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Paul Markham 02-23-2018 12:21 AM

Armed guard at Florida high school failed to enter building and stop shooter
 
Armed guard at Florida high school failed to enter building and stop shooter

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The armed deputy who was on campus at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school when a gunman massacred 17 people stood outside the building as it occurred and did not go in to engage the shooter, the Broward County sheriff, Scott Israel, said on Thursday.

Deputy Scott Peterson, who was the school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas in Parkland, Florida, resigned from the department on Thursday after being told he would be suspended, Israel said.
Another great idea hits the dirt.

People who think armed guards are the solution are relying on a man with a pistol winning a shootout with a kid with a semi-automatic rifle and a load of ammunition and possibly other arms.

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2018 02:45 AM

for this plan to work you would need at least 10 men split in to groups, patrolling the school with assault rifles...

it would be the NRA-s wet dream, to get those kids nice and scared so that they become good customers when they grow up and they stock the fuck up on as many guns as possible...

then we would need armed guards on the street and at shopping malls and in theaters and basically anywhere...

guns guns guns! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

only in america do you put out a fire with fire...

Roald 02-23-2018 03:15 AM


NewNick 02-23-2018 06:57 AM

I could support the idea of arming teachers etc in the short term as long as there was a plan to tackle the bigger picture.

So certainly in the short term make the schools safe as there is an immediate threat from a population that is armed to the teeth whatever their mental state - but in the long term you have to tackle the bigger picture. Stop crazy people from owning guns, stop teenagers from owning guns, put a huge tax on ammunition, ban automatic and semi automatic weapons, and generally remove the reliance on penis extensions in your society.

blackmonsters 02-23-2018 07:00 AM

That armed guard was like a join link on a Paul Markham pay site.

12clicks 02-23-2018 07:01 AM

its cute how society's bottom believes the government's failure to protect the public means you should disarm the public

blackmonsters 02-23-2018 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 22217091)
its cute how society's bottom believes the government's failure to protect the public means you should disarm the public

His parents let him stack those guns up even though he's a nutter; not the government.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:14 AM

He wasn't just a guard. He was an actual police officer.... He stood down.....

crockett 02-23-2018 07:14 AM

I think it's kinda fucked they are trashing this guy. 4 minutes is not a lot of time. It's easy to second guess someone who had a pistol a d has to confront a guy with an assault riffle.. I'm sure all the internet hero's would instantly rush right in with out a plan and having no idea how many gun men there were..

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22217107)
I think it's kinda fucked they are trashing this guy. 4 minutes is not a lot of time. It's easy to second guess someone who had a pistol a d has to confront a guy with an assault riffle.. I'm sure all the internet hero's would rush right in with out a plan..

Defending a spineless coward.. Not surprising. Teenagers took bullets for other students while this piece of shit sat in the safety of his patrol car. I personally want to HANG him myself.

beerptrol 02-23-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217111)
Defending a spineless coward.. Not surprising. Teenagers took bullets for other students while this piece of shit sat in the safety of his patrol car. I personally want to HANG him myself.

Says the guy who defends the spineless coward Chump

magneto664 02-23-2018 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217103)
He wasn't just a guard. He was an actual police officer.... He stood down.....

Shut up!
Wait for the official version of the conspiracy theory from Russia.
It will be more credible for you.
I bet the bodyguard was a reptilian who scared the sun.
100% reliable for me.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22217113)
Says the guy who defends the spineless coward Chump

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onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22217117)
Shut up!
Wait for the official version of the conspiracy theory from Russia.
It will be more credible for you.
I bet the bodyguard was a reptilian who scared the sun.
100% reliable for me.

http://www.patriotinstitute.org/wp-c.../Tolerance.jpg

beerptrol 02-23-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217119)

Don't you have some more victims you should be attacking with your fake alt right bullshit. Chump is a spineless coward and so are you russian loving trolls

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22217137)
Don't you have some more victims you should be attacking with your fake alt right bullshit. Chump is a spineless coward and so are you russian loving trolls

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onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:40 AM

Florida shooting: Bullets flew for 4 minutes as armed deputy waited outside
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/us/fl...ing/index.html

WHO CHANGED THE TIME ON THE CAMERAS?

