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2MuchMark 02-19-2019 06:03 AM

Fuck Trump and his EPA
 
Every day its yet another shitshow.


Quote:

Trump EPA OKs 'Emergency' to Dump Bee-Killing Pesticide on 16 Million Acres

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) reported last week that in 2018 it issued so-called "emergency" approvals to spray sulfoxaflor—an insecticide the agency considers "very highly toxic" to bees—on more than 16 million acres of crops known to attract bees.

Of the 18 states where the approvals were granted for sorghum and cotton crops, 12 have been given the approvals for at least four consecutive years for the same "emergency."

Last year the EPA's Office of the Inspector General released a report finding that the agency's practice of routinely granting "emergency" approval for pesticides across millions of acres does not effectively measure risks to human health or the environment.

"Spraying 16 million acres of bee-attractive crops with a bee-killing pesticide in a time of global insect decline is beyond the pale, even for the Trump administration," said Nathan Donley, a senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity. "The EPA is routinely misusing the 'emergency' process to get sulfoxaflor approved because it's too toxic to make it through normal pesticide reviews."
Full fucking story at https://www.ecowatch.com/trump-epa-p...j2Ik9U9Ki7b0HE

beerptrol 02-19-2019 06:04 AM

"The EPA is routinely misusing the 'emergency' process to get sulfoxaflor approved because it's too toxic to make it through normal pesticide reviews." #maga #winning

Busty2 02-19-2019 06:46 AM

That cunt will destroy America before he is finished and possible harm the rest of the world with his ill-informed and uneducated actions :321GFY

BaldBastard 02-19-2019 07:10 AM

Its all fun and games until China decides that its not, hence why small counties like New Zealand can have a free trade policy with China, we don't buy their shit and they can't buy enough of ours.

2MuchMark 02-19-2019 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 22418720)
"The EPA is routinely misusing the 'emergency' process to get sulfoxaflor approved because it's too toxic to make it through normal pesticide reviews." #maga #winning

I like your avatar. Goddammit Trump makes me sick.

Acepimp 02-19-2019 07:31 AM

LOL @ foreigners meddling in US politics.

Say hello to Justin Trudeau, the world's newest oil executive

The Canadian prime minister presents himself as a climate hero. By promising to nationalise the Kinder Morgan pipeline, he reveals his true self

If Trump was a progressive lefty beta-cuck, I suspect Mark wouldn't be complaining :1orglaugh

aimike 02-19-2019 08:59 AM

don't worry.. the Bee's will be ok.

OneHungLo 02-19-2019 09:10 AM

As Acepimp pointed out..

Quote:

Lots of carbon: Trudeau told oil executives last year that “no country would find 173bn barrels of oil in the ground and just leave it there”. That’s apparently how much he plans to dig up and burn – and if he’s successful, the one half of 1% of the planet that is Canadian will have awarded to itself almost one-third of the remaining carbon budget between us and the 1.5 degree rise in temperature the planet drew as a red line in Paris. There’s no way of spinning the math that makes that okay – Canadians already emit more carbon per capita than Americans. Hell, than Saudi Arabians.
Mark, what is this? Do as I say not as I do? How come we never see you criticizing your butt boy Trudeau ?

directfiesta 02-19-2019 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22418759)
LOL @ foreigners meddling in US politics.

stay out of Venezuela politics .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Rochard 02-19-2019 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22418800)
don't worry.. the Bee's will be ok.

No, they won't.

Bees are dying off in record numbers across the country.

https://www.wctv.tv/content/news/Hon...505867891.html

aimike 02-19-2019 10:05 AM

who cares

pimpmaster9000 02-19-2019 10:21 AM

I have commercial greenhouses and use been for pollination...let me tell you this: you are SO fucked when you kill off the bees...you will be forced to spend billions on manual pollination and it is a BITCH...a B I T C H...the ecosystem is like a giant jenga tower...pull one crucial brick out and you are fuuuuuucked...

the problem with the USA is that it has one day of democracy and 364 days of lobbying in an election year and 365 days of lobbying in others...it is not really a democracy but a lobby-o-cracy..."heres some cash, fuck the bees"...

you will spend billions on hybradising imported bees to local environments and these bees will die off in droves and in time you will get a better ROI on manual work...then the damage will outweigh the lobby money and you will be forced to stop for like 10 years before the carence period for the chemicals you pumped expires and you can import bees again without throwing money out of the window...this is what happens when corruption is institutionalized and called "lobbying"...

