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brassmonkey 06-20-2019 12:46 AM

Iran shoots down American drone in international airspace
 
In a major provocation, Iran shot down an unarmed and unmanned U.S. Navy MQ-4C Triton drone while it was flying in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz Thursday, a U.S. official told ABC News.

The incident is sure to trigger serious discussions within the Trump administration about how to respond to a direct attack on a U.S. military asset that goes beyond recent attacks in the Middle East that the U.S. has blamed on Iran.

The U.S. Navy MQ-4C Triton was shot down by an Iranian surface to air missile while the reconnaissance drone was flying in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday, a U.S. official told ABC News.

Earlier, Iranian state media had quoted Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as saying it had downed a Global Hawk drone when it entered Iranian airspace near the Kouhmobarak district north of the Strait of Hormuz.

The MQ-4C Triton is an unarmed surveillance aircraft powered by a jet engine, which is capable of operating at altitudes as high as 60,000 feet. It is the Navy's version of the reconnaissance aircraft that the Air Force calls the RQ-4 Global Hawk.

The incident is not the first time in recent days that Iran has targeted an American drone off its coast.

Last Thursday, Iran attempted to shoot down an MQ-9 Reaper that was surveilling the attack on one of two tankers in the Gulf of Oman. The United States has blamed Iran for being responsible for the attacks on the two tankers -- a claim Iran has denied.

"According to our assessment, a modified Iranian SA-7 surface-to-air missile attempted to shoot down a U.S. MQ-9, at 6:45 a.m. local time, June 13, over the Gulf of Oman, to disrupt surveillance of the IRGC attack on the M/T Kokuka Courageous," CENTCOM spokesperson Lt. Col. Earl Brown said in a statement to ABC News on Saturday.

"Subsequent analysis indicates that this was a likely attempt to shoot down or otherwise disrupt the MQ-9 surveillance of the IRGC attack on the M/T Kokuka Courageous," Brown said.

In early May, the Pentagon rushed the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln and a B-52 bomber task force to the Middle East to deter possible attacks by Iran or Iranian-backed groups on U.S. forces and U.S. interests in the region.

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pimpmaster9000 06-20-2019 01:04 AM

so the false flag tanker attack did not work so they are now false flagging an attack on a drone...

BaldBastard 06-20-2019 01:22 AM

Whats the cost of Trumps plan costing you now.. 5 Billion a day? up from a Billion a day last month.

Obama gave Iran back their own money and got 5 years of peace, hehe.

..But that was BADDDDDD.

Iran is spinning up Nuke fuel, its more than likely they have more than a dozen ballistic missiles that can hit anywhere in the USA

directfiesta 06-20-2019 05:45 AM

In other news :

US Airforce let's Iranian drone fly over the gulf of Mexico of the coast of Florida .....

alexistexasass 06-20-2019 05:51 AM

In other old news:
Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai, via Bandar Abbas, that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed, and all 290 people on board, including 66 children, were killed.

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adultinnovation 06-20-2019 07:44 AM

In 1996, the governments of the United States and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice which included the statement "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident..." As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it still agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis, amounting to $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.


$200,000?.. pretty cheap..

celandina 06-20-2019 08:56 AM

International airspace ??? Hormuz is only 30 + miles wide....half of it are Iranian waters....so lets do not split hair...what was the drone doing there ?? Checking on fishing stocks ?:321GFY

pimpmaster9000 06-20-2019 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 22487406)
In other news :

US Airforce let's Iranian drone fly over the gulf of Mexico of the coast of Florida .....

I wrote this song about US drones in other peoples shit


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crockett 06-20-2019 10:24 AM

Congrats Republicans for making America less safe. Because Ttump lies multiple time a day no one trusts anything he says. Because Bush lied about WMD no one believes US Intel. Because Trump claims US Intel about Russia attacking the US id fake news, no one believes anything he says..

Congrats Republicans and Red Hat you have given Iran impunity and they are acting on it .


Lying matters...

brassmonkey 06-20-2019 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 22487543)
Congrats Republicans for making America less safe. Because Ttump lies multiple time a day no one trusts anything he says. Because Bush lied about WMD no one believes US Intel. Because Trump claims US Intel about Russia attacking the US id fake news, no one believes anything he says..

Congrats Republicans and Red Hat you have given Iran impunity and they are acting on it .