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2018 07:43 AM

well you got to hand it to the USA they have at least made massive moves towards equality...like 60 years ago only black kids needed military escort to school, now all kids need it :2 cents:

blackmonsters 02-23-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22217149)
well you got to hand it to the USA they have at least made massive moves towards equality...like 60 years ago only black kids needed military escort to school, now all kids need it :2 cents:

Touche!


:2 cents:

magneto664 02-23-2018 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217143)
WHO CHANGED THE TIME ON THE CAMERAS?

you see moron.
10 minutes and you're already in a conspiracy theory

I will tell you who changed the time - Janne McPhee changed the time. she lived in Devon. Hallwill on Larch street. number 6.

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by magneto664 (Post 22217159)
you see moron.
10 minutes and you're already in a conspiracy theory

I will tell you who changed the time - Janne McPhee changed the time. she lived in Devon. Hallwill on Larch street. number 6.

WRONG I've been on it since Day 1. I was right then and still am. :thumbsup

RedFred 02-23-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217143)
Florida shooting: Bullets flew for 4 minutes as armed deputy waited outside
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/us/fl...ing/index.html

WHO CHANGED THE TIME ON THE CAMERAS?

When the fuck do you sleep???

You are literally on here posting bullshit from 5AM to 1AM without a break everyday. How is that even possible??

crockett 02-23-2018 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217111)
Defending a spineless coward.. Not surprising. Teenagers took bullets for other students while this piece of shit sat in the safety of his patrol car. I personally want to HANG him myself.

Says the guy who defends the guy who didn't go to Vietnam because he had a bone spur...

crockett 02-23-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22217187)
When the fuck do you sleep???

You are literally on here posting bullshit from 5AM to 1AM without a break everyday. How is that even possible??

He's a paid Russian troll.. He gets his $700 a month to spend his days here..

MaDalton 02-23-2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22217187)
When the fuck do you sleep???

You are literally on here posting bullshit from 5AM to 1AM without a break everyday. How is that even possible??

the same way mysteriously chat accounts are always online...

tony286 02-23-2018 09:15 AM

But wait the good guy with a gun always wins.

PR_Glen 02-23-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 22217091)
its cute how society's bottom believes the government's failure to protect the public means you should disarm the public

I am not sure that is the argument here though. Sure, some extremists will be saying that but MOST are just arguing against the ease of purchasing assault type weaponry. I don't think adding background checks for those kinds of weapons is too intrusive. Costly maybe, but if it can potentially limit these things from happening then I don't see a down side personally.

Scrapper 02-23-2018 09:27 AM

Hey Paul, Edward L. Bernays & Walter Lippmann would be proud with a title like that. An "Armed deputy" decided he wanted to be a pussy. Not a security guard.

BaldBastard 02-23-2018 09:52 AM

Who in their right mind would take on someone armed with an Ar15 with a pistol?.

By law I'd guess he can't go in until back up arrives, I pity anyone whose a cop in the USA

I don't understand why the Government doesn't just tax the fuck out of guns in America, then you will have the money and the resources to do something, even if it's 10 security guards in every school.

Bladewire 02-23-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217111)
Defending a spineless coward.. Not surprising. Teenagers took bullets for other students while this piece of shit sat in the safety of his patrol car. I personally want to HANG him myself.

You're an alt-right foreigner, in a foreign country, who says trump is innocent until proven guilty yet you crusify a cop on site for not taking action over a 4 minute period. Maybe he didn't hear the shooting from the far distance that he was at. Maybe he didn't get any notifications on his Communications device. Maybe he thought it was a false alarm because they had just finished having a drill. Maybe he was standing where he was trained to be stationed when alarms go off.