Bladewire 02-19-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22418867)
I have commercial greenhouses and use been for pollination...let me tell you this: you are SO fucked when you kill off the bees...you will be forced to spend billions on manual pollination and it is a BITCH...a B I T C H...

There's already a solution we've created, here in America, with AI , robotics & cloud intelligence. We call the micro robots "New Bees"




Acepimp 02-19-2019 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22418811)
stay out of Venezuela politics .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So you want the poor citizens of Venezuela ruled by a tyrant who keeps them poor??? They are so poor they are eating stray dogs, or dumping garbage bags out to search for food, then selling the used garbage bags! WTF is wrong with you socialist-commie imbeciles??

jsmih 02-19-2019 07:52 PM

" Of the 18 states where the approvals were granted for sorghum and cotton crops, 12 have been given the approvals for at least four consecutive years for the same "emergency." "


If this has been happening for at least 4 years, it's more than Trump's fault. Doesn't make it any less of a terrible set of decisions, just more people to blame.

BaldBastard 02-19-2019 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22418809)
As Acepimp pointed out..



Mark, what is this? Do as I say not as I do? How come we never see you criticizing your butt boy Trudeau ?

see this is where you all get to eat your own words

https://www.rt.com/business/424129-n...-oil-drilling/

So the only country with a 100% free trade deal with china, just told all the oil and gas companies to fuck off and get out, and they did that because its important to protect the environment for this and future generations. No some greedy fuck billionaire

I brought into a gold mine in NZ like a real one , small claim, the lazy fuck that was going to run it just grew pot, which ok he's a mate, 5 acres of shit scrub with a small stream though it that has gold. Turned out that shit scrub is a local plant called manuka, we have a local bee farmer paying us 4k a month , just to run his bees there.

Chinese are the biggest health nuts of all, they pay more than anyone for pure and natural

2MuchMark 02-19-2019 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 22418759)
LOL @ foreigners meddling in US politics.

Say hello to Justin Trudeau, the world's newest oil executive

The Canadian prime minister presents himself as a climate hero. By promising to nationalise the Kinder Morgan pipeline, he reveals his true self

If Trump was a progressive lefty beta-cuck, I suspect Mark wouldn't be complaining :1orglaugh

LOL at the weak minded Acepimp trying to change the subject, again, like he usually does, when he can't argue back. And for the record, yes Trudeau's environmental policy is shit. But nice try weakling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22418809)
Mark, what is this? Do as I say not as I do? How come we never see you criticizing your butt boy Trudeau ?

Why change the subject? If Trudeau's policy sucks balls its ok if Trumps does too? Is that your only argument? LOL poor you.

kane 02-19-2019 10:59 PM

Their position on the environment is one my biggest problems with the Republican party.

You can't drink or breathe profits.

pimpmaster9000 02-20-2019 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 22418925)
There's already a solution we've created, here in America, with AI , robotics & cloud intelligence. We call the micro robots "New Bees"




:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it costs me 200$ to pollinate just 1000m2 just for a couple of weeks just one time with natural normal bees...one hive can do this in 7-8 weeks...so just to pollinate tiny shit hole serbia with the cheapest possible natural method would cost 20 billion$ for just one season...the USA is like 100x the size of serbia so 2 trillion $/year would be the cost of pollination provided you could get enough bees, and you can not...

your robot bee thing is a fantasy...you simply can not produce enough and you are decades away from this tech...robot bees will never be a thing because bees are a part of the food chain...it is like saying you will make mechanical plants...

parts of china are already pollinating manually...it is back breaking work and only the more expensive crops get pollinated...this in turn has devastating effects on the food chain because the non commercial plants die away and this topples the jenga tower even more...

RedFred 02-20-2019 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimike (Post 22418847)
who cares

Apparently not low IQ Trump cultist sociopaths.

2MuchMark 02-20-2019 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22419276)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it costs me 200$ to pollinate just 1000m2 just for a couple of weeks just one time with natural normal bees...one hive can do this in 7-8 weeks....

You know your bee stuff! That's so cool! :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 02-20-2019 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 22419341)
You know your bee stuff! That's so cool! :thumbsup

I have tomato flower honey...I do not take it from the bees because I do not have a suit and I am afraid to open the box...I just leave them alone...they do a good job...

2MuchMark 02-20-2019 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22419347)
I have tomato flower honey...I do not take it from the bees because I do not have a suit and I am afraid to open the box...I just leave them alone...they do a good job...

That's pretty cool. I don't know anyone else who does that. I'm afraid of bees myself but never hurt them. This spring I hope to put some plants in our garden to attract bees.


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