even more scientific proof: We are alone in the Universe. Drake Equation Solved
 

Hi, I'm dyna mo, you may know me from my other threads such as

fact: There is no other intelligent life in the entire universe. [proofed]
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-p...e-proofed.html

and

more science proof: We are the only intelligent life in the Universe - the Gaian Bottleneck
https://m.gfy.com/fucking-around-and...ottleneck.html

Now, a ground breaking science paper has been published solving the Drake Equation and dissolving Fermi's Paradox

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.02404.pdf

"When the model is recast to represent realistic distributions of uncertainty, we find a substantial ex ante probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe, and thus that there should be little surprise when we fail to detect any signs of it.
This result dissolves the Fermi paradox, and in doing so removes any need to invoke speculative mechanisms by which civilizations would inevitably fail to have observable effects upon the universe."

That's entirely possible.

The earth is on a gently tilted access, which gives rise to seasons and weather changes, which in turns allows evolution and competitive strategy. Very rare.

Jupiter keeps many large bodies from impacting Earth. Rare.

The sun is at an optimum distance. Rare.

Our temperature and atmosphere have been relatively stable for over a billion years. Very rare.

Multicellular creatures evolved. Very rare.

Earth has one large moon. Rare.

Our solar system is on an outer arm of the galaxy. No nearby stars affect us. No galactic phenomena threaten us. Very rare.

"We" are in one 100,000 year period in over 3.8 billion. 1 in 38,000. No guarantees we survive ourselves. Very rare.

Odds of meeting us, 10 American sextillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) to 1. Since there are maybe 1 sextillion stars in the observable universe it stands that we could be alone.

How sad, a bunch of fuckups like humanity, holding the bag. I hope to hell we survive and get into space.

dyna mo, i like you man but ive had way to many to read all that shit haha :stoned

You're one of the most reasonable thinkers posting on GFY. :thumbsup

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schmoke a big fat bowl and just read the abstract! You'll see! :thumbsup

Abstract is fact.. seeing all kinds ah shit right now YO!!

Well, the Big Bang is science. Its when all matter was created.

Matter is entangled with consciousness, as the Double Slit test proves (also science). Matter must have been created that way. I don't see the sense in matter just deciding billions of years later to entangle itself with consciousness, when conscious beings finally began to evolve.

So the big question is, what consciousness was there when the Big Bang happened? There wasn't even any fucking matter for anything to fucking be alive, let alone have fucking consciousness.

Unless.... no I don't even want to go there. We're alone in the universe because I said so. So there! And if you dare to disagree with what I say, then you're a universe-ist.

I disagree with many of your points.

Jupiter keeps many large bodies from impacting Earth. Rare.
- Most exoplanets that have been discovered are huge gas giants just like jupiter

The sun is at an optimum distance. Rare.
- Many exoplanets have been discovered that are in the goldilocks zone

Our temperature and atmosphere have been relatively stable for over a billion years. Very rare.
- We can't say if this is rare or not, given that we haven't been able to study another planet outside our solar-system to the extent we have earth.

Multicellular creatures evolved. Very rare.
- Again, we cannot say if this is rare or not.

Earth has one large moon. Rare.
- I don't see how having only 1 moon makes or breaks life. Mars is said to once have been habitable but has several.

Our solar system is on an outer arm of the galaxy. No nearby stars affect us. No galactic phenomena threaten us. Very rare.
- Again, we cannot say how rare and we also cannot say how common "galatic phenomena is" given that there's stuff that might happen once per billion years.

A proof? Really? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

oh your a daring cam trans :winkwink:

the drake equation is a joke...it is the intellectual equivalent of a fish in the ocean searching for advanced civilizations, for a single minute, by looking for indian smoke signals, under the ocean, 500 years too late...

how long did it take humanity to develop long distance detectable communication? first radio signal was like 120 years ago...since then we have developed and we are now using things like quantum radars to get information that seems to be travelling faster than light...in 100 years I bet none of the inferior and detectable forms of transmitting data will be in use at all...just like indian smoke signals...

it is such a short period of time to look for smoke signals or radio waves that humans looking for current human tech equivalent signals in space is the same as trying to hit a bullet with another bullet by firing in random directions and not knowing if the other bullet will be fired at all...


drake was a nut sucker :2 cents:

Native American smoke signals, otherwise I completely agree with you.

There are only three solutions:

-There is life somewhere in the galaxy on a lower development level (max animals), so they can't reach us.
-There is life somewhere in the galaxy on the same level as we, so we can't reach each other.
-There is life somewhere in the galaxy on a much higher level as we, they see what are we doing here, and don't want to make any connection with us.

It's my theory

Oh, so I can promote everyone except trans, huh? What are you, some kind of transistor?

I already knew that when I've read Plato's "Timaeus" . . .

Name any other thing in the universe that there is just one of.

ME!!!!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Exactly!

We are not alone

Considering that neuroscience right now cannot explain consciousness and what the "conscious" you is exactly (apart from the speculation of it being an emergent property resulting from the convergence of multiple unconscious mental processes), I highly doubt whatever blog your reading on the latest in metaphysics, pyramid power, veganism and healing crystals have a stronger grasp on it.

considering the stupidity of humans one can only hope that we are unique...

that's an easy question.

the first star when it was born was the only star

the first galaxy when it was formed was the only galaxy

the first planet when it was shaped was the only planet

the first black hole was the only black hole

etc. et al on&on.

there's only 1 of something when it's the first ONE.

in fact, there's only one universe in the universe.

