats got a fisa warrant to spy on the trump tower, its pretty much the same thing

Vendzilla 01-28-2018 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22184707)
First he would be too liberal for right of today and never would of been elected. Under nixon we got npr and the epa.

NPR came later under Johnson.

Robbie 01-28-2018 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 22184707)
First he would be too liberal for right of today and never would of been elected. Under nixon we got npr and the epa.

Trump is the most liberal "Republican" President of your lifetime Tony.

There has never been a more liberal "Republican" President.
Total opposite of Bush.

And Nixon? He wasn't all that conservative...he just seemed that way because he was dealing with REAL liberals (the hippy anti-war and anti-govt movement) in the country.

But Trump isn't a "conservative" at all. Just listen to what the Republicans themselves said about him during the primaries.

In fact, Trump stands for many things that the Democrats stood for...until now.

ilnjscb 01-29-2018 05:13 AM

No he wouldn't resign today. In those days, the media had a lot of credibility. There were only a few outlets from which everyone got their news, and they could be swayed to a single cause.

Today with news outlets aligned by team, Nixon would have had cheerleaders and would have stuck it out. He would have been impeached perhaps but not removed, a la Clinton.

brassmonkey 01-29-2018 05:37 AM

he would be a vampire or alien? who gives a shit??

NewNick 01-29-2018 06:18 AM

Nixon should never have been president.

He conducted a treasonous campaign of collusion with a foreign power in order to influence an election and become president........he won the election with only 1% more votes.

Lyndon Johnson new about Nixons treachery and could have destroyed his campaign, but he failed to act because they all thought Nixon would not win.

Vietnam would have been over in 68.

ilnjscb 01-29-2018 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22185155)
Nixon should never have been president.

He conducted a treasonous campaign of collusion with a foreign power in order to influence an election and become president........he won the election with only 1% more votes.

Lyndon Johnson new about Nixons treachery and could have destroyed his campaign, but he failed to act because they all thought Nixon would not win.

Vietnam would have been over in 68.

Lyndon Johnson "knew", NewNick

in 1972 Richard Nixon defeated Democratic Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. ... Nixon won the election in a landslide, taking 60.7% of the popular vote and carrying 49 states, and he was the first Republican to sweep the South.

He was a quaker I think - ever met one of them? I have.

Vendzilla 01-29-2018 09:34 PM

Funny that someone thinks Nixon only won by a small margin, i remember as a kid what a huge landslide he won by. More idiots posting shit they kkow absolutely jack shit about.

The Porn Nerd 01-29-2018 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22185155)
Nixon should never have been president.

He conducted a treasonous campaign of collusion with a foreign power in order to influence an election and become president........he won the election with only 1% more votes.

Lyndon Johnson new about Nixons treachery and could have destroyed his campaign, but he failed to act because they all thought Nixon would not win.

Vietnam would have been over in 68.

Gee sounds a lot like today huh?
The Republicans play the same tactics over and over and no one ever catches on. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. (And yes, Democrats do their own version of rinse/repeat too.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22186001)
Lyndon Johnson "knew", NewNick

in 1972 Richard Nixon defeated Democratic Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. ... Nixon won the election in a landslide, taking 60.7% of the popular vote and carrying 49 states, and he was the first Republican to sweep the South.

He was a quaker I think - ever met one of them? I have.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22186009)
Funny that someone thinks Nixon only won by a small margin, i remember as a kid what a huge landslide he won by. More idiots posting shit they kkow absolutely jack shit about.

Um, he was talking about 1968, not 1972. Nixon was elected in 1968 and RE-elected in 1972.

Of the 1968 Presidential Election Wikipedia says: "Nixon won a plurality of the popular vote by a narrow margin, but won by a large margin in the Electoral College, carrying most states outside of the Northeast."

So again I say: sounds familiar. LOL

Bladewire 01-29-2018 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22186009)
Funny that someone thinks Nixon only won by a small margin, i remember as a kid what a huge landslide he won by. More idiots posting shit they kkow absolutely jack shit about.

20% of Republicans still supported Nixon the day he stepped down, that's how completely stupid and brainless they are.

NewNick 01-30-2018 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 22186001)
Lyndon Johnson "knew", NewNick

in 1972 Richard Nixon defeated Democratic Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. ... Nixon won the election in a landslide, taking 60.7% of the popular vote and carrying 49 states, and he was the first Republican to sweep the South.

He was a quaker I think - ever met one of them? I have.

Yes Johnson was fully aware of what Nixon was doing.

