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AmeliaG 07-16-2021 03:55 PM

Does my computer build seem like overkill?
 
Is this computer build overkill? Does it spec an unnecessary amount of RAM or whatever for maximum speed on media editing? Does this look like enough on the power supply? I welcome suggestions and recommendations.


CPU
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor

CPU Cooler
EK EK-AIO 240 D-RGB 66.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler

Motherboard
MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory
Crucial Ballistix 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
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Video Card
EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card

Case
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Light ATX Full Tower Case

Power Supply
Fractal Design Ion+ 860 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

RuFFCuTT 07-16-2021 04:12 PM

It does look a bit overkill, 64GB would be more than enough.

You could do with some more storage space too really for media editing unless you're using a NAS or something? Or plan to upload everything to the cloud but that could take some time.

Everything else looks good

luismartinez 07-16-2021 04:15 PM

Is it Overkill or what
 
Well, depending on how much memory you need it may be overkill. If you are processing videos and doing video editing then for a PC it seems like a workhorse! Good luck with the new machine I hope it brings you lots of sales and visibility.

OneHungLo 07-16-2021 04:21 PM

What are you using it for?

AmeliaG 07-16-2021 04:43 PM

This machine will be used for heavy Photoshop and likely some video editing. I'm happy to pay for anything which will speed the production process, especially for video, but not actively trying to throw dough out...

AmeliaG 07-16-2021 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RuFFCuTT (Post 22888638)
It does look a bit overkill, 64GB would be more than enough.

You could do with some more storage space too really for media editing unless you're using a NAS or something? Or plan to upload everything to the cloud but that could take some time.

Everything else looks good

Would you recommend bigger SSD, multiple drives, or ? for storage? I have approximately a gazillion external drives in a filing system with duplicates, but they are not the fastest to work off of course and I'm looking for max speed.

OneHungLo 07-16-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888660)
This machine will be used for heavy Photoshop and likely some video editing. I'm happy to pay for anything which will speed the production process, especially for video, but not actively trying to throw dough out...

Photoshop eats up the ram so you may end up wanting to up the ram.

This is what I have and it does the trick.

https://i.imgur.com/BaH4bCU.png

luismartinez 07-16-2021 04:58 PM

Nice setup
 
[QUOTE=OneHungLo;22888667]Photoshop eats up the ram so you may end up wanting to up the ram.

This is what I have and it does the trick.

Onehunglo that is a massive machine! And yes Photoshop and Premier eat up the mem

The Porn Nerd 07-16-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888663)
Would you recommend bigger SSD, multiple drives, or ? for storage? I have approximately a gazillion external drives in a filing system with duplicates, but they are not the fastest to work off of course and I'm looking for max speed.

I have the same (something like 50+ external HDs) so I got myself a machine with 1TB of SSD space.

Your setup seems great, very fast, but I would up the storage and possibly the video ram if you are doing 4K batch editing (many files).

:thumbsup

OneHungLo 07-16-2021 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by luismartinez (Post 22888674)
Onehunglo that is a massive machine! And yes Photoshop and Premier eat up the mem

They both do! And I'm actually considering adding some more ram on because believe it or not, PS still lags sometimes. That thing is a mfing resource hog.

Colmike9 07-16-2021 08:38 PM

I'd see if it's fast enough to play the original Crysis will all settings turned all the way up. :upsidedow

sandman! 07-16-2021 10:21 PM

I would add a 4tb ssd just for video editing or nvme drive so you have more space.

Besides that looks like a great machine.

k0nr4d 07-17-2021 12:42 AM

Your power supply is overkill. 550w with a higher efficiency would have been plenty. You don't need that much power unless you are running two video cards in SLI or something. You also bought the wrong ram (ideal would be DDR4-4000) and unless that's a 128gbyte kit it's probably not gonna run correctly in dual channel mode/xmp

AmeliaG 07-17-2021 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22888790)
Your power supply is overkill. 550w with a higher efficiency would have been plenty. You don't need that much power unless you are running two video cards in SLI or something. You also bought the wrong ram (ideal would be DDR4-4000) and unless that's a 128gbyte kit it's probably not gonna run correctly in dual channel mode/xmp


Thanks. That is interesting. What do you think of these RAM options?


Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX 128GB (4 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Black

Or 2 of

VENGEANCE® LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 4000MHz C18 Memory Kit - Black

Will the 4000 spec on the RAM make a lot of difference for non-gaming usages? With the chip shortage, 128 GB kits are hard to come by and a lil inflated. The RAM is probably the component I'm least decided on.

AmeliaG 07-17-2021 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 22888757)
I would add a 4tb ssd just for video editing or nvme drive so you have more space.

Besides that looks like a great machine.

Thanks. As a replacement for the drive I was thinking of or as a 2nd drive for data?

trevesty 07-17-2021 04:48 AM

I have fairly similar, but only 64GB of RAM and Intel i9 9th gen. I also have 4 1TB NVMe's, then a 6TB SATA.

I can encode a few videos in a couple minutes with 30 tabs open in Chrome and never notice it.. other than obviously knowing what's going on.

J. Falcon 07-17-2021 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 22888738)
I'd see if it's fast enough to play the original Crysis will all settings turned all the way up. :upsidedow

But can it run Crysis?

k0nr4d 07-17-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888805)
Thanks. That is interesting. What do you think of these RAM options?


Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX 128GB (4 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 2666MHz C16 Memory Kit - Black

Or 2 of

VENGEANCE® LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR4 DRAM 4000MHz C18 Memory Kit - Black

Will the 4000 spec on the RAM make a lot of difference for non-gaming usages? With the chip shortage, 128 GB kits are hard to come by and a lil inflated. The RAM is probably the component I'm least decided on.

3600 ram is OK, 4000 is ideal, 2666 is too slow for AMD RYZEN. Something liek a 5% performance difference I read between 3600 and 4000. You don't need 128gb of ram, 64 is probably overkill even.

The power supply get a 550 or 600 max, highest efficiency you can find (wiill be cheaper electric bills). Good brand name one.

sandman! 07-17-2021 07:31 AM

I would get a second one but you can also just upgrade your main drive won’t be a big performance difference.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888806)
Thanks. As a replacement for the drive I was thinking of or as a 2nd drive for data?


k0nr4d 07-17-2021 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 22888850)
I would get a second one but you can also just upgrade your main drive won’t be a big performance difference.

or 2x2tb ssd in software raid?

8pt-buck 07-17-2021 12:25 PM

You've already spent the money.
Personally, I think your setup is fantastic - Wish I had 128 on mine.

You've always been top notch and will continue to be top notch with that set-up.
That 'VENGEANCE" is insane no matter which one you chose!

Just kick on back and enjoy the power! - I'm jealous!

sandman! 07-17-2021 12:27 PM

Not a bad idea but ssds don’t fail often I only bother with raid on servers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22888859)
or 2x2tb ssd in software raid?


Jazzix 07-17-2021 02:34 PM

Damn nice rig ! except for the AMD processor

Cheaped out a little there.....

Colmike9 07-17-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22888831)
But can it run Crysis?

I've been trying to play it for 14 years :(

AmeliaG 07-17-2021 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzix (Post 22888931)
Damn nice rig ! except for the AMD processor

Cheaped out a little there.....

What do you like better for processor? I've read conflicting benchmark tests on whether the threadrippers are really faster for media production. Are you thinking those or something else?

Colmike9 07-17-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22888934)
What do you like better for processor? I've read conflicting benchmark tests on whether the threadrippers are really faster for media production. Are you thinking those or something else?