Regardless your Foreigner that sticks your nose in American business here every single fucking day in every single fucking thread for one reason, to cause conflict & anger. It's not like you're a foreigner that is genuinely interested in anything about America. You want America to fail so you try to cause conflict and be divisive everyday in every thread that's different from a normal Foreigner participating in conversations about America here.
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blackmonsters 02-23-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22217201)
He's a paid Russian troll.. He gets his $700 a month to spend his days here..

:2 cents:

celandina 02-23-2018 10:40 AM

This librarian does not need AR 15 to stop and male teenager shooter. Get more of them in each high school:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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celandina 02-23-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22217107)
I think it's kinda fucked they are trashing this guy. 4 minutes is not a lot of time. It's easy to second guess someone who had a pistol a d has to confront a guy with an assault riffle.. I'm sure all the internet hero's would instantly rush right in with out a plan and having no idea how many gun men there were..


I prefect example of Trump's lunatic plan....:2 cents:

Bladewire 02-23-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22217327)
Who in their right mind would take on someone armed with an Ar15 with a pistol?.

By law I'd guess he can't go in until back up arrives, I pity anyone whose a cop in the USA

I don't understand why the Government doesn't just tax the fuck out of guns in America, then you will have the money and the resources to do something, even if it's 10 security guards in every school.

Yeah they have no problem taxing the fuck out of alcohol, cigarettes, gas, electricity and marijuana :1orglaugh AR15's and other military grade Firearms should be taxed at least 100% to cover the cost of the damage they do in society with these mass shootings.

Freedom isn't free!

TheDynasty 02-23-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22217405)
This librarian does not need AR 15 to stop and male teenager shooter. Get more of them in each high school:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://media1.giphy.com/media/vuyMxrhyZGB1K/200_d.gif

:jerkoff :jerkoff

MsCheyenne 02-23-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22216823)
Armed guard at Florida high school failed to enter building and stop shooter



Another great idea hits the dirt.

People who think armed guards are the solution are relying on a man with a pistol winning a shootout with a kid with a semi-automatic rifle and a load of ammunition and possibly other arms.

Why even pay a guy to be there if the wasn't equipped and, willing to protect? What was the school's point in paying for that? A 15 year old boy, who is hospitalized but will likely survive, got students into a classroom and, used his body as a shield behind the locked door. He didn't have a weapon or formal training. It wasn't his well paid job to do this. I can't help but have pity for the deputy, who had a pistol with 15 rounds in it, for cowarding out. He'll never be able to take that back. All of this said, it has been a whopping 19 years since Columbine. Why haven't precautions and, actions been taken to prevent this? The people of this country have allowed themselves to become so polarized they can't see clear to work this out. Pull 20 random strangers off the street and, put them in a room together - they'd be able to come up with a common sense solution. Put absurdly overpaid, do nothing politicians in office and, in 19 years - nothing.

DBS.US 02-23-2018 06:55 PM

Seek cover, call for back up, wait for back up. LAPD Rule 1,2,& 3

mce 02-23-2018 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 22217087)
That armed guard was like a join link on a Paul Markham pay site.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

onwebcam 02-23-2018 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred (Post 22217187)
When the fuck do you sleep???

You are literally on here posting bullshit from 5AM to 1AM without a break everyday. How is that even possible??

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22217201)
He's a paid Russian troll.. He gets his $700 a month to spend his days here..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22217339)
You're an alt-right foreigner, in a foreign country, who says trump is innocent until proven guilty yet you crusify a cop on site for not taking action over a 4 minute period. Maybe he didn't hear the shooting from the far distance that he was at. Maybe he didn't get any notifications on his Communications device. Maybe he thought it was a false alarm because they had just finished having a drill. Maybe he was standing where he was trained to be stationed when alarms go off.

Regardless your Foreigner that sticks your nose in American business here every single fucking day in every single fucking thread for one reason, to cause conflict & anger. It's not like you're a foreigner that is genuinely interested in anything about America. You want America to fail so you try to cause conflict and be divisive everyday in every thread that's different from a normal Foreigner participating in conversations about America here.



Dear mentally special persons, not even Russia would waste $700 on you fucks.

Look Chang 02-23-2018 07:11 PM

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Paul Markham 02-24-2018 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 22217091)
its cute how society's bottom believes the government's failure to protect the public means you should disarm the public

So do think the Government should protect every public place with properly armed guards like they have at airports?

You do realise that you as a taxpayer would fund it. Or are you in favour of taxing guns so the gun owners pay for it?

Another stupid statement from 12clunks.

Paul Markham 02-24-2018 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22217107)
I think it's kinda fucked they are trashing this guy. 4 minutes is not a lot of time. It's easy to second guess someone who had a pistol a d has to confront a guy with an assault riffle.. I'm sure all the internet hero's would instantly rush right in with out a plan and having no idea how many gun men there were..

Would you go rushing into a building that had semi-automatic fire coming from it, armed with a pistol?

There are a lot of dead heroes who accomplished nothing.

Paul Markham 02-24-2018 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22217327)
Who in their right mind would take on someone armed with an Ar15 with a pistol?.

By law I'd guess he can't go in until back up arrives, I pity anyone whose a cop in the USA

I don't understand why the Government doesn't just tax the fuck out of guns in America, then you will have the money and the resources to do something, even if it's 10 security guards in every school.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22217415)
Yeah they have no problem taxing the fuck out of alcohol, cigarettes, gas, electricity and marijuana :1orglaugh AR15's and other military grade Firearms should be taxed at least 100% to cover the cost of the damage they do in society with these mass shootings.

Freedom isn't free!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Don't forget malls, stadiums from the largest to the smallest and anywhere that may get hit by a dumb ass with a gun. Don't move the problem from schools to other public places. Remover the problem altogether. Take guns out of the hands of all but qualify to use them.

Paul Markham 02-24-2018 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22217339)
You're an alt-right foreigner, in a foreign country, who says trump is innocent until proven guilty

Innocent till proven guilty is the law of the land.

Bladewire 02-24-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22218049)
Innocent till proven guilty is the law of the land.

Not in your country. Your country states guilty until proven innocent based on 'maximum probability' that they committed the crime.

You're a foreigner, in a foreign country, telling me I have to think your lord Trump is innocent until the slow wheels of justice do their thing officially. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The judge and jury have to maintain innocent until proven guilty nobody else. You have Trump lying all day everyday calling real news fake, that should be a crime.

The Porn Nerd 02-24-2018 01:29 PM

How anyone could stay outside, hearing gunshots and people screaming for four minutes, with a gun at his side (ANY kind of gun) and not rush in and try to do something is beyond me. It's cowardice, plain and simple. But many, many police officers and armed guards, while being highly trained in the use of firearms, never actually unholster their weapon for any reason while on duty.

So it's understandable cowardice but it's still cowardice. Fuck procedure.

astronaut x 02-24-2018 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 22217111)
Defending a spineless coward.. Not surprising. Teenagers took bullets for other students while this piece of shit sat in the safety of his patrol car. I personally want to HANG him myself.

He was not defending him. He is basically saying that armed guards are not a solution.

You wouldn't understand.

NewNick 02-24-2018 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 22217299)
I am not sure that is the argument here though. Sure, some extremists will be saying that but MOST are just arguing against the ease of purchasing assault type weaponry. I don't think adding background checks for those kinds of weapons is too intrusive. Costly maybe, but if it can potentially limit these things from happening then I don't see a down side personally.

You do know who you are arguing with ?

How this cock sucker is not in jail never ceases to amaze me.

Few people have rinsed more cards in the history of internet billing than your boy 12 clicks.

Now openly touting for chat traffic FFS.

:helpme

SilentKnight 02-24-2018 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22218043)
Would you go rushing into a building that had semi-automatic fire coming from it, armed with a pistol?

There are a lot of dead heroes who accomplished nothing.

Kevin Vickers.

Google him.

EonBlue 02-24-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 22218047)
Take guns out of the hands of all but qualify to use them.

How you propose to get them out of the hands of criminals?

You will just be taking them mostly from law-abiding citizens who will now be sitting ducks for criminals.

If you disarm the general populace in the US the crime rate will increase drastically.




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