Johnson knew that Nixon had struck a deal with the South Vietnamese leadership to wreak the peace talks by offering them better terms when he became president.

This is all a matter of public record and treasonous.


The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon's 'treason' - BBC News

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/u...otes-show.html

:thumbsup

NewNick 01-30-2018 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22186009)
Funny that someone thinks Nixon only won by a small margin, i remember as a kid what a huge landslide he won by. More idiots posting shit they kkow absolutely jack shit about.

Right.

He won by less than 1% of the popular vote.

:thumbsup

2MuchMark 01-30-2018 09:15 AM

Same place.

Nixon was busted, just like Trump will soon be busted.

2MuchMark 01-30-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22184895)
Considering democrats got a fisa warrant to spy on the trump tower, its pretty much the same thing


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2MuchMark 01-30-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22182625)
Nixon was more of a man than Trump on his worst day.
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Actually, I'd give Trump a slight edge here, and say Nixon might be worse than Trump. Google what was just came out recently about the Vietnam war and Nixon. It's sickening. How Nixon Prolonged The Vietnam War, And Why He Did It

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 22183003)
he deserverd to go down

Agreed. I don't understand why Ford let him off the hook though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22184931)
Trump is the most liberal "Republican" President of your lifetime Tony.

That's a weird statement, and it has me thinking. I would not call him Liberal at all. At the same time, he is definitely not a republican. All of his bombastic showboating aside, I do not see how a republican voter would ever even consider Trump.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 22184931)
But Trump isn't a "conservative" at all. Just listen to what the Republicans themselves said about him during the primaries..

Honest question (Please don't hate me, I just want to know): Do you as a republican, wish that Trump had not become the republican nominee? Maybe you preferred Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or one of the others?

Don't get me wrong - I know that you like some of the things that Trump has said and done so far. My question is kind of, Did you, a republican, vote for a person who is not a republican?

When I see Trump, I don't see a republican at all. I don't know what I see, but I don't think I see republican.


Quote:

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 22185155)
Nixon should never have been president.

He conducted a treasonous campaign of collusion with a foreign power in order to influence an election and become president........he won the election with only 1% more votes.

Lyndon Johnson new about Nixons treachery and could have destroyed his campaign, but he failed to act because they all thought Nixon would not win.

Vietnam would have been over in 68.

You're right about what he did, but wrong about the spread. Nixon won 301 Electoral votes vs 191 against Humphrey in 1968, and 520 to 17 again McGovern in 1972. And yes, Vietnam would have been over in 68 if it weren't for Nixon.

The Porn Nerd 01-30-2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22186443)
You're right about what he did, but wrong about the spread. Nixon won 301 Electoral votes vs 191 against Humphrey in 1968, and 520 to 17 again McGovern in 1972. And yes, Vietnam would have been over in 68 if it weren't for Nixon.

That's the Electoral College, not the popular vote. He barely won the popular vote (and probably because the majority of Baby Boomers could not vote yet in 1968).

Robbie 01-30-2018 10:29 AM

I'm not now and never was a "Republican" Mark.
I was a registered Democrat until 2012, then I switched to Libertarian after a lifetime of lies from Republicans & Democrats.
I think Trump saved this country from the bureaucratic establishment and I hope he can keep it up.
It's scary to me to realize that a 71 year old Trump is up there all alone fighting the power of the establishment Republicans, Democrats, and the media.
The guy is a hero in my book.

ilnjscb 01-30-2018 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 22186061)
Gee sounds a lot like today huh?
The Republicans play the same tactics over and over and no one ever catches on. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. (And yes, Democrats do their own version of rinse/repeat too.)





Um, he was talking about 1968, not 1972. Nixon was elected in 1968 and RE-elected in 1972.

Of the 1968 Presidential Election Wikipedia says: "Nixon won a plurality of the popular vote by a narrow margin, but won by a large margin in the Electoral College, carrying most states outside of the Northeast."

So again I say: sounds familiar. LOL

Well aware, I pointed out the re-election landslide as food for thought. Nixon's "collusion with a foreign power" came about as a result of the Farrell book "Richard Nixon: The Life"

Here's more data and a counterpoint, if you care about such things:

Don't Blame Nixon for Scuttled Peace Overture

SuckOnThis 01-30-2018 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 22186009)
Funny that someone thinks Nixon only won by a small margin, i remember as a kid what a huge landslide he won by. More idiots posting shit they kkow absolutely jack shit about.

Hey look, its Dildo thinking he has special insight to Nixon!


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