Lying matters...

do you know what proxy war is? they have been doing it for decades. the cold war was the major deal.

KyleC 06-20-2019 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexistexasass (Post 22487409)
In other old news:
Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai, via Bandar Abbas, that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed, and all 290 people on board, including 66 children, were killed.

[Go Fuck Yourself]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655"[/GFY]

I know. Pretty awesome right? Go Navy!

KyleC 06-20-2019 10:51 AM

**We paid them over 130 million for downing their jet btw.
How much money has Iran paid us for their violence?

baddog 06-20-2019 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22487338)
so the false flag tanker attack did not work so they are now false flagging an attack on a drone...

Iran admitted it.

bronco67 06-20-2019 04:24 PM

This is kind of scary considering Moe, Larry and Curly are making the decisions on this situation. I'm talking about Pompeo, Bolton and Trump. I'll let you figure out which one is Curly.

They're pushing for war and have no idea about the gravity of a war with a country that is not Iraq. Thousands (or millions) could die over some chest thumping because we don't have cool, smart heads assessing the situation.

A drone shootdown, whether accidental or intentional is not worth spending many dollars and lives over something that can be de-escalated with skilled statesmen and women...which team Trump is in short supply of. Actually they have no real statesmen. Pompeo is our top diplomat? Have you listened to him interact with other human beings? He's the last fucking guy who should be dealing with nuanced matters like this. Bolton is just pure fucking lizard brain. And Trump's lizard brain has it's own lizard brain. Not the type of guys you want behind the wheel on such a treacherous road.

Sarn 06-20-2019 11:24 PM

It expensive drone, not so easily shot down such drone

On 20 June 2019, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps shot down an MQ-4C drone in the Strait of Hormuz near Kuhmobarak in Iran's southern province of Hormozgan. Iran claimed it was in their airspace, while the US claimed it was in international airspace. An anonymous U.S. official initially claimed it was an MQ-4C Triton drone, but the U.S. Central Command later confirmed it was an RQ-4A drone assigned to the Navy's Broad Area Maritime Surveillance (BAMS) program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northr..._down_of_drone


Unit cost:
US$131.4 M (FY13)
US$222.7 M (with R&D)

huey 06-20-2019 11:30 PM

The constant state needs a war. Trump is doing a good job not to bite yet.


If he ties to negotiate the left will call him weak lol.

baddog 06-20-2019 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22487482)
International airspace ??? Hormuz is only 30 + miles wide

How far do you think International Airspace extends?

pimpmaster9000 06-21-2019 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22487560)
Iran admitted it.

a broadly accurate principle in life: "if the USA says something happened, it probably did not"

this is because you guys heavily rely on war and you can not afford peace...for example "saddam had WMD"...it is what you do...we call it "doing a USA"...

so even if I was wrong, 9/10 I will be right just because of the nature of americans and their government...you are the cancer of the earth :2 cents::thumbsup

celandina 06-21-2019 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 22487855)
How far do you think International Airspace extends?

Actually there is NO International airpsace over the strait. 1/2 is claimed by Iran and the other half by UAE...

...but there also is:

"An Air Defense Identification Zone, which extends approximately 200 miles off coast."

Quote:

An air defense identification zone (ADIZ) is airspace over land or water in which the identification, location, and control of civil aircraft is performed in the interest of national security. They may extend beyond a country's territory to give the country more time to respond to possibly hostile aircraft.
So when USA and other have it why not Iran? "What is good for the goose should be good for the gander".

No go and cry me a river !

huey 06-21-2019 07:44 AM

Trump called off retaliatory strike. Smart.

celandina 06-22-2019 07:38 AM

I guess it fell into some sort of " international" land :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 06-22-2019 08:09 AM

Turns out as I said before the drone wasn't in international airspace. Also something pretty fucked up..

Iran claimed a US transport aircraft violated their airspace the same day but they didnt shoot it down..

Where they using soldiers lives as a means to provoke a war if Iran shot the plane down?

crockett 06-22-2019 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huey (Post 22488018)
Trump called off retaliatory strike. Smart.

Trump ordered the strike in the 1st place...

just a punk 06-22-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 22487330)
Iran shoots down American drone in international airspace

Shit happens.

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TheSquealer 06-22-2019 10:39 AM

crockett is so completely unhinged and full of hate for his own country, he's defending the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism and siding with one of the worlds most oppressive regimes against his own nation and people and interests.

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