Well here's the thing: our axis is tilted, as noted, causing seasons. We have a condusive atmosphere. But the biggest reason "we are here"?

The Moon.

Our Moon is hollow (it clanged like a bell when an object was dropped on it), is made of material NOT from the Earth (thus eliminating the "moon was created after a meteor hit the Earth" theory) and is significantly older than the Earth. Therefore, life could not exist without another Moon-like satellite controlling tides etc. So far we have not found anything like our Moon anywhere else in the Universe.

Conclusion: the Moon was brought here and put into orbit. Probably by a soon-to-be-extinct race of people(s), perhaps from Mars. We never see the dark side of the Moon and that's where the most evidence for this theory exists.

I buy it completely. We ARE alone - sort of - and being genetically modified at certain key points of our development by whoever the fuck is up there hiding out (and observing us) from inside the Moon.

Yes, this makes me, technically-speaking, a "lunatic". LOL

Stars formed one by one instead of simultaneously? Who told you that?

Galaxies formed one by one instead of simultaneously? Who told you that?

Planets formed one by one instead of simultaneously? Who told you that?

Black holes formed one by one instead of simultaneously? Who told you that?

There is only one universe? Who told you that?

here's a picture

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5688/2...217aab26_b.jpg

you think stars, galaxies, planets, and black holes formed simultaneously.


you think there's a universe inside the universe.



got it.

You think a guy formed one star, went on to the next star, and so on and so on until there were billions. He then went on to make one galaxy, then went onto the next, and so on until there were billions.

Got it.

a guy? wtf. no there was no "guy".


with your logic that there's more than one of everything in the universe, because, well, the universe, means there were multiple big bangs.

you're also discounting time in your assumptions. you can't grasp the amount of time involved in the universe and the amount of time involved in creation. the timeline is in billions and billions of years. intelligent life has been around how long?

A girl?

Talk about assumptions. You're the queen of assumptions.

BTW, you do realize nebulas create millions of stars at a time, not just one. Or do you think they make one star at a time.

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at least I'm the one starting threads about subjects that are enjoyable to me. I come across confident to you and that's upsetting to you, I'm used to people like you.

I'm simply enjoying the holiday and exploring a fun to me topic, you're offended by that and are lashing out.

you can try and weaponize that against me all day long, I could not care less.


try and enjoy the holiday today, no need to attack some guy on GFY for a thread about intelligent life in the universe.

Don't go getting defensive now. Not my fault you think everything in the universe was created one at a time.

I remember these threads from you.. and you never seem to understand the difference between theoreticals and a proof. If someone rights a paper trying to prove this or that without hard evidence and uses hypotheticals and assumptions? It remains theoretical.

I appreciate the effort but it's a major mis representation of fermi or drake.

Since when the other side of the Moon is dark? :error

huh? you just stated that everything was created simultaneously.

I'm the one pointing out to you how dumb that is.

perhaps you should look up the word "simultaneous".

you seem to not get I'm having fun with these threads. I like challenging people's assuming it's a fact we are not alone. YOU don't realize YOU don't have a proof of that.

and btw lighten up, if not, don't try to be a party pooper.

of course the fucking theory isn't proven. fucking duh.

No, I was countering your first star statement, which is completely stupid. Knowing you I bet you're going to spend the rest of the day stammering that nebulae only creates one star at a time, and that there is some mysterious force in the universe that only allows objects to form one at a time throughout the whole universe.

you're even more confused than you think I think you are.

again, you're the guy who declared all things in the Universe were created simultaneously and there is not just 1 of anything, because you know, the Universe.

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Okay genius, back to the original point. Name something in the universe there is only one of.

That is Plato's Parmenides . . .

I am unique

No. the original point is the Drake equation was solved, it's in the title.

And you don't understand how this works. I've already posted the scientific paper that dissolves Drake's equation, you disagree with their findings, you're the one that needs to support your disagreeing with that beyond exclaiming just because the Universe.


there's only one of you. are you really trying to get me to believe there's more than one of you, because, you know, the Universe?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/ea...ea16773516.jpg


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There are over 7 billion people on earth, are you saying I'm the only one? Next are you going to argue there is only one earth even though there are over 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the observable universe?

Weak. Although it's better than your first star answer. Well, maybe not.

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I see you dodged the fact you can't reply to the scientific conclusions I've provided.

but that's to be expected, you're the guy who thinks everything in the Universe was created simultaneously. :1orglaugh

I can't imagine any sense in all the bullshit we talk and do.

what's weird is if you knew wtf you're talking about, you'd post supporting evidence that there is not 1 of anything in the Universe and there never has been. you don't and you can't because that's bullshit.

The dipshit posts there is scientific proof we are alone, tells others they don't know wtf they are talking about.

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wow, calling me names over a fun thread on the 4th of july. we're all glad there's only 1 of you.

Your next threads title should read

scientific proof: I am alone in my Universe.

For the sake of stats we're all unique . . .