Once someone becomes an Intel fan, it's hard to get them back over to AMD lol

Jazzix 07-17-2021 03:02 PM

Intel all the way. If I was building a system like that it would be nothing but an I9

8pt-buck 07-17-2021 03:03 PM

Very smart folks in this thread ..

CurrentlySober 07-18-2021 02:29 AM

When its a system built for video editing and photoshop etc, I don't think overkill exists. :2 cents:

AmeliaG 07-18-2021 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22889064)
When its a system built for video editing and photoshop etc, I don't think overkill exists. :2 cents:

Thanks. Do you think I'd be better off with a mid-range Threadripper CPU?

AmeliaG 07-18-2021 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzix (Post 22888944)
Intel all the way. If I was building a system like that it would be nothing but an I9

I've got Intel machines now, but the i9 chips don't seem to benchmark that well against the AMD releases of the past two years or so. Is there a non-performance spec I should be factoring in?

pornmasta 07-18-2021 04:02 PM

The price of chips is too expensive now...
I would have waited...

trevesty 07-18-2021 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22889201)
I've got Intel machines now, but the i9 chips don't seem to benchmark that well against the AMD releases of the past two years or so. Is there a non-performance spec I should be factoring in?

I will never in my life need to process as much content as you do, so take the following with a big, massive, huge pile of salt. But my I9 9th gen does exactly what I intended for it to do.. which is to never be an issue or THE issue.

My PC runs extremely smoothly no matter what I'm doing - this monitor is always work, but my 4k monitor is where any video processing happens, gaming, etc. I have 48 tabs open right now on this monitor and just ran Apex on max settings (in 4K) with 90FPS.

But I'm an Intel guy. I will probably consider an AMD for my next build in 3-4 years because they HAVE caught up / passed Intel recently, but that also means their latest processors haven't been around long enough to get their ass whooped day in and day out to see if that performance maintains over time.. or if that processor itself maintains over time. Which is why I went Intel / I9 on my build. Maybe I'm losing some nanoseconds somewhere, but I'm confident it'll work for as long as I need it to.

If you do stick with the AMD, though, I would be extremely curious to see how it holds up over time.

CurrentlySober 07-19-2021 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22889200)
Thanks. Do you think I'd be better off with a mid-range Threadripper CPU?

I consider myself, in NO way an authority on high end professional video editing specs, but I DO know a hell of a lot about high end Gaming PCs. That's because I have built myself a 'state of the art' gaming PC in the past.

How I learnt about them, was mostly from the 'Linus Tech Tips' channel. Now I present to you 2 videos, approx a year old, relating to your editing build.

First video below is him building his 'no expense spared rig' piece by piece, and explaining his reasons and logic behind each component as he goes... I also add a second video, again, approx a year old, which discusses him upgrading from a 16 to 32 thread 'ThreadRipper' and his reasons for doing so...

I suggest watching these videos, or at least skipping through them. I've always found Linus to be very easy to understand, and that's basically what I did when it came to my gaming PC. I wanted the absolute best, but not the most absolutely expensive just for the sake of it. So I extrapolated the relevant info from Linus, found myself aware of some pitfalls and fallacies, and ended up with a machine that still works as well today as in 2019 when I built it, and can still give the latest games a good kicking at max settings :)

So I say listen to Linus. He's a GREAT starting point :)




CurrentlySober 07-19-2021 05:30 AM

Just to add, that when it comes to a gaming PC, you can easily reach a point of diminishing returns, such as RAM for example. 16GB is normally enough, 32GB the sweet spot, (cost VS performance) 64GB on the overkill side, and 128GB pointless as no 'game' on the market today, or even tomorrow, will benefit from that amount of RAM, or even be able to make use of it...

But when it comes to editing, I really dont think you can ever have 'Too Much' of anything :)

Alex BongaCash 07-19-2021 09:13 AM

You can decrease amount of RAM and buy additional m.2 storage for 256gb or 512gb to install your windows on it. If you keep it clean from other files - your PC will be thankful :winkwink:


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