American GFYers: What needs to HAPPEN for YOU (yes YOU) to vote LIBERTARIAN?
 

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Well?

Someone would have to put a collar bomb on me to force me to walk into a voting booth and vote libertarian.

While I have voted for the Libertarian candidate in the last two elections, I did so mostly just hoping to help a legit third party get some footing. However, I understand that true Libertarian ideals can't really work for a large group of people so it would be a mess to try to lead this country using them.

What I would like to see is an actual moderate party that isn't controlled by it's crazy base.

I've only voted once and I voted for Trump because EVERYONE HATED HIM. Even his own party was against him. Honestly I've only figured out the difference between Democrats and Republicans during the past couple years.

In elementary school we learned about white collar and blue collar workers. If you're poor you vote Democrat and if you're rich you vote Republican was what our teacher told us. I guess that's how it was back then.

I still consider myself an Anarchist because I hate corporate fascism as much as I hate government control. While I agree with a lot of things on the left, I also agree with a lot of things on the right. Maybe I still don't know the true meaning of any of these labels.

This is an impossibility.

Though people in the middle can be swayed a little to the left or right depending on the circumstances and candidate, you can't sway either that far away from center as it gets more to how people process moral questions.

More than anything and libertarians place an inordinately high value on what is described as freedom from oppression and liberty... and gives little to zero value to those other moral questions which left/right value to different degrees.

For example, I like Robbie but he's the only example I can think of. He'll argue that all drugs should be legal but ignore completely the massive societal costs and harm done. Not because he doesn't "care" per se, but because it's not factored into his thinking. Or for example Rand Paul can say things like "we need to abolish the department of education" and no libertarian bats an eye and asks "what do we replace it with" or "how exactly is that going to work?" because the mental processing stops more or less at "get rid of government organization. A Liberal or Conservative would be thinking "we need to improve this department" and having different ideas on how as they also see the problem slightly differently. But neither would ever get to "abolish it and forget about it".

Just as a Conservative places a high value on loyalty to the group (patriotism, symbolism, group rules etc) and Liberals burn flags, mock these behaviors etc and a Libertarian will have little opinion on the behavior of either sides views since its not a factor in their own world view.

This is neither good or bad. It's how we all view things, its why the arguments exist and the arguments define the center. These different ways of seeing things are the product of group selection and evolutionary biology.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't an anarchist not agree with anything any government party stood for?

I believe in government. I believe in law and order. I don't believe in what we have now which is a bunch of rich fucks getting paid to control our lives. I don't think any government position should get paid.

Libertarian is really no difference than Republicans as far as the few who are in elected positions. Sure they "claim" they are different, but they vote right with Republicans down party lines on everything.

Now the hardcore libertarians of which none have ever been elected to federal govt.. IMO they live in fairyland. They read Ayn Rand too many times and live in some fictional wonderland..


What we need are moderates not more fringe groups. I'd like to see a mix of fiscal responsibility paired social responsibility from our govt..

So. . . then. . . not an anarchist.

Which of his own party was against him?

Lol! All of them. :)

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Always have. I need to register in this town as I moved. I didn't do it for any reason other than the candidates sucked my first time voting. The libertarian was someone I agreed with and I kept voting that way.

I used to campaign for a local councillor. He was an uncle by marriage to a distant cousin. At 14 he kept rubbing my ass instead of my shoulder at his victory party at his house. I left and quit helping out. Two years later I told my mom. She confronted the 80-year oldster, yelled, and then told a clergy member. He, in turn, told everyone about it, and the guy was shunned. Other women said he did it when they were younger.

Politicians are not to be